News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

Phroobar

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They are refurbishing this area into "Grand Avenue" which is supposed to be a recreation of "present-day downtown Los Angeles" that features MuppetVision and a new brewpub serving California wines and beers. I'm not making that up, WDI is creating a circa 2018 downtown LA as a themed mini-land in WDW. https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...nue-coming-soon-to-disneys-hollywood-studios/ Odd thematic choice, but there you go. o_O

I didn't know California was known for beer. Wine makes sense though but beer?

Where are in downtown LA are these buildings architecture suppose to be?

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TP2000

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I didn't know California was known for beer. Wine makes sense though but beer?

Any hipster downtown area with a terribly clever name in any city in America is now known for beer. While SoCal has some great craft breweries, it's not a concept exclusive to SoCal and certainly not exclusive to "downtown LA".

Craft beer is just a thing that happens in any gentrified urban neighborhood now, from Seattle to Savannah to SODOSOPA Historic CoreDistrict.

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Although, there may be a method to the Imagineer's madness, because after braving the lines for Star Wars Land in the Florida climate, you'll probably want a beer or three.
 

Phroobar

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Any hipster downtown area with a terribly clever name in any city in America is now known for beer. While SoCal has some great craft breweries, it's not a concept exclusive to SoCal and certainly not exclusive to downtown LA. It's just a thing that happens in any gentrified urban neighborhood now, from Seattle to Savannah to SODOSOPA Historic CoreDistrict.

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LA has a hipster downtown? When I think of downtown LA, I think skidrow. So they couldn't be bothered to put in a Winery instead?
 

MisterPenguin

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I didn't know California was known for beer. Wine makes sense though but beer?

Where are in downtown LA are these buildings architecture suppose to be?

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Grand and 7th Ave in Los Angeles, just like the flyers in PizzeRizzo says...

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Brick face pub on Grand and between 7th & 6th.

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SSG

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Any hipster downtown area with a terribly clever name in any city in America is now known for beer. While SoCal has some great craft breweries, it's not a concept exclusive to SoCal and certainly not exclusive to "downtown LA".

Craft beer is just a thing that happens in any gentrified urban neighborhood now, from Seattle to Savannah to SODOSOPA Historic CoreDistrict.

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Although, there may be a method to the Imagineer's madness, because after braving the lines for Star Wars Land in the Florida climate, you'll probably want a beer or three.

Add in some retail space made from re-purposed shipping containers, and it's a hipster fever dream.
 

The Mur

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When looking at the "Alcatraz" building in FL from the back side (like our view from the parking garage) fascinated that there is much less space to the right of the building. The concrete extensions being built in Anaheim would not fit there tucked up against the Muppet Theater building. So curious what those buildings are for in Anaheim. I have always assumed queue based upon the model.
 

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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When looking at the "Alcatraz" building in FL from the back side (like our view from the parking garage) fascinated that there is much less space to the right of the building. The concrete extensions being built in Anaheim would not fit there tucked up against the Muppet Theater building. So curious what those buildings are for in Anaheim. I have always assumed queue based upon the model.
OK, I'm glad someone else pointed that out. I can't fathom those concrete structures (which are part of queue per @marni1971) fitting in that tiny space behind Muppets in DHS. Maybe the scale is all thrown off, but something just doesn't look right.
 

TP2000

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When looking at the "Alcatraz" building in FL from the back side (like our view from the parking garage) fascinated that there is much less space to the right of the building. The concrete extensions being built in Anaheim would not fit there tucked up against the Muppet Theater building. So curious what those buildings are for in Anaheim. I have always assumed queue based upon the model.

Yes, I noticed that too. The D23 Expo model and the Imagineer who chatted with me both confirmed it would be queue and "pre-show" space.

OK, I'm glad someone else pointed that out. I can't fathom those concrete structures (which are part of queue per @marni1971) fitting in that tiny space behind Muppets in DHS. Maybe the scale is all thrown off, but something just doesn't look right.

Because they can't fit. At DHS the "Alcatraz" ride is nudged up right against the backside of MuppetVision.

Here's an aerial shot of Disneyland from early this year. Notice the big round structure to the southwest of the main warehouse for Alcatraz. Then notice the huge amount of space between it and the backside of Winnie The Pooh and the winding path from the Rivers of America under the railroad berm and into Star Wars Land.
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Then notice that exact same round structure in the exact same spot of the Alcatraz ride facility at DHS from last week. It's only about 50 yards away from the pink warehouse of MuppetVision. A tight squeeze!
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I can't confirm it because the angles are so different, but the amount of land in front of the Falcon ride also seems much smaller than Disneyland before it hits the berm that will be built at DHS. There's obviously some missing acreage between Disneyland and DHS. I think the ride facilities look identical in size, but the surrounding space for pathways and village buildings and queue seem noticeably smaller and/or smooshed together at DHS.

We need an identical Google Earth image of both properties to confirm that though. But the space between Alcatraz and Muppets/Pooh is dramatically smaller at DHS compared to Disneyland. No wonder they showed the Disneyland version of the model at D23 Expo.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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My God the old Star Tours at MGM is so charming with the Ewok Village and matte painting of the forest on the side of the building.

Is it possible they'll just get rid of the Muppet show altogether within a couple years and absorb the space? That show will be going on 30 years old.
 

No Name

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I don't get the concern.

DHS has far more extra space around their Star Wars Land than DL does, both in front and to the right. That's a fact, and doesn't make one resort superior in any way. It's just the situation. So if DHS's has less room to the left, which appears to be the case, that's by choice. Why they made that choice is the question.

But at least they're going with purpose-built entrances for each park, rather than exact clones that don't work as well. Isn't that a good thing?
 
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DHS has far more extra space around their Star Wars Land than DL does, both in front and to the right.

I'm not seeing that, but ok. I agree though that those small differences don't make one resort superior to the other.
 

TP2000

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I don't get the concern.

DHS has far more extra space around their Star Wars Land than DL does, both in front and to the right. That's a fact, and doesn't make one resort superior in any way. It's just the situation.

I don't see that at all. From the aerial images we have been able to see thus far, the exact opposite appears to be the case. The DHS version seems to have been trimmed on all sides, particularly on the "left" side around the Alcatraz ride. But also in the village area in front of the Falcon ride.

I'm not seeing that, but ok. I agree though that those small differences don't make one resort superior to the other.

They may not make a difference at all. But in the past so many folks have been claiming that the Disneyland version was being forced into a park that doesn't have the room for it. And yet now that construction is well underway, it appears as though the Disneyland version has the "blessing of size" and sprawling transition spaces, while the DHS version is wedged in next to MuppetVision and other warehouse buildings with noticeably less transition space. That's very interesting how that's working out.

Again, once we are able to get matching identically scaled Google Earth images of each land, we should know just how much has been trimmed from the the DHS version and where. My hunch is quite a bit has been trimmed from around the Alcatraz ride and its queue, and lesser amounts of trimming and squeezing around the Falcon ride and village facilities in front of it.
 

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