Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker Reactions: SPOILERS

FigmentForver96

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I was already thinking these things just leaving the theater. I just found an article I agreed with. Also it’s really not hard for any Star Wars fan to find faults in this movie.

The real test will be its legs. TLJ didn’t have good ones and I don’t think this will either.

So the second Death Star just makes everything else ok because that movie did it. I’m sorry, but this is just ridiculous and lazy at this point. JJ first doing Starkiller Base and then trying to top that with a fleet of Death Star Destroyers. Sorry if I wanted something more from this trilogy. It also wasn’t only Leia who knew, Luke knew as well. It makes his actions in TLJ even more baffling. If he knew all of this why would he refuse to help her?

Whatever. I’m tired and going to sleep. I need it after this.

Not all that baffling considering he didn’t want nothing to do with training or the Jedi period. Even during their training he sees how’s she drawn to the dark and tells her to pull back. He knows her power.

And one thing we’re not going to do is belittle anyone who enjoyed the film cause some “wanted more from the trilogy”. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying that it makes sense for the empire aka the emperor to want to do it. He seems it as ultimate control hence why he tries multiple forms. I’m not saying it’s not predictable and something new wouldn’t have been nice, I’m saying that it fits within the entire idea of the emperor and control otherwise he would have stopped after the first.

My belittling comments are not made to you specifically but this will quickly turn into a “Well if you liked it then it’s because you don’t get Star Wars” thread. End of the day it’s a movie. Lives will not end or be altered due to it. You didn’t like it, that’s awesome and you hold every right to hold that opinion. You may continue to enjoy the OT trilogy as much as you like.
 

Sped2424

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I didn't hate force awakens or the last Jedi. But this? This film? Awful. Pure fanfic in a blender and pandering at the worst levels and REEKS of corporate interfernce and last minute changes. it baffles me how these films we're all made with different visions and Without an over arching idea no one thought that was a bad idea.
 

Jimmy Thick

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I have no idea what the hell I just saw.

The movie moves very fast, its trying to get so much information out to you and forcing the core characters of this trilogy down your throat like trying to shove a watermelon up your nostril. One second they are in space the next second they are on a desert planet and Lando shows up looking like he just polished off half a kegger of Colt 45. Absolutely no context.

Star Wars is Luke, Vader, Leia, Han, Chewie and the droids, I never got attached to the new characters, maybe this is my nostalgia like how some people are stuck in a certain time capsule of WDW, I don't know but the last three films were a terrible disappointment for me and this Rise of Skywalker is such a big turd it will never flush.

I'm embarrassed to have paid money to see this, well not as embarrassed as the guy who dressed as a Storm Trooper who the wouldn't let in because he refused to take off his helmet, but Disney should be ashamed for this. Yes Star Wars is a license to print money and if there is another film I'll go see it more than likely but man, this could have been so much more, this could have been something special. It should have been something special.

But it's not. Its a safe film. Couple nods here, couple raised eyebrow grins there but ultimately a participation trophy half hug with a big bowl of ice cream waiting for the players of a losing effort.

We should have gotten more than this, we as consumers/fans deserved it.
 

DoleWhipDrea

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Rise of Skywalker and this trilogy as a whole is a prime example of why it’s so important to have a solid outline of where you want to go with a story and its characters. There was plenty to like, but also a lot that just didn’t make sense.

For example: those star destroyers suddenly being fully staffed and stocked, even after the characters discuss the challenges of getting more recruits in the first place. Time is irrelevant I guess.

I’m glad I’m not the only one frustrated and perplexed that we never got a final conversation between Finn and Rey. There needed to be a verbal resolution between Finn, Rey and Poe. Something.

Many of the female characters, Leia included, were done dirty in certain respects, some more significantly than others. For all of the talk about progress, a lot seems to stay the same or get worse.

RoS feels often like a condescending “fan service” mess. I’m kind of heartbroken. I feel like there’s so much more to wrap up and now they can’t and won’t.

