Star Wars All-Inclusive "Star Ship" Resort?

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AEfx

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But hey, if I have a tween, then the Values are too childish, the Moderates are insufficiently gimmicky, and the Deluxes are too hoitytoity. Maybe a Star Wars themed resort appeals exactly to the market Disney is loosing to Universal.

Absolutely. I'm sure there is good reason Universal pushes those Harry Potter packages so much, I'm sure they make up a significant portion of their business. I'd love to see their site metrics, but I am guessing they would show a marked difference in booking successes based on website visits given how many go there specifically to find out about Potter, and can book a specific package that guarantees them the full experience.

The difference here is that Disney would up that ante. An exclusive themed hotel? Finally, Disney actually moving on from the 1990's. Let's face it, Disney resorts kind of got stunted in the theming department as the rest of the world has moved to catch up. They just aren't the only game in town any more - theming largely based on architecture alone is increasingly common. It's time someone moved it to the next level, and this is what it sounds like.
 

Dead2009

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So let me guess:

Luxury Star Wars boutique resort at Disney World connected to the new land, with unique/immersive story driven experiences in attractions, dining, lodging and character interactions for $500 per person per day = unreasonable/ridiculous/outrageous/evil/money grubbing

Luxury Harry Potter boutique resort at Universal Orlando connected to the new land, with unique/immersive story driven experiences in attractions, dining, lodging and character interactions for $500 per person per day = innovative/shrewd/smart/wonderful/"Universal gets it"/take my money

Yeah thats basically how it works.
 

AEfx

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Not true.

I have it on good authority that NOBODY visits Walt Disney World for anything relating to IP. They're just shoving it down everyone's throats and forcing them to visit. :banghead::p:rolleyes:

LOL, seriously, I don't know how anyone can believe that in a post-Potter world. It's like we finally discovered that the world is indeed round, but there is a stubborn group who just will never admit that it is not flat.
 

KrzyKtty

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I wouldn't mind paying 1k a night per person if they are adults, but not sure Disney should charge that much for children. They don't eat as much. Also, the value starts diminishing for the value of the room. If all 4 members of the family are staying in the same room, the 1k per person, even kids, is not there.
 

monothingie

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Martin has seen the plans for the CBR tower. He said it leans French/New Orleans style. CBR isn't being turned into the SW resort.

And I would tend to agree, but if they want something like this ready day 1 for SWL and they haven't broken ground or done any preliminary permits yet for wherever they want to put it, it does raise my eyebrows that the only thing that could be ready is at the DCR or whatever will be left of it.
 

truecoat

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well I guess the Star Wars universe should only be inhabited by in shape 20 somethings?
and an FYI most guests under 30 probably could not afford the 1k/day cost... Stop being ageist

You probably shouldn't make such assumptions. Like the great Woody Allen said...



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Kamikaze

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Sadly too many people like you. Disney world really is doomed.

Making more money than ever. Within a couple percent of highest guest count ever.

Doomed! Doomed!

short of a chick showing up dressed as princess leia in a gold bikini in my room one night, i think i'll pass.

You can, you know, have your SO buy said gold bikini.

And I would tend to agree, but if they want something like this ready day 1 for SWL and they haven't broken ground or done any preliminary permits yet for wherever they want to put it, it does raise my eyebrows that the only thing that could be ready is at the DCR or whatever will be left of it.

CBR couldn't pass for a $500/night resort though. I like it well enough, but not $500/night. Its too spread for that. Unless the new tower has literally everything you need, then it wouldn't work.

For sure it wouldn't be done for opening. I mean, why would they? SWL is going to be draw enough for the Star Wars super fans that would pay this much for the experience (which sounds fantastic if you're into that). So once the land slows down a little for the superfan- this will get them to revisit and spend a fortune yet again. So likely 2023+.
This thing sounds so far down the pipe, it'll change a dozen times and probably end up a dessert party with exclusive meet and greet and cost double what they're saying now. ;)

Right - why have it open at SWL open when you can open it 18-24 months later and get the fans who went at open to come back for this? (Myself included)
 

matt9112

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Care to elaborate?
I'm assuming you mean that I'm willing to spend money to have an experience that not all people can afford. If that's what you've meant then it's been doomed from the start.

