News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[Ismael Flores]

Meanwhile, at Disneyland...

oh man i hate those turkey legs, I don't know why but seeing people walk around with those greasy things disgust me. no offense to anyone that likes them, its just the idea of walking around with something that should be eaten on the table creeps me out. I'm sure they are tasty but how many of those hands get turkey grease on them and then touch everything they come near to.
Do they even come wrapped with a paper holder or does everyone eat them like this with hands on the bone?

 

[TROR]

I've never had that turkey legs and have never been a fan of turkey tbh but I've always wanted to try one of them

 

[Incomudro]

oh man i hate those turkey legs, I don't know why but seeing people walk around with those greasy things disgust me. no offense to anyone that likes them, its just the idea of walking around with something that should be eaten on the table creeps me out. I'm sure they are tasty but how many of those hands get turkey grease on them and then touch everything they come near to.
Do they even come wrapped with a paper holder or does everyone eat them like this with hands on the bone?

They're actually not good.
We got one for my son a couple of years ago and they have/had a sort of cold cut or processed cured meat taste.
Sort of corned beefish.
They didn't really taste like turkey.

 

[VJ]

The land has fallen behind schedule (WDW's even moreso). There is panic.

Exclusive leaked footage of the Disney executive meeting...

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Its bad news if execs are already panicking on this side of the SWL opening...I suspect that when it does open and everything goes to hell, they'll all be on vacation somewhere in the caribbean.

 

[Ismael Flores]

Well, in the video feature I mentioned, the millennium falcom show producer does look like she's too you to drink from Ooga's cantina so you could very well be on to something. I think this is just a prime example of what current Disneyland/DCA leadership is concerned about...flashy, expensive rides with limited daily capacity. I think they were just too far down the rabbit hole on this one to make any changes and quite honestly, they may be willing to live with it given the sheer number of people this addition will bring to Disneyland...even if those people may not get to experience and leave a bit unhappier than when they showed up.

In my opinion, I think that TDA might not realize that the whole land could be considered an attraction of its own. The attractions might not have a huge capacity but the land should keep people entertained for a few hours.
I think the biggest issue was not planning ahead for another attraction that could open a few months after the land opens. whether it be an addition to the land or another attraction in one of the other expansion pads around the park to help even out crowds.

Its too bad that the Marvel project keeps changing because that would have been the perfect balancing act for the resort if it had opened with a major attraction soon after SWGE opened and then added attractions that would open at least every year as it expanded that land.

 

[mickEblu]

oh man i hate those turkey legs, I don't know why but seeing people walk around with those greasy things disgust me. no offense to anyone that likes them, its just the idea of walking around with something that should be eaten on the table creeps me out. I'm sure they are tasty but how many of those hands get turkey grease on them and then touch everything they come near to.
Do they even come wrapped with a paper holder or does everyone eat them like this with hands on the bone?

I’m a big meat eater and Ill admit that those can gross me out sometimes. I mean don’t get wrong, I’ve eaten them 5 or 6 times but I’m usually sharing with someone. I feel like they were better a few years ago. The last couple I tried were kind of undercooked. The worst part about the turkey legs is the smell they leave on your hands.

 

[mickEblu]

In my opinion, I think that TDA might not realize that the whole land could be considered an attraction of its own. The attractions might not have a huge capacity but the land should keep people entertained for a few hours.
I think the biggest issue was not planning ahead for another attraction that could open a few months after the land opens. whether it be an addition to the land or another attraction in one of the other expansion pads around the park to help even out crowds.

Its too bad that the Marvel project keeps changing because that would have been the perfect balancing act for the resort if it had opened with a major attraction soon after SWGE opened and then added attractions that would open at least every year as it expanded that land.

For a few hours? Excluding the time waiting in line and riding the attractions? Can you imagine trying to take in the atmosphere in NOS sized alleyways with hoards of people? I think that level of theming is more felt than seen. I just can’t stop and smell the roses when I’m in an ant farm. It’s kind of impossible.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

I'm just gonna go ahead and copyright calling SWL the Beehive of Disneyland.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

I'm just gonna go ahead and copyright calling SWL the Beehive of Disneyland.

Better have some uniformed officers walking around for the first few months. Maybe they can go undercover as storm troopers or rebels?

 

[Rich T]

WHY do people hate this!?? SWGE is going to be immersive and fun.

It's simply the placement. It's like.. if there was a Tolkien theme park and the suits in charge had bought the rights to Stranger Things and bulldozed half of Lothlorien to build Stranger Things Land. And then the people start saying, "This is going to be so great! I can't wait to go to Tolkien Land to ride Stranger Things!!!!"

