SPOILERS: Star Wars' ANDOR Seasons 1 & 2

[Phroobar]

I agree the sound balance was not good. I always