Stitch's Great Escape - Height NOW 38''

[SteveUK]

Maybe they should have a maximum height restriction instead of a minimum? This should prevent anybody getting in who is old enough to see what a disgrace it is inside.
If a ride or attraction is a classic and is popular, I'm all for rehab - a bit of paint and a tidy up, but don't change things completely - why take the risk of losing the appeal of something that works fine as it is? In my opinion there are far more worhty targets for change around the place than AE. Anybody agree?

 

[CRO-Magnum]

Don't change the rules after the game has started!


Whether or not children are ready for a ride because of its intensity should be up to the parents, especially in this case where they have set a precedent. What is the height restriction on the sound show with Drew Carey at the studios? That ride bothers my children more because they aren't bolted down. However I have three children who absolutely loved SGE when we visited in December and have talked about nothing else in preparation for our return in February. Now, two of my children won't be admitted because they are 35" and 37" (ages 3 and 4). How exactly does Disney propose to explain to children they aren't allowed to enjoy something THEY'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED. What were they doing during the soft opening? Shouldn't this have been determined BEFORE the attraction opened to the general public? Thanks Disney! I'll make sure to direct my children to Guest Relations (a.k.a. Ghost Relations because they never do anything) to cry on their shoulders.

I've pretty much lost all hope for Disney. :hammer: .what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

 

[Thelazer]

All I can ask is that you do not get mad at the CM's at the attraction. Those poor folks did not make the rule, they only have to enforce it. Make sure your voice is heard at city hall. Follow up with a written complaint as well as a photo of your kids with a sad look on there face. Tell them that you no longer belive in Disney magic. Send a copy to Einser.

 

[dxwwf3]

In my opinion there are far more worhty targets for change around the place than AE. Anybody agree?

Uh yeah, I agree :lol:

 

[HennieBogan1966]

Geez Cro, sorry to hear that all hope is lost for you. I'm also sorry that SGE is apparently the ONLY ride that your children will ride or can ride I guess. Things change. Sometimes for the better. The changes in this case were made due to some input from guests, and decision-making on the part of mgmt. with the parks. For better or worse, at least the made a decision.

Hopefully, you'll be able to find SOMETHING to do at the BEST VACATION DESTINATION ON THE PLANET EARTH, WDW!!!

 

[dxwwf3]

Well I certainly agree with Cro on the fact that it's tough to open something for a while and then suddenly change the height requirement. And since every child takes things differently, it certainly isn't fair to the kids that did see SGE and actually liked it. I think Cro has a very legitimate beef. But I also think that Disney is doing the right thing in making the requirement higher (for the time being until they change the show). I can DEFINATELY see why Cro's kids would be upset and disapointed. What else would anyone expect? They should be.

 

[HennieBogan1966]

But if Disney did nothing you would have a much larger group that would say, "that's too intense for my kids!!! Tone it down!!! Put a sign up!! (which they do).

No matter the subject, there will always be detractors when it comes to Disney. I agree they make mistakes, but that's because the people that run the company are no different than you and I. They're human. Well, except for the Mouse. You know he's REALLY the one running things right?!!! Big ears, white gloves.

Oh wait, that's Michael Jackson. Sorry about that one.


hehe

 

[SteveUK]

I completely understand why CRO is upset and feels that the children will be disappointed. But surely people can see the bigger picture and understand that these restrictions and decisions are made for a reason. Management spend thousands of dollars on this stuff, rules are made for a legitimate and valid reason regarding the saftey, comfort and wellbeing of guests. I'm sure that Disney would not restrict an attraction to somebody unless they felt they were acting in the best interests of the majority of their customers.

I agree that maybe this limit could have been set before opening the attraction, but obvioulsy something has arisen since opening to make them re-think things.

Whilst I understand why people may be upset at these restrictions, I personally take the view that I am happy that clearly a lot of thought and decision making goes into the safety and wellbeing of guests. That must be better than not enough attention to safety?