That's what it comes down to. The Stranger Things land might be awesome, but it doesn't belong in Tolkien Land.
(EDIT) Even if the same corporation owns the rights to both.

 

[Phroobar]

It's simply the placement. It's like.. if there was a Tolkien theme park and the suits in charge had bought the rights to Stranger Things and bulldozed half of Lothlorien to build Stranger Things Land. And then the people start saying, "This is going to be so great! I can't wait to go to Tolkien Land to ride Stranger Things!!!!"

That's what it comes down to. The Stranger Things land might be awesome, but it doesn't belong in Tolkien Land.
(EDIT) Even if the same corporation owns the rights to both.

Debatable on it's placement. See last 500 pages.

Problem is Disney just takes too long to build things so people's opinions swing like saloon doors. Hesse the wave of hate where there was once excitement. The retread of the same discussion burns people out.

 

[Disney Irish]

It's simply the placement. It's like.. if there was a Tolkien theme park and the suits in charge had bought the rights to Stranger Things and bulldozed half of Lothlorien to build Stranger Things Land. And then the people start saying, "This is going to be so great! I can't wait to go to Tolkien Land to ride Stranger Things!!!!"

That's what it comes down to. The Stranger Things land might be awesome, but it doesn't belong in Tolkien Land.
(EDIT) Even if the same corporation owns the rights to both.

To be fair, that's not quite an accurate comparison. The better way to say it would be:

It's like.. if there was a Tolkien theme park and the suits in charge had bought the rights to Stranger Things and bulldozed a backstage area and part of a eatery in the Lothlorien area to build Stranger Things Land. And then the people start saying, "This is going to be so great! I can't wait to go to Tolkien Land to ride Stranger Things!!!!"

 

[Rich T]

Debatable on it's placement. See last 500 pages.

The Problem is Disney just takes too long to build things so people's opinions swing like saloon doors. Hesse the wave of hate where there was once excitement. The retread of the same discussion burns people out.

I agree the corporation is doing the smart corporation thing with its shiny new IP. But I think I speak for a lot of the long-time Disney fans here who will never be 100 % okay with such a huge amount of space being taken up by an IP Disney did not create.

Here's the thing, and I'm sticking with the Tolkien comparison: Stranger Things Land goes into Tolkien Land. Both properties in this imaginary parallel are owned by TOLKIEN (a huge media corporation that has grown from the original Tolkien books). Suddenly Tolkien Land is no longer about J.R.R. Tolkien and his creations; now people--especially the younger generations--are increasingly thinking of the name "Tolkien" as representing the corporation and all its acquisitions (lets pretend they also bought "My Little Pony," Chuck E. Cheese, Lego, Betty Crocker and Dark Horse Comics and had future plans to incorporate it all into Tolkien Land...because they can.) And some younger fans of the corporation don't even believe J.R.R. Tolkien was a real person at this point.

It's a unique situation, where a man's name has become more recognized as a corporate hodgepodge. The Walt Disney company is losing its identity and its heritage... and this huge change to DL really irks a lot of us.

 

[McPhoenix]

To be fair, that's not quite an accurate comparison. The better way to say it would be:

I'm not sure even that is a fair comparison. Disneyland is not one cohesive theme - it's a melding of a variety of themes. Is there any particular reason that fairy tale fantasy fits but space fantasy doesn't?

 

[Rich T]

I'm not sure even that is a fair comparison. Disneyland is not one cohesive theme - it's a melding of a variety of themes. Is there any particular reason that fairy tale fantasy fits but space fantasy doesn't?

But it all came out of the Walt Disney Studio, which, once upon a time, had its own style and its own way of telling stories. Walt Disney set the stage, and for many years, the Imagineers did a great job of keeping things cohesive... even to the point of finding appropriate ways of fitting SW and Indiana Jones in without tipping the balance. Times change--doesn't mean I can't grumble about it.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

I agree the corporation is doing the smart corporation thing with its shiny new IP. But I think I speak for a lot of the long-time Disney fans here who will never be 100 % okay with such a huge amount of space being taken up by an IP Disney did not create.

Here's the thing, and I'm sticking with the Tolkien comparison: Stranger Things Land goes into Tolkien Land. Both properties in this imaginary parallel are owned by TOLKIEN (a huge media corporation that has grown from the original Tolkien books). Suddenly Tolkien Land is no longer about J.R.R. Tolkien and his creations; now people--especially the younger generations--are increasingly thinking of the name "Tolkien" as representing the corporation and all its acquisitions (lets pretend they also bought "My Little Pony," Chuck E. Cheese, Lego, Betty Crocker and Dark Horse Comics and had future plans to incorporate it all into Tolkien Land...because they can.) And some younger fans of the corporation don't even believe J.R.R. Tolkien was a real person at this point.