At least the acting was solid. Adam and Daisy are incredible together.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Episode 6 was literally them constructing another death star, the baddies in Star Wars have been pretty good at reusing ideas. I mean if I was the emperor I would absolutely want the galaxy distracted while I make My army of super weapons. Rather than let the Galaxy stay in peace after the defeat of the empire, he kept them distracted with the first order. Hence why he probably called it the final order as the first order was just the first phase.

So Leia knew about Rey, she knew Reys name didn’t define her. Rey struggled with the fact that she was a Palpatine. Leia knew the importance of guiding Rey and helping her control this power that we now understand she has for a reason. Other than confuse her Leia had not reason T
tell her.

The only thing I don’t really get is the Luke searching for the planet of however you spell it. My only guess is he didn’t think the emperor was alive and wanted to find it anyway. He gave up the search and then went to the events we know happened last movie. Last Jedi was a crappy film however by the end Luke seems to be pretty aware of his mistakes.

People aren’t going to like it, that’s fine it’s their opinion. People have been screaming about Star Wars being ruined since Phantom so this won’t be any different. It will still make big bucks and be a cultural icon for years to come. If Star Wars was ruined than it would have happened when they cried foul with the prequels.
People have been screaming that Star Wars has been ruined since RotJ. (Eww...Ewoks!)

Apparantly it's two good movies, seven childhood ruining ones. The hatred since Last Jedi might top the vitriol against Lucas since 1997, but not even by that much.

I thought us EPCOT diehards were a resentful bunch but we are as nothing compared to SW nerddom.
 
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Back!Elbow!Shoulders!

Omnia mutantur, nihil interit
Premium Member
It wasn’t perfect but I enjoyed it. I would say it’s middle of the pack. I would say that the sequel trilogy is safely the 2nd best trilogy.

But what do I know? Apparently I have been enjoying Star Wars “wrong” for 20+ years. 😂

2 questions:

The sequel trilogy put an emphasis on how much of the First Order (and I would assume the Final Order) was forced into service. Did anyone else find a little jarring that they kind of ignored that in the final battle?

Also, where is Luke’s green lightsaber?
 

LSLS

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Parts I did like: lightsaber duels were cool as always. I liked that she knew she'd need two lightsabers at the end. I like that she also built her own (apparently). There was a real feeling of camaraderie among the leads. They did a good job with Leia weaving those snippets together.

She obviously visited Batu and purchased one. Gotta keep the full immersion.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
That article isn't wrong, but I see people are already over analyzing this movie and expending a lot of effort to tear it apart.

I don't mind a certain amount of nit picking, but seeing how obsessive people are with The Last Jedi, two years later, I wonder why some people can't just enjoy a movie (or not enjoy a movie) for what it is, and move on.
This miss discussion - as we’ve seen since 1999- Is a bad sign for a Star Wars movie. Lather, rinse, repeat
Critics: 62% RT / 53% Meta

Audience Self-Reporters: 85% RT / 68% IMDB

Box Office: on track for the mega bucks everyone's expecting


Two out of three ain't bad. Though, I expect those numbers to fluctuate.



Where are you getting the third one? Estimates are being revised downward...

Not that it’s strong in China...but here’s a hard number that looks really “not good”

Farce awakens: $125,000,000 total
Last Johnson: $42,000,000 total
The Rise of the Abrams: $18,000,000 total tracking

Star Wars Isn’t China thing - for sure - but $18,000,000 from 1.8 or so billion people really is gonna get people to those gates in Shanghai, eh?
 

Mike S

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Anyone curious about Palpatine’s message to the galaxy mentioned but not heard in the movie, this is it. It happened in the video game Fortnite during its latest live event that tied into the movie.

In a way it’s fitting. The entire event (this is only part of it) was just as messy and disjointed as the movie. Oh well, at least the tie in along with the Christmas stuff going on now got me a free Millennium Falcon in the game 👍
 

Timmay

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Oh well...same here as everywhere else...the detractors seem to have to keep at it and at it defending their dislike. It’s like it’s their own personal crusade against the Disney/Star Wars merger, and they WILL convert you...by the sword if need be. Movies, SWGE...all failures.

