Star Wars themed land announced for Disneyland

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I wish they'd never acquired Marvel and Star Wars. These attraction concepts are just awful and further inhibiting WDI's ability to create original attractions that aren't based on movies. An Iron Man screen ride in Tomorrowland. Ginormous Carousel Theater building becomes Star Wars and Marvel meet and greet. An entire land in Disneyland dedicated to Star Wars next to the Rivers of America. I try to be optimistic. I really do. I realize these things have significant fanbases and are profitable (and why should I care about that anyway?). But I just think it all sounds ******* stupid.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I wish they'd never acquired Marvel and Star Wars. These attraction concepts are just awful and further inhibiting WDI's ability to create original attractions that aren't based on movies. An Iron Man screen ride in Tomorrowland. Ginormous Carousel Theater building becomes Star Wars and Marvel meet and greet. An entire land in Disneyland dedicated to Star Wars next to the Rivers of America. I try to be optimistic. I really do. I realize these things have significant fanbases and are profitable (and why should I care about that anyway?). But I just think it all sounds ******* stupid.

A-freaking-men.

 

[Mouse Trap]

I wish they'd never acquired Marvel and Star Wars. These attraction concepts are just awful and further inhibiting WDI's ability to create original attractions that aren't based on movies. An Iron Man screen ride in Tomorrowland. Ginormous Carousel Theater building becomes Star Wars and Marvel meet and greet. An entire land in Disneyland dedicated to Star Wars next to the Rivers of America. I try to be optimistic. I really do. I realize these things have significant fanbases and are profitable (and why should I care about that anyway?). But I just think it all sounds ******* stupid.

If it wasn't Star Wars or Marvel, it would be another movie IP. You can thank your fellow humankind for that one. The masses show up for movies based on comics, books, etc... Not for original concept anymore. Same with theme parks. Look what Potter did. Don't blame Disney, blame the billions of people who show up to movies and theme parks based on other men's ideas.

Hopefully this is only a cycle of society.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Don't blame Disney, blame the billions of people who show up to movies and theme parks based on other men's ideas.

Disney isn't being held at gunpoint.

 

[1023]

I don't get the outrage. I would understand the feeling of loss if TSI, RoA, and the associated attractions were removed entirely. I just can't reconnect with the outrage I had when I found out about this.

I'll say it again, there is no reason to worry about other IPs in the park. They are already there and nearly everywhere you look. HM, PoTC, IASW, Matterhorn, SM, TM, Autopia, and maybe a couple others are really the only originals. The Fantasyland dark rides are all other's IPs. I just don't get it.

There are bigger fish to fry. Just wait until they announce the real plans for Tomorrowland.

*1023*

 

[FigmentForver96]

I don't get the outrage. I would understand the feeling of loss if TSI, RoA, and the associated attractions were removed entirely. I just can't reconnect with the outrage I had when I found out about this.

I'll say it again, there is no reason to worry about other IPs in the park. They are already there and nearly everywhere you look. HM, PoTC, IASW, Matterhorn, SM, TM, Autopia, and maybe a couple others are really the only originals. The Fantasyland dark rides are all other's IPs. I just don't get it.

There are bigger fish to fry. Just wait until they announce the real plans for Tomorrowland.

*1023*

Right, I love Disneyland I mean I LOVE IT. Yet I want to see new and innovative things and the truth is the age of attractions based on non IPs is over. We see some here and there but for the most part it is done. People want to see their favorite IPs in the parks. That's the thing that is popular now and it would be stupid for disney to not continue to cater to the bigger audience. The river is not my first choice, but like you said it is not the entire river.

Btw how solid are those Tomorrowland plans??? If you don't mine the question...

 

[phillip sugarman]

The real plans for Tomorrowland probably wont happen until after Star Wars Land is built even than it could just end up being a land with Marvel and more Star Wars lol. The concept of Tomorrowland is slowly fading away they might as well just rename the land now and give up on the concept.

 

[FigmentForver96]

The real plans for Tomorrowland probably wont happen until after Star Wars Land is built even than it could just end up being a land with Marvel and more Star Wars lol. The concept of Tomorrowland is slowly fading away they might as well just rename the land now and give up on the concept.

I wouldn't give up on the concept. The idea fades because Disney doesn't want to spend money to keep it updated.

If Marvel is going in DCA like some insiders are suggesting then maybe we can get some different stuff for Tomorrowland.

 

[phillip sugarman]

Marvel will likely be going everywhere because that is Disney cash machine right now along with Star Wars and Frozen. You have seen that Disney is putting Frozen everywhere in both Disneyland and California Adventure including getting rid of the Aladdin broadway show for more Frozen. I also wouldnt be surprised if the Fantasyland expansion that Micechat talked about that was close to getting greenlighted had something to do with Frozen too. Same thing with Marvel it is rumored for a third park along with getting a new land in California Adventure. Also they could retheme Star Tours to the Iron Man Experience in Tomorrowland once Star Wars Land is completed. Disney is showing that they could care less about putting stuff in the parks that fits. They only care about finding ways to promote their properties in the parks so they can make more money.

