Star Wars fan won over by Marvel

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Marvel might be newer to the mega movie thing, but they’ve still been around forever - who never heard of Captain America, etc.

Of course...but I’m talking specifically about movie franchises...Star Wars is...it was...the most influential one ever based on the cultural impact/history...just my take.

 

[Princess Leia]

Marvel might be newer to the mega movie thing, but they’ve still been around forever - who never heard of Captain America, etc.

They've definitely been around forever, but now a lot of characters are super mainstream. Iron Man was a B-hero to Marvel until they made the movie. I had no idea that Thor was a comic character until 2012. And you really don't need to look further than the Guardians of the Galaxy to see how being a MCU movie can mean mainstream success.

I'm not sure how all of that's translated to the comic side of Marvel, but without the movies, I wouldn't have read Fraction & Aja's Hawkeye series.

 

[Indy_UK]

I was 10 in '97 when the special editions came out and that was when I fell in love with Star Wars. I've been one of the biggest fans of the franchise and I probably always will be but the more it goes on, I see myself becoming more of a Marvel fan.

Never was a Marvel guy before Disney took over but the films they are putting out are of such good quality that they have me hooked. I feel so invested in the characters that I can't stop watching. Infinity War has me in tears at a couple of points so these films much obvious have an effect on me.

 

[Princess Leia]

Never was a Marvel guy before Disney took over but the films they are putting out are of such good quality that they have me hooked. I feel so invested in the characters that I can't stop watching. Infinity War has me in tears at a couple of points so these films much obvious have an effect on me.

Bucky Barnes has become one of my favorite characters in a very short period of time. 10 years ago I would have asked “Who the hell is Bucky?” (just like Bucky). Opening night of Infinity War, I was bawling during the last few minutes

Spoiler: Infinity War spoiler

starting as soon as Bucky got dusted

For me, there are Marvel characters who are on the same level as Harry Potter characters in terms of how well they’re written, and it’s pretty remarkable to see how the world is latching onto them.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I’m still much more into Star Wars.

I like X-men a lot, wherever that falls.

Liked the first Ironman more than expected, the second less so. Couldn’t sit through the first Captain America on cable, tried more than once. That kind of killed a lot for me because I presume all the Avengers stuff built on that, didn’t feel like doing homework before seeing them.

I like Ant-Man and GotG.

Honestly, you don't need to watch all of the Marvel movies to enjoy them, they tell fairly self-contained stories.

Infinity War has been billed as the culmination of 10 years, but they haven't really built up to the story in any significant ways. Thanos and the infinity stones have been used pretty briefly, and I can't think of anything in the previous movies that suggested what kind of showdown was coming or why the stones were important.

Something like Infinity War is more fun if you know all the characters, and can enjoy seeing many of them interact for the first time, but there's no major dependency on what came before. Even if a movie like Civil War hadn't happened, which changed some characters relationships with each other, they still could have done Infinity War with minimal impact on the larger story.

I endorse the movies, as they do get better. The first Thor and Captain America movies are pretty dull by today's standards.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They've definitely been around forever, but now a lot of characters are super mainstream. Iron Man was a B-hero to Marvel until they made the movie. I had no idea that Thor was a comic character until 2012. And you really don't need to look further than the Guardians of the Galaxy to see how being a MCU movie can mean mainstream success.

I'm not sure how all of that's translated to the comic side of Marvel, but without the movies, I wouldn't have read Fraction & Aja's Hawkeye series.

This is an important point: few of these characters had wide cultural appeal before mcu.

They weren’t Batman or Superman...I’d say Spider-Man was the most popular - not even mcu though - and the comic book marvel fans tended to gravitate towards X-men....

But Thor, Ironman, even captain America weren’t really visually recognizable by people off the street. And without lou ferigno, few would have recognized the hulk.

They took really niche geekdom characters and developed them into worldwide appeal.

...Other franchises have not fared so well....