 

[dxwwf3]

But if Disney did nothing you would have a much larger group that would say, "that's too intense for my kids!!! Tone it down!!! Put a sign up!! (which they do).

You're preaching to the converted. Remember I said that I think Disney is doing the right thing. But I also think that you have to see Cro's point. I think it is a very vaild point. And remember they are just kids. They probably don't understand why they can't see SGE this next trip, all they know is it isn't fair to them.

You would think that Disney would have gotten enough of a negative response to SGE in the previews to where they would have never offically opened, but that didn't happen for some reason. Kudos to Disney for trying to fix the problem though.

 

[HennieBogan1966]

I'm not really disagreeing with you as much as I am saying that Disney is hooked either way they go. And people who WANT to find fault, will find it no matter HOW SMALL the issue. One ride does NOT a theme park make. I have an 8 yo daughter, who has been there. And even if she wanted to ride it and didn't meet the requirements of a given ride, I wouldn't have any problems explaining that to her. EVEN IF she had ridden it the last time.

 

[Bluewaves]

I want to know what in the world does Stich have to do with tomorrowland anyway???? I wish he would just go away and fall into obscurity like other minor Disney Characters and stay out of the parks. I wish someone would think up an original attration and stop all the this junk of using a so so movie and throwing it into what was at least a halfway decent attraction, not that it really held my interest anyway but at least it was original. At least its not as bad as California where I heard they shut down half of tommorland land to refurb it. I have an idea how bout a retro tomorrowland, one where the rides are from the 50's and they show how life would be like say in 2000 now that would be interesting, the only ride I do in tomorrowland is space mountain anyway and carousel if its open and timekeeper if its opened, otherwise I start my day at the other side of the park , finish at space mountain and get out and spend as little time as possible in tomorrowland, not to mention its always just hotter than the place down below with no trees and no shade, some tomorrow , huh?

 

[Pixie Duster]

This is the right decision. Period.

 

[Ringo8n24]

I am a little disappointed because my daughter would have made the old height requirement by the fall. She will never make 38 inches by then. She's a little thing for her age, but she loves the dark rides that a lot of older kids do not. Thank goodness she will not miss the visit to SGE since she has not been yet. It was tough enough explaining IASW's closure to her this past September.

 

[wardrobeguy]

Holy crap don't say that! Surely it won't get THAT bad.

Guess I'll find out this weekend when I experience Stitch for the first time... from what I've read just about anywhere and heard from friends I am not hopeful that it's too much fun. About the only good thing I've heard about it is the complexity of the Stitch Audioanimatronic.

Hopefully it doesn't get as bad as the Journey Into Imagination debacle... Stitch would have to be quite a stinker if it was... Surely some people are enjoying this attraction?

 

[fillerup]

Guess I'm really confused about a height requirement for SRRAE (Stitch's Really Really Awful Escape).

Wouldn't the only justification for height minimums be in relation to the shoulder/neck/head contraption? Seems to me this would have been settled in the design phase. Actually way back in the days of AE.

Therefore, this is really an attempt at an age minimum disguised as something else. So just put in an age minimum - and parents are on the honor system.

Or maybe I'm missing something.

Anyway, the shoulder restraints could be ditched altogether - since their only purpose now is to prevent people from bolting thru the exits to a more productive use of park time, like standing in the August sun until you cook.

 

[dxwwf3]

Guess I'm really confused about a height requirement for SRRAE (Stitch's Really Really Awful Escape).

Wouldn't the only justification for height minimums be in relation to the shoulder/neck/head contraption? Seems to me this would have been settled in the design phase. Actually way back in the days of AE.

Therefore, this is really an attempt at an age minimum disguised as something else. So just put in an age minimum - and parents are on the honor system.

Or maybe I'm missing something.

Anyway, the shoulder restraints could be ditched altogether - since their only purpose now is to prevent people from bolting thru the exits to a more productive use of park time, like standing in the August sun until you cook.

Yes I believe that the height requirement is more of a age minimum system, but a child does need to be of a certain height to see the show properly and they need to be big enough to where the restraints shouldn't bother them.

