We should do it at Epcot and have a few drinks so everybody can blame it on "drunkeytown"
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News Star Wars Galaxy's Edge opening day reports - Disney's Hollywood Studios
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ChrisFL
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My other thoughts from visiting briefly yesterday.
I only ever saw two stormtroopers walking around, didn't see Chewie or Kylo Ren walking around. The Ronto wrap was good but not incredible IMO. Blue milk was very good though. I didn't try the green milk, but next time I plan to have the blue milk with rum.
There was queues to get into most of the place, which reminds me of when WWOHP opened as well, the difference being that these still weren't known places from the films, and therefore it felt like just star wars-esque.
One of the key things about visiting other lands based on the movies is seeing how accurate they are, but other than the Falcon...pretty much everything hasn't been on film, so there is nothing to really say "hey, this looks exactly like _________" and I feel like that takes a bit away from the experience, plus like others have said, there's no aliens walking around, just CM's in funny clothes and hats.
I'm not saying this is a failure, but a little bit more added to the land might make a big difference.
I only ever saw two stormtroopers walking around, didn't see Chewie or Kylo Ren walking around. The Ronto wrap was good but not incredible IMO. Blue milk was very good though. I didn't try the green milk, but next time I plan to have the blue milk with rum.
There was queues to get into most of the place, which reminds me of when WWOHP opened as well, the difference being that these still weren't known places from the films, and therefore it felt like just star wars-esque.
One of the key things about visiting other lands based on the movies is seeing how accurate they are, but other than the Falcon...pretty much everything hasn't been on film, so there is nothing to really say "hey, this looks exactly like _________" and I feel like that takes a bit away from the experience, plus like others have said, there's no aliens walking around, just CM's in funny clothes and hats.
I'm not saying this is a failure, but a little bit more added to the land might make a big difference.
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives
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Question. Is there anywhere that has been shown in the Star Wars universe that would have that same appeal of Diagon Alley or Hogsmeade? I'm a pretty big fan of Star Wars, but thinking through it, I'm not sure if 'hanging out' in Coruscant would be any better than Batuu. With the lands from Harry Potter, there's a significant amount of detail that was pulled from the books and the characters spent a ton of time there that it lends itself to that emotional connection.
I'm just not sure if there's anything like that to date within the Star Wars universe.
Franklin47disneyguy
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Saw the Honda Onaka & R2 characters in the latest Tim Tracker video, shame they are not meeting
Wouldnt they want higher attendance? More guests = more Per Capita per guest. Seems like a basic numbers game.
I never said it was a success or a failure so why attempt to shift it towards that? I simply asked if they thought the execs were celebrating today. I dont know the answer. But I would say that theyre not. That doesnt mean I think their panicking either. But Look at their actions after the opening in Aneheim. Do companies usually make budget cuts days after a products release if said product is doing well? The same cuts were applied to Orlando.
I think youre still confused. Especially when opening with a line like, "the reality is,....". Which I suppose you believe adds credibility to your statement. A company does not waste time and money creating reservation systems, online registration, virtual queues, etc, if they have "softened expectations".
The_Jobu
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As Marni said a few days ago, we really wont know much until a couple weeks have passed. It's very difficult to make conclusions from an opening day/weekend.
scottieRoss
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or we could be even more reduntant and say Per Capita Per Guest per person. Per Capita means per person. Welcome to the board room
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives
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1) More guests does not equal more Per Capita per guest. Yes, you gain more revenue, but you usually see your per capita go down with more guests. More guests also equal more staffing you have to do to accommodate those guests. Companies will want to balance that and is a reason why you see Disney continuing to raise the admission prices (yes, we may have 10% less guests, but if we make the same dollars and have to staff less since we have less people, we ended up making MORE of a profit).
2) Meet expectations is the equivalent of success/failure. When starting on a project, you set up criteria to understand if something is successful or a failure. If you meet the criteria, that means you've met the expectations you set up at the beginning of the project which designates if it's considered a success or failure. You don't view something like this from a subjective lens, but from a VERY objective lens to ensure you're measuring the success of something accurately and not from your gut in the moment.
3) Definitely not confused. But keep going for personal attacks instead of actually debating. That doesn't undermine your argument at all. A company weighs the experience of a customer to ensure they are maximizing profits. All that you listed, creating reservation systems, online registration, and virtual queues are not going to be used for SWGE and that's it. They will more than likely apply part of those expenses of those projects across a variety of projects. One, it softens the impact and ties it into ROI because in a vacuum, neither of those things drive revenue back to the resort. In regards to 'softened expectations', you can't operate in a vacuum. You have to take into account the time of year that you're opening an attraction. That's why many rides these days are opened at the beginning of the peak summer period. Opening it after the end of Summer, you work on your predictions and analysis to take into account the market trends you're normally going to see at the end of August/beginning of September as opposed to the middle of June.
ChrisFL
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That's why I posted in another thread on the general forum that there possibly should have been 3 "planets" featured instead of one unknown one.
A thousand pardons for my faux pas, Sir. Please don't notify the Cambridge scholars.
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives
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That probably would've gone over better, though my brain keeps thinking of how to do that in the space provided without it being too jarring.
bclane
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For me the iconic places *that could work* are all inside. Outside locations would be too hard to pull off unless done inside a giant sound stage building. For example, the whole duel between Vader and Luke on Cloud City would make for some epic theme park locations, along with inside the Death Star, the various rebel bases, etc. It’s just the nature of Star Wars imo. I think RotR will give us the inside looks I’m talking about. I also think Batuu was the best option they could have come up with all things considered and when they figure out how to incorporate OT and prequel characters into the land (maybe a war museum) along with some of the cut elements they will win over a lot more people.
The_Jobu
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The only places I can really recall that might work are Tatooine (Mos Eisley > Oga's) or maybe Endor. Resistance is supposed to transport people from the planet into a starship, so that's another possibility.
I would imagine by January if these crowds keep up.
the Death Star.
I need some help here. Everyone was saying a few months ago that EACH SW:GE ran over budget by $400-$600 million. Now you’re all talking about it having had massive budget cuts.
Which is it?
Which is it?
danlb_2000
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Speaking as someone who has built one, they can set you back quite a bit. Sideshow Collectables show sells one for $7450 but doesn't have any of the automation at the GE one has.
drod1985
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I'm not sure of the source on GE going over budget, but a project has three primary variables: budget, schedule, or scope. They all affect each other.
If GE was projected to be over budget then they reduced scope (droids, aliens, shows) to compensate. At the same time they likely modified the schedule to bring revenue in earlier to offset being over budget. So yes, issues with budget likely led to the modifications in scope and schedule.
Rodan75
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I think the biggest issue with both land openings is a misunderstanding of the vacation planning cycle. At current prices even announcing firm opening dates 6 months (were they even that long for WDW?) ahead is too late. Vacation planning cycles are 1-2 years out for most guests. It doesn’t make sense to change plans to try and be First on the ride. Heck Disney has trained us to plan out vacations long in advance.
Like Pandora and NFL, the truth will come in time.
Like Pandora and NFL, the truth will come in time.
SirWillow
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It can be both. Because it was running over budget they cut back the spending that they were going to do on some things to try to come closer to the budget. Means they spent more than they wanted, even with eliminating and cutting back on some things they planned and wanted to do.