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I was 10 in '97 when the special editions came out and that was when I fell in love with Star Wars. I've been one of the biggest fans of the franchise and I probably always will be but the more it goes on, I see myself becoming more of a Marvel fan.

Never was a Marvel guy before Disney took over but the films they are putting out are of such good quality that they have me hooked. I feel so invested in the characters that I can't stop watching. Infinity War has me in tears at a couple of points so these films much obvious have an effect on me.

You’re that “bizzaro” age of Star Wars Fan....

Not old enough to have experienced any feel from the originals...and not really the darth maul halllween costume age either...

How confusing that must be...

 

[Animaniac93-98]

The MCU has more titles overall and is more consistent in quality. Not all of them are great, but they know how to play up each character's and setting's strengths.

Star Wars has the OT, a good remake (Force Awakens) and a good prequel (Rogue One). The rest? They're only OK at best.

 

[Indy_UK]

You’re that “bizzaro” age of Star Wars Fan....

Not old enough to have experienced any feel from the originals...and not really the darth maul halllween costume age either...

How confusing that must be...

I can certainly appreciate the originals for how good they are. They are the reason I love Star Wars. I was 12 when Phantom Menace came out and while I liked it to start with, by the time I was 15 and Attack of the clones came out, I twigged something wasn’t right with these films. Revenge of the Sith did redeem the trilogy though....barely

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I can certainly appreciate the originals for how good they are. They are the reason I love Star Wars. I was 12 when Phantom Menace came out and while I liked it to start with, by the time I was 15 and Attack of the clones came out, I twigged something wasn’t right with these films. Revenge of the Sith did redeem the trilogy though....barely

Well...sit down because I’m gonna tell you something you’re now old enough to know...they were ALL Bad

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The MCU has more titles overall and is more consistent in quality. Not all of them are great, but they know how to play up each character's and setting's strengths.

Star Wars has the OT, a good remake (Force Awakens) and a good prequel (Rogue One). The rest? They're only OK at best.

You might be too kind...

 

[LSLS]

Marvel movies clearly have blown away all other movies recently. The combined total of Thor, Black Panther, Infinity War and Deadpool now are
$4,938,811,864. That is a mindblowing total for just 4 movies.

That is even more insane when you factor in Deadpool was a rated R movie.

 

[LSLS]

This is an important point: few of these characters had wide cultural appeal before mcu.

They weren’t Batman or Superman...I’d say Spider-Man was the most popular - not even mcu though - and the comic book marvel fans tended to gravitate towards X-men....

But Thor, Ironman, even captain America weren’t really visually recognizable by people off the street. And without lou ferigno, few would have recognized the hulk.

They took really niche geekdom characters and developed them into worldwide appeal.

...Other franchises have not fared so well....

I think that's important. I didn't get into the Disney MCU until this year (I binge watched them all thanks to the Infinty War trailers making me think this is something I have to try). A big reason for that is how I grew up. I wasn't a comic book guy, but I did watch my Saturday morning cartoons. I loved X-Men, loved Batman. Spiderman was good (but not in the Disney MCU for quite a while). Knew a lot on Superman and Wonderwoman. I had way more investment with DC than Marvel (and the Marvel I was invested in was not Disney). I can honestly say outside of the Dark knight movies, I have had 0 interest in DC. I liked Wonder Woman, but I'm not overly excited for the next one, and the Justice League trailers just haven't done much for me. The fact they took people like me and my generation and completely converted us speaks volumes to what they are doing.

Going back to the crux of this thread, I was never a die hard for either franchise, but I never watched Marvel (as stated above). I did really like Star Wars. I'm not a huge movie theater person. Outside of the cruise ships, I pay for movies maybe once a year (usually I wait for DVD). I think the last 2 I had seen in theaters were TLJ and TFA (there may be some kids movies inbetween with our child). I saw Infinity Wars 4 times in theaters (I have NEVER seen a movie more than a couple times in theaters). I also did not see (and really had no desire to see) Solo. I think that speaks to how well Marvel has done (and how poorly Star Wars).