But no the shoulder restraints cannot be ditched because they contain alot of major effects and they also provide the binural sound. That's been their main purpose ever since AE, not keeping people in the seats.

 

[CRO-Magnum]

But if Disney did nothing you would have a much larger group that would say, "that's too intense for my kids!!! Tone it down!!! Put a sign up!! (which they do).

Part of the problem is societal in that people are always looking for someone else to blame and someone else to look out for their interests. I, however, take full responsibility for my actions as well as those of my children and our collective good and bad decisions. So if there is a warning sign, and there is, and I choose to ignore it, then the problem is mine. However perhaps I am not the norm and therefore Disney must react to society's demand for a big brother able to prevent us from making mistakes.

My reaction was 100% based on the emotions of my children. They'll get over it of course, but I try to see the world through the eyes of others. I already spend a significant amount of time explaining to my two youngest why they cannot ride RNR, Space Mountain, and others that their big sister can. It was an accomplishment for them to actually meet a height requirement. However we have reviewed the facts and although disappointed to the point of tears, they accept that Stitch will be off the agenda for February and the near future. Once again, where is the height limit on Sounds Dangerous at MGM? Warning signs, yes. Height restriction, no. Perhaps Disney should charge entrance fees based on height like Universal instead of age since the limiting factor is, indeed, height and not age. (For those who don't know, as a cast member it was explained to me the Disney's philosophy on charging less for children was that they are able to enjoy less of the show because their size precludes them from enjoying all the attractions; the same reason for why infants/toddlers are free).

I excuse quickly and easily when an invidivual makes a mistake. To err is human and I make my share of goofs. However, I cannot excuse corporate mistakes and missteps because their actions do not reflect the decisions of one person. I do not believe that Disney sets height restrictions lightly, and multiple people were involved in the discussion. Those people had every opportunity to garner feedback from pre-opening test runs. When in doubt it is ALWAYS best to err on the conservative side. Set the height at 40" and work down from there based on feedback rather than up.

Mistake made. Impact resolved. Case closed.

...but I'm still disappointed...

 

[Stitchfan712]

This SGE bashfest is ridiculous.

It's not that bad of an attraction. And I have to assume a few of you are bashing it because it's now popular to do so.


Yeah, it could use a better storyline. But it's not a "disagrace" or a "waste of space" and all these other terms you guys are using to label it. It's sad reading this...because it seems that if Disney rehabbed SGE you all wouldn't give it a second chance, whatwith the comments about tearing it out and putting a new attraction in its place.


IF disney rehabbed it, would you honestly give it another chance? OR is it just too easy to bash it to hell and think nothing of it? I'm also insulted by the comments that the only people who can like this attraction are those who are too innocent or "not smart enough" to see that it's a bad attraction.

I like SGE. I guess I'm dumb and innocent at 20 years old. :brick:



-A proud SGE supporter.

 

[Stitchfan712]

I want to know what in the world does Stich have to do with tomorrowland anyway???? I wish he would just go away and fall into obscurity like other minor Disney Characters and stay out of the parks. I wish someone would think up an original attration and stop all the this junk of using a so so movie and throwing it into what was at least a halfway decent attraction, not that it really held my interest anyway but at least it was original. At least its not as bad as California where I heard they shut down half of tommorland land to refurb it. I have an idea how bout a retro tomorrowland, one where the rides are from the 50's and they show how life would be like say in 2000 now that would be interesting, the only ride I do in tomorrowland is space mountain anyway and carousel if its open and timekeeper if its opened, otherwise I start my day at the other side of the park , finish at space mountain and get out and spend as little time as possible in tomorrowland, not to mention its always just hotter than the place down below with no trees and no shade, some tomorrow , huh?

That's your opinion.

Mine is that Lilo and Stitch was one of the most deeply moving films to have been created in Disney's recent history. My opinion is that Lilo and Stitch surpasses all of the renaissance movies of the early 1990s in terms of emotional impact. It is my opinion that Stitch is one of the greatest characters to come out of Disney in a long time, and that character's depth has connected with me on a very personal level.

