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star tours

magicjay1989

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Original Poster
the robots in the que line for star tour in the second room are
what the insides of the ducks on splash mountain. If you look at there feet there webed
 

StuntDoomBuggy

New Member
hmm, didnt notice that.. but i noticed this:

right before you go to the loading docks, close by the robot w/ the computer and LCD panel, look above you and you see robotic crows, these are the crows from haunted mansion, just with it's feathered skin plucked off (notetice the red eyes)..


PS: just want to know, is there more retired animatronics in star tours.. oh, and whats on ST's dark bottom floor?
 

isnet396

New Member
Originally posted by StuntDoomBuggy
.. oh, and whats on ST's dark bottom floor?

I'm going to guess that you mean the floor as you exit the pod.

That's basically ride maintenance area, where the pods get serviced, i think the RCC is there too, but i'm not sure. I believe you can go to the floor of Body Wars if you take the Undiscovered Future world tour, or something like that.
 

colliera

Member
Floor/ramp

The "floor" as you enter/exit the pod is actually a ramp that swings up and out of the way of the pod when it's doors are closed off. This is so the pod can make it's moves as the ride simulation plays out. The pod is supported by six hydraulic arms which together produce the pitch, yaw, and limited roll. It's fairly amazing how much space the pods needs to complete its moves and it can change directions quickly and reposition itself in location changes of about fifteen feet at a time.

On the Backstage Magic tour you actually enter the "room" (painted black) where one of the pods is housed. Once the guests are loaded and the ride starts the work lights are turned on and you can watch it go through its gyrations.

Another interesting thing about the pods is the show film is a continious loop that is threaded back and forth across the bottom of the pod. That way when the ride is completed the film is already in the start position for the next ride eliminating the need to rewind the film.
 

A Kind Of Magic

New Member
George Lucas Doing Epcot Movies?

As far as I know Epcot Center's Universe of Energy hosted by Exxon has been made into a movie with George Lucas and Eddie Murphy riding it.

There was also a shoot out climatic ending on Exxon's Universe of Energy.

The name of this movie always escapes me.

Would anyone know the name of this movie?
 

Dean[AU]

New Member
Im pretty sure the video, audio and motion are all controlled by a computer :)
Hence No need to Rewind


BTW: The computer your using right now could probily control Star Tours :)
 

colliera

Member
Computing Power

No doubt the computing power for some of these rides is amazingly low tech by today's standards.

I'm not saying the motion and film playback isn't controlled/monitored by computer. Without proper visual/motion sync the puke factor goes way up. But the show film looped back and forth across the bottom of the pod was the most surprising thing. The fact that it wans't a video projection - and that the film loop was totally exposed. You'd think they would want to keep the film in a cleaner enviroment. The CM on the tour explained they wanted easy access to the film should a break occur.

Speaking of low computing power. Also on Backstage Magic you will get to parade control. VERY small and narrow room. All run by a single CM. Usually runs fine on it's own by computer but the CM is there to deal with the unexpected. All audio was on EPROM chips as was sounds/music for other rides down in the computer control center. I believe they were just beginning to switch over to flash memory technology (this was about six years ago). The CM asked how much RAM our group members had on our home computers, 32MB-most hands in the group up, 64MB-some hands when down, 128MB-all hands down except mine. He kept going up and finally stoped and asked, "Well just how much DO you have?" 512MB I replied. Turns out that's how much they use to run the parades.

They watch the parade movement on a screen that tracks the floats with sensors imbedded in the streets, (usually that spot that looks like a wad of grey/blackish gum). The CM had to tell the Cinderella float to slow down, "Cinderella always gets too far ahead of the rest of the parade." he said. There are also cameras mounted on buildings around the parade route, (top of train station near the flags, on the castle, ect.) The cameras can pan, tilt, and zoom. Someone in the group asked if the CM could show the Main Street view from the castle. "I'll try, sometimes the camera gets stuck in that position so I don't try to look that way often." he said. "See the Genie's head on the Aladdin float just sitting there? When you just see just the head it means the wind is too high to inflate the body."

While Animal Kingdom didn't have a parade at all back then he told us that all parades were controled from that tiny room, Magic Kingdom, Disney-MGM, and Epcot.

Since this is the Secrets forum I"ll assume the younger kids aren't lurking here. If so be warned character spoiler follows . . .






XXXXX WARNING CHARACTER SPOILER BELOW XXXXXXXX

During the parade we where watching there was a minor emergency. A CM on the street noticed that Tigger was unzipped in the back. They called in to parade control so a message to tell Tigger not to get off the float when it stopped had to be relayed.
 

Dean[AU]

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For the motion sim iam talking about one of these:
http://www.watervilleusa.com/pics/motion.jpg

I wish i could get a pic, but i went to a tiny museum over the holidays, as a budding CM i asked if i could start the ride. All it is is a normal computer with a PCI card plugged in the back. The Start Button - just like the Reply button im gonna press any minute. Amazing. The Video of the ride was shown in a lil Windows Media Player screen, along with the pits yaw and angle of the ride

BTW: I keeped talking to him for a while, ended up talking about WDW, Hes always ment to go but hever has :(. Anyway during my chat, the hydrolics on one ride did not start up, nothing a restart of the ride wouldnt fix
 

Dean[AU]

New Member
Re: Computing Power

Originally posted by colliera
They watch the parade movement on a screen that tracks the floats with sensors imbedded in the streets.

That screen was shown on the Travel Channel Special :)
 

Sweetums

Member
Originally posted by magicjay1989
the robots in the que line for star tour in the second room are
what the insides of the ducks on splash mountain. If you look at there feet there webed

Yep--Geese, actually. And if memory serves, the robots are named "G" something or other (G-2 or G-4), the "G" standing for goose.
 

isnet396

New Member
Originally posted by Dean[AU]
Im pretty sure the video, audio and motion are all controlled by a computer :)
Hence No need to Rewind


BTW: The computer your using right now could probily control Star Tours :)

They're controlled by one, but it's not projected using a DLP or anything. It's 70mm film, to my knowledge.
 

isnet396

New Member
Originally posted by Dean[AU]
For the motion sim iam talking about one of these:
http://www.watervilleusa.com/pics/motion.jpg

I wish i could get a pic, but i went to a tiny museum over the holidays, as a budding CM i asked if i could start the ride. All it is is a normal computer with a PCI card plugged in the back. The Start Button - just like the Reply button im gonna press any minute. Amazing. The Video of the ride was shown in a lil Windows Media Player screen, along with the pits yaw and angle of the ride

BTW: I keeped talking to him for a while, ended up talking about WDW, Hes always ment to go but hever has :(. Anyway during my chat, the hydrolics on one ride did not start up, nothing a restart of the ride wouldnt fix

I take it that you're speaking about the simulator in that link. WDW's simulator tech is a bit more 'industrial', not to mention the fact that Windows Media wasn't around in 1989...
 

RogueHabit

Well-Known Member
Re: Re: star tours

Originally posted by Sweetums
Yep--Geese, actually. And if memory serves, the robots are named "G" something or other (G-2 or G-4), the "G" standing for goose.
Yep, there's a G-2 & a G-4 droid. You can buy SW Figure versions of them in Tatooine Traders. :)
 

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