Those of us that liked it...keep enjoying it. Those that didn’t, feel free to keep preaching to each other. Over and over and over.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Oh well...same here as everywhere else...the detractors seem to have to keep at it and at it defending their dislike. It’s like it’s their own personal crusade against the Disney/Star Wars merger, and they WILL convert you...by the sword if need be. Movies, SWGE...all failures.

Those of us that liked it...keep enjoying it. Those that didn’t, feel free to keep preaching to each other. Over and over and over.
Nice tantrum...

Watch the box office on this....you may be surprised to see who the “detractors” are:
Damn near everyone.

A Star Wars movie that people fight over and doesn’t have legs and mass appeal only falls into one category...

We’ve seen it before. And don’t blame those that don’t like it...nobody is predetermined to hate what they love...
There just has to be an appeal to the product that has not been there.
 

LSLS

Well-Known Member
Oh well...same here as everywhere else...the detractors seem to have to keep at it and at it defending their dislike. It’s like it’s their own personal crusade against the Disney/Star Wars merger, and they WILL convert you...by the sword if need be. Movies, SWGE...all failures.

Those of us that liked it...keep enjoying it. Those that didn’t, feel free to keep preaching to each other. Over and over and over.

Honestly that's nonsense. Go look up the posts of those "Crusaders" on the Mandalorian. They love the thing. I also think nearly all of them completely praise RotR. The problem is that they are being proven right. If the numbers are dropping as suggested, you could legit see the final Star Wars movie not even finish in the top 5 box offices of the YEAR. GE dropped their restrictions on the land real fast, and also dropped the "We don't need to advertise" mantra. You can enjoy it all, that's great. But I don't think you can with a straight face say they nailed it either. I think it's magnified when this all happens the same year Marvel drops their culmination.
 

Mike S

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Oh well...same here as everywhere else...the detractors seem to have to keep at it and at it defending their dislike. It’s like it’s their own personal crusade against the Disney/Star Wars merger, and they WILL convert you...by the sword if need be. Movies, SWGE...all failures.

Those of us that liked it...keep enjoying it. Those that didn’t, feel free to keep preaching to each other. Over and over and over.
I’m not trying to convert anyone dude. This is a review thread is it not? Does there need to be a safe space version for those who can’t handle the criticism? It’s called a discussion. I’m not trying to bad mouth anyone that liked it. Just the movie itself and the people that ran head first into this trilogy thinking of all the money they could make without having a god damn game plan in place.

On second thought, they actually had two possible game plans. The outlines from Lucas which could’ve easily been spruced up a bit and still used, and the outlines from Abrams. JJ threw out the first of those and Johnson threw out the second. Then it seems like JJ scrambled to still use most of his ideas in 9 so it ended up being a jumbled mess.
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Sirwalterraleigh

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I’m not trying to convert anyone dude. This a review thread is it not? Does there need to be a safe space version for those who can’t handle the criticism? It’s called a discussion. I’m not trying to bad mouth anyone that liked it. Just the movie itself and the people that ran head first into this trilogy thinking of all the money they could make without having a god damn game plan in place.

On second thought, they actually had two possible game plans. The outlines from Lucas which could’ve easily been spruced up a bit and still used, and the outlines from Abrams. JJ threw out the first of those and Johnson threw out the second. Then it seems like JJ scrambled to still use most of his ideas in 9 so it ended up being a jumbled mess.
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It’s whats most disappointing on this and every Disney site/thread. I do not hold the site responsible - except for one - as they don’t mandate no constructive criticism.

You just can’t call a spade a spade when common sense dictates it if is made by Disney without typical backlash. Bad product is bad product...no matter who Holds the copyright.

Somehow...a boned Star Wars trilogy (fact...it happened with the prequels and that’s how you know...and why this is even more inexcusable) somehow is taken as an affront to someone’s vacation countdown or their annual pass renewal?

I’ll never get it.

But I can predict the future:
So here how it’s gonna play: movie will get two big weekends...probably $500 domestic and $1 bil or so worldwide...and then it will limp off the stage rather quickly. No legs.

So the hateful pro-all things Disney faction is gonna start the pseudo-patronizing “gee...it only made a billion...sorry, 5 angry fan boys🙄

Mark that down...it’s gonna happen.
 

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