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Star Tours Question
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CoffeeJedi
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Thrawn, there's another source that includes a Rebel pilot commenting on the destruction of DSII at Endor, and saying that he heard a droid's voice call out "I've always wanted to do this". Unfortunately, there's no single EU gatekeeper to keep it all straight. And George disregards all EU continuity unless it achieves something specific for him, or is so widely accepted (Coruscant) that he's forced to include it.
this whole thing would be so much easier if they just used the half-built RotJ Death Star!
a problem with it being set during the Imperial Era, is that we're contacted by an X-Wing pilot who tells us its a restricted area. The Rebels have no political or governing power, they're freedom fighters. it would have been an Imperial officer who contacts us. that's why i think it fits better as a post-RotJ New Republic story, as that's who contacts us and who we side with.
to put it in Earth terms, can you imagine a 747 full of travelers entering an air battle and firing at the legitimate government's military?
gah! MY HEAD A-SPLODE! i think this guy puts it nicely however:
http://www.geocities.com/mike_beidler/starwarsliteraturecompendium/intro.html
this whole thing would be so much easier if they just used the half-built RotJ Death Star!
a problem with it being set during the Imperial Era, is that we're contacted by an X-Wing pilot who tells us its a restricted area. The Rebels have no political or governing power, they're freedom fighters. it would have been an Imperial officer who contacts us. that's why i think it fits better as a post-RotJ New Republic story, as that's who contacts us and who we side with.
to put it in Earth terms, can you imagine a 747 full of travelers entering an air battle and firing at the legitimate government's military?
gah! MY HEAD A-SPLODE! i think this guy puts it nicely however:
http://www.geocities.com/mike_beidler/starwarsliteraturecompendium/intro.html
come... join the Dark Side....... :drevil:lownalo said:
CommandoDisney
Member
wait wait wait...... anakin.... becomes darth vader?!! i didnt see that coming!!!
but seriously, wait, do we fly to endor or the endor moon? and in return of the jedi are they on endor or just its moon. i always thought it was endor but it sounds like it was just the moon.... sorry im only a mild star wars fan and not too familiar with the EU
but seriously, wait, do we fly to endor or the endor moon? and in return of the jedi are they on endor or just its moon. i always thought it was endor but it sounds like it was just the moon.... sorry im only a mild star wars fan and not too familiar with the EU
Hence the reason I said "complete it"Thrawn said:
CoffeeJedi
Active Member
can i just say, that i love this thread?
where else can i get this unashamedly geeky about Star Wars AND Disney?
man, i love the internet, such a wonderfull communication tool of our age
where else can i get this unashamedly geeky about Star Wars AND Disney?
man, i love the internet, such a wonderfull communication tool of our age
Some of us have realized that...others have not :brick:Salty- said:I thought us Star Wars fans resolved ourselves that the Star Wars Universe is just one giant Plot Hole.
(A plot hole is what on the other side of a black hole if one were to traverse it)
CoffeeJedi said:
I think the quote from that pilot is in Tales from Jabba's Palace. I remember a while back that the crew at TF.N came to the majority opinion that the whole thing is an Infinities-type storyline that had the Star Tours DS as the completed version of DSII. It's all EU and it really doesn't fit the continuity.
The Lucas engineers messed up by not considering this. They could have either:
1.) used a partially-completed Death Star (setting it during ROTJ);
2.) had the mission occur near Yavin IV (from the original film).
Either way, Star Tours's shuttle being involved in the destruction of a DS kind of ruins the films' storylines, so it can all be dismissed as a sort of dream sequence.
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the first EU material was the Thrawn Trilogy that came out in 1992 but wasn't Star Tours opened prior to that? If that is the case then technically Star Tours is the first EU material and all other EU material would have to conform to it.
browniebee
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Cmdr_Crimson said:
Technically it would be from Episode 4 or 6, as there was no Death Star in ESB (Ep5). Since they blow up the completed Death Star the way Luke Skywalker does in ANH (Ep4), I would say the Death Star blown up in Star Tours is from Episode 4. Although, they do mention the Endor Moon which is not mentioned until Episode 6:RotJ. Man, I hate plot-holes! :lol:
Master Yoda said:
I'm not sure about release dates, but chronology of release doesn't provide any value to the importance of EU material. This gets into that dicey realm of canon-official-nonofficial continuity that the people at LucasFilms do actual pay a certain amount of attention to, rank the importance of, and set forth accordingly. Unfortunately, they are not always forthcoming with that info.
And the first EU stuff would ahve been the Han Solo Trilogy or Splinter of the Mind's Eye. I suppose the Thrawn stuff was the first post-ROTJ EU stuff.
On a side not, continuity came up in a discussion of the Journal of the Whills. Basically, and this is according to Lucas himself, the entire SW saga is being retold by R2-D2 to a galactic recordkeeper 100 years after the events at Endor. What we see in the films are the events as told by R2 that were recorded into the Journal of the Whills (the official history of that galaxy). EU stuff would fall into a category of "epic poem", wheth stories told from person to person, perhaps embellished as it is retold. And anything non-official (and Star Tours is probably in this category) would be a sort of urban legend that could never be really verified or refuted.
CoffeeJedi
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this guy has some ideas:
http://www.swstartours.net/aspbite/articles/index.asp?intCatID=100
http://www.swstartours.net/aspbite/articles/index.asp?intCatID=100
CoffeeJedi said:
That explains it pretty well. I'd vote for that as a legit explanation, especially since it doesn't have to solve any pesky continuity problems involving partially-completed Death Stars, the whereabouts of Skywalker or Calrissian, or anything else from the films.
I think chronology of release dates would play a big role in the value of it. If we assume that all the stuff released so far is valid than story that contradicted facts present in an earlier released story than the information in the newer story could be construed as untrue or invalid. But then we run into the problem that Lucas will contradict any information in the EU if he feels the need. One of the biggest contradictions I know of is the version of Kashyyyk in ROTS and the version in KOTOR and the Thrawn trilogy.bouj said:
The word would be "geek" and I take no offense to it.Connor002 said:
Since1976
Well-Known Member
All this Death Star talk is fine and good, but can anyone explain at which point in the STAR WARS timeline Mickey Mouse became a Jedi?
http://www.nyline.org/channels/2005/news/Jedi%20Mickey2.jpg
http://www.mousepal.com/ParkPics/Jedi%20Mickey%20Star%20Wars%20weekend.jpg
I believe he became a Jedi some time after the third Mandalorian War, but others would argue that this would invalidate Amanaman's relationship to Ponda Baba's cousin by marriage to Dr. Evazan's grandmother.
http://www.nyline.org/channels/2005/news/Jedi%20Mickey2.jpg
http://www.mousepal.com/ParkPics/Jedi%20Mickey%20Star%20Wars%20weekend.jpg
I believe he became a Jedi some time after the third Mandalorian War, but others would argue that this would invalidate Amanaman's relationship to Ponda Baba's cousin by marriage to Dr. Evazan's grandmother.