 

[PrincessJenn5795]

If they essentially turn it into a Marvel Land there will a lot of angry Disneyland fans.

There will be a lot of angry Disneyland fans no matter what changes they make. There are always a lot of very angry people every time Disney announces any change. If Disney paid attention to every fan outrage there would never be any changes or expansions ever.

Personally, my philosophy is that it is better to wait until I see the finished product before deciding if I love, hate, or am indifferent to whatever changes are made. Mostly, I have been pleased with the things Disney has done at the parks over the past few years. I think the parks should continue to change and grow, which is why I get frustrated when areas like Tomorrowland get old and stagnant. I am actually really excited for the new Star Wars land, and really hope they decide to do a major Tomorrowland overhaul soon. While adding a lot of Marvel stuff to Tomorrowland wouldn't be my first choice, it could be done in a cool way and just about anything would be better than what is is there now.

 

[Phroobar]

We all dread the worst when Disney creates something new but for the most part it comes out really great. I guess we are still gun shy from DCA 1.0.

 

[Sage of Time]

Disneyland is going to be fundamentally changed because of Star Wars and not because of an addition, but because what is done to accommodate and change the park for the addition. This isn't good.

 

[Mouse Trap]

Disney isn't being held at gunpoint.

Essentially they are. And you can find the men holding the guns on Wall Street.

 

[Phroobar]

Disneyland is going to be fundamentally changed because of Star Wars and not because of an addition, but because what is done to accommodate and change the park for the addition. This isn't good.

Why is that bad? Star Wars has been part of Disneyland for half it's history. Disneyland is getting more capacity and more eticket rides. The train will still run around Disneyland. The Mark Twain will still go around TSI. The little wild life scenes will still be there. Part of TSI that can't be accessed anyway will be gone but the rest of the island might be upgraded to be more interesting instead of just a bunch of 50s era rock caves. Once this new section is open, they could close TL for a complete redo. What exactly are we losing?

Sometimes change is good.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Why is that bad? Star Wars has been part of Disneyland for half it's history. Disneyland is getting more capacity and more eticket rides. The train will still run around Disneyland. The Mark Twain will still go around TSI. The little wild life scenes will still be there. Part of TSI that can't be accessed anyway will be gone but the rest of the island might be upgraded to be more interesting instead of just a bunch of 50s era rock caves. Once this new section is open, they could close TL for a complete redo. What exactly are we losing?

Sometimes change is good.

But why is this change good when there were several iterations without such hacking away at the park?

 

[Phroobar]

A whole separate area that was never part of the park is better than removing current attractions and themeing. How many people still complain about the removal of ATIS? In reality, that ride would be a ghost town today except on heavy days when guests have no other choice but to ride it.

 

[dweezil78]

I think at this point anything is a better fit for Disneyland. The crowds are becoming so ridiculously thick there and a 14 acre expansion like Star Wars Land will hopefully give the congestion a good deal of relief. By 1pm, the place is always crammed while DCA is wide open and airy almost any time of the day. DCA is fine as it is for a while, bring on the Disneyland expansion!!!

 

[Sage of Time]

What exactly are we losing?

Sometimes change is good.

Sightlines for the Rivers of America and the illusion of thematic coherency. Altering Disneyland's thematic approach to genre-based lands to franchise based lands is a dangerous precedence.

 

[dweezil78]

Sightlines for the Rivers of America and the illusion of thematic coherency. Altering Disneyland's thematic approach to genre-based lands to franchise based lands is a dangerous precedence.

Ok three things. 1) I love and worship Disneyland as much as anyone around here, but let's all get real and remind ourselves, it's still just a theme park.

2) Just because the land is franchise based doesn't mean it will function or look any differently than a genre-based land. The universe of Star Wars is vast and provides a creative outlet for many different locales and experiences. Way moreso than a land dedicated to Cars or even Harry Potter. Within the Star Wars universe you have forests, deserts, cities floating in the sky, cities floating in the water, and so on. It runs deeper than any other franchise I can think of and is a genre onto itself.

3) Pop-culture and modern tastes have changes so so much since 1955. It was a simpler time then -- a time when people were pumped on the wild west and visiting the moon seemed like fiction. Like it or not, that's not the world we live in today and to force Disneyland to adhere to the blueprint that was established from what was popular in the 50s would be a huge disservice to the park and the people that come to visit it.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Neither you nor I know what guests will and won't like. If Disney actually cared about Tomorrowland's original concept and came up with something, maybe we'd find out. But, as long as we have people out there who don't care and settle for things that don't fit like Star Wars and Marvel, Disney will continue to not care.

Do you honestly believe that audiences today care about "the future" as a topic as much or more than they care about Star Wars or Marvel?