It's a unique situation, where a man's name has become more recognized as a corporate hodgepodge. The Walt Disney company is losing its identity and its heritage... and this huge change to DL really irks a lot of us.

I'm just gonna refer to SWL as Bob Iger Land. That's the only way it will be justified/make sense.

 

[britain]

I agree the corporation is doing the smart corporation thing with its shiny new IP. But I think I speak for a lot of the long-time Disney fans here who will never be 100 % okay with such a huge amount of space being taken up by an IP Disney did not create.

Here's the thing, and I'm sticking with the Tolkien comparison: Stranger Things Land goes into Tolkien Land. Both properties in this imaginary parallel are owned by TOLKIEN (a huge media corporation that has grown from the original Tolkien books). Suddenly Tolkien Land is no longer about J.R.R. Tolkien and his creations; now people--especially the younger generations--are increasingly thinking of the name "Tolkien" as representing the corporation and all its acquisitions (lets pretend they also bought "My Little Pony," Chuck E. Cheese, Lego, Betty Crocker and Dark Horse Comics and had future plans to incorporate it all into Tolkien Land...because they can.) And some younger fans of the corporation don't even believe J.R.R. Tolkien was a real person at this point.

It's a unique situation, where a man's name has become more recognized as a corporate hodgepodge. The Walt Disney company is losing its identity and its heritage... and this huge change to DL really irks a lot of us.

Hate to break it to you, but Jack Warner's or Lionel B. Mayer's legacies are much further ahead when it comes to erosion.

Besides, Walt would be the first person to say this should be about fun creative storytelling, not about him.

 

[Phroobar]

I agree the corporation is doing the smart corporation thing with its shiny new IP. But I think I speak for a lot of the long-time Disney fans here who will never be 100 % okay with such a huge amount of space being taken up by an IP Disney did not create.

Here's the thing, and I'm sticking with the Tolkien comparison: Stranger Things Land goes into Tolkien Land. Both properties in this imaginary parallel are owned by TOLKIEN (a huge media corporation that has grown from the original Tolkien books). Suddenly Tolkien Land is no longer about J.R.R. Tolkien and his creations; now people--especially the younger generations--are increasingly thinking of the name "Tolkien" as representing the corporation and all its acquisitions (lets pretend they also bought "My Little Pony," Chuck E. Cheese, Lego, Betty Crocker and Dark Horse Comics and had future plans to incorporate it all into Tolkien Land...because they can.) And some younger fans of the corporation don't even believe J.R.R. Tolkien was a real person at this point.

It's a unique situation, where a man's name has become more recognized as a corporate hodgepodge. The Walt Disney company is losing its identity and its heritage... and this huge change to DL really irks a lot of us.

However, Star Wars has been part of Disneyland for half of it's existence. Star Wars was considered a "Disney movie" from the day it was released even though Disney never had anything to do with it. It can be argued that Star Wars and George Lucas actually SAVED Disneyland since Disney couldn't come up with a property it owned that people cared enough about to visit the park. It is Star Tours that brought the crowds back to Disneyland and made it relative to older people. Before that, Disneyland was a place parents took their kids because they had to. No one went there without children. Indiana Jones and Star Wars brought investment back to the park. Galaxy Edge fits perfectly with Frontierland and looks completely stupid at DHS. Star Wars at it's core is nothing but a western in space. But this has all been said many times before.

 

[Rich T]

Hate to break it to you, but Jack Warner's or Lionel B. Mayer's legacies are much further ahead when it comes to erosion.

Besides, Walt would be the first person to say this should be about fun creative storytelling, not about him.

Walt Disney's legacy, as you well know, had a far greater impact on pop culture--and had a stronger identity--than the films produced by Jack Warner or Mayer. And Jack Warner didn't even know which characters his cartoon studio was responsible for.

Disney was unique in the history of entertainment. You already know that.

I, and a lot of others, had the good fortune to grow up with an amazing creative figure on TV every week, who presented amazing stories from his studio in a pre-home-video world where quality animation was rare viewing. He created an amazing, inspiring park with the help of many of the same talented people who created his animated films. That park became our best summer memory for many years.

We were all lucky it lasted and kept its identity for as long as it did. Nothing lasts forever.

I agree that Walt might have loved Star Wars. But, again, it would have been nice to see DL remain a place that didn't give over so much acreage to an IP that the WD Studio didn't create.