More so that the entire business model is based around upsells at the expense (often) of other guests. Hotel tiers....opps sorry "resorts" have always created that level of vacation to fit somebody's budget but now there is an upsell around every corner. Park admission just isn't enough. Tickets +hotel rooms used to be how the park made money now its.....DVC and extra crap. In the case of DVC they have destroyed all three monorail resorts so yeah I'm not holding my breath that this will be sugar sweet.

Edit: if you want to argue price point you will loose the cost of WDW has increased faster than median household income since 90s or so. Even for the wealthy the value is far less.
 

imperius

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Even as not a big Star Wars fan. If this got good reviews and was immersive as it says, I would pay it for the wife and I.
 

monothingie

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CBR couldn't pass for a $500/night resort though. I like it well enough, but not $500/night. Its too spread for that. Unless the new tower has literally everything you need, then it wouldn't work.

Do you think the Poly or the CR deserve a $500 rate? They get it because of either theming and/or the monorail. Their rooms aren't unique or special. The half of CBR that is being redeveloped is being removed. You have a new tower with a gondola stop. This could easily command a deluxe resort rate and most likely will with or without a Star Wars overlay.
 

MisterPenguin

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You probably shouldn't make such assumptions. Like the great Woody Allen said...
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That was Groucho Marx. Woody and other Jews liked to quote it.


Shouldn't this type of experience be available inside the already-premium (supposedly) theme park? The concept sounds cool and all of those things should be available in Star Wars Land (some at additional cost, obviously).

See what @Coaster Lover wrote quoted here below. It's likely that in the SWResort, there will be very high level and very interactive elements for all who wish to participate with one or more storylines and a lot of improv. What was discussed at Celebration is a lite version of it. If you bang up the Falcon, you might hear an audio from Han Solo complaining. If you do the escape ride, your restaurant server may warn you that you're being hunted by Troopers.

Disneyland has already tried/done this in a "beta" mode with "Legends of Frontierland":

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...nd-gold-rush-begins-today-at-disneyland-park/

Now, with hindsight being 20:20, it would appear that Legends of Frontierland was really just a beta test for Star Wars Land as we are hearing that guests in Star Wars land will have similar interactivity with the land and (if the resort actually happens), it would appear that the resort would be a further extension of that "feature". I can only imagine that with Magic Bands, the amount they could allow you to "build" your character (by the system remembering who you interact with, what rides you go on, etc), they could really build an amazingly interactive world...

I am wondering what ot could possibly look like? Would it look like Spaceship Earth and be a round hotel on pillar stilts, like Epcot SSE? or would it look like a more Star War-sy looking fighter ship? I think the Starship Ball would be more appropriate, but may be too close to Epcot! to place another BALL. If you buy into the 2 night package, are you limited to staying in SW land or wondering the park as a guest who enters the park on Hollywood Blvd!? Just wondering...but it does sound really enticing...and I am NOT a Star Wars fan!

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"future use area" ;)

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Kamikaze

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Do you think the Poly or the CR deserve a $500 rate? They get it because of either theming and/or the monorail. Their rooms aren't unique or special. The half of CBR that is being redeveloped is being removed. You have a new tower with a gondola stop. This could easily command a deluxe resort rate and most likely will with or without a Star Wars overlay.

I didn't mention rooms. If you're comparing just a normal studio room, they are basically the same everywhere. But Deluxes do have other differences than the monorail.

CBR Tower is going to be DVC. Thats a different level than Deluxe. The question is are they going to put more amenities into that tower. I would guess not, because they wouldn't be doing the huge refurb of Old Port Royale otherwise. If they were going to make the tower a SW-themed hotel, it would need to be completely separate from CBR.
 
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