Stitch is a character that is dear to me. It is my opinion that his presence at the parks is a good thing, and it is my opinion that he should remain.

It is my opinion, that just because you have a problem with Stitch, doesn't mean that he has no right to be in the parks or is somehow "destroying" your Disney experience. Don't like him? Fine. I don't like pooh. But I don't go around telling the whole of WDW magic that "pooh is destroying WDW and I wish he'd just go away into obscurity".

I may not like pooh. But there are those that do. And pooh's little corner in WDW isn't going to ruin my vacation, it's not going to ruin WDW, it's not going to make me ________ and moan on every vacation. I dont like pooh, so I'll avoid his area. That simple.

Don't like Stitch? Do the same. But allow us who LOVE him to be happy with his presence in the parks. Stitch is one of the greatest things to come out of Disney in a long time. That, is MY opinion, and it counts as much as yours.



And in regards to Tomorrowland at DLR, that land is in sad, sorry need of an update. It's a ghost town. But the closures are for very good reason. Let me ask you what would ruin your day at DLR the most: Not getting to ride Space Mountain, or riding a space mountain that is unsafe for guests and possibly getting injured or worse during your ride?

I think we can tolerate a rehab for the safety of guests. The track in space mountain was becoming increasingly unsafe. It needed a complete replacement. I'd rather wait for that to finish than have guests riding an unsafe ride and have another disaster on our hands. Wouldn't you agree?

Aside from Space, Buzz Lightyear will be a great addition to that tomorrowland because it'll actually bring some life there again. But it's not enough. Matt knows this, Imagineering knows this, and they're working on it. Give them a chance to make Tomorrowland great again, right now it's in sad shape. You can thank Pressler and Harris for that.

Oh, and yes, I would be 100% in favor of an SGE clone being installed where Mission to Mars used to be: Redd Rocket's. But to do so would be a massive undertaking and I doubt they'd use that building. I'd be in favor of an entirely new idea for a Stitch show at DLR. I think that park could benefit from a Stitch attraction, so long as it is given the budget and story that it needs to be a success.

More than likely though, if something like that happens, it won't be Tomorrowland that gets it. It'll be DCA.

 

[dxwwf3]

This SGE bashfest is ridiculous.

It's not that bad of an attraction. And I have to assume a few of you are bashing it because it's now popular to do so.


Yeah, it could use a better storyline. But it's not a "disagrace" or a "waste of space" and all these other terms you guys are using to label it. It's sad reading this...because it seems that if Disney rehabbed SGE you all wouldn't give it a second chance, whatwith the comments about tearing it out and putting a new attraction in its place.


IF disney rehabbed it, would you honestly give it another chance? OR is it just too easy to bash it to hell and think nothing of it? I'm also insulted by the comments that the only people who can like this attraction are those who are too innocent or "not smart enough" to see that it's a bad attraction.

I like SGE. I guess I'm dumb and innocent at 20 years old. :brick:



-A proud SGE supporter.

Just remember that as you said in your post after this one, "That's your opinion". You aren't the only one that likes SGE and you know that, so don't try and make it seems like you are alone on this quest to make SGE a classic attraction :lol: But, this is a love it or hate it attraction, much like the attraction that came before it. If I replied back in this manner everytime someone talked bad about AE, then nobody would take me seriously. You can have good discussions on this topic, but once that is over you have to be able to accept the other person's opinion. Don't get so freaking worked up about it :lol:

Some people thought that the adult nature of AE was a "disgrace" to the Magic Kingdom. I didn't agree with them, but I also saw where they were coming from. And I think you need to try and do the same thing here. Some people hate SGE with a passion. And the sooner you accept that the better.

You do make great points in other posts and you definately know what you are talking about, but if this post was the first time someone read something you had written, then they would probably think that you are a "dumb and innocent 20 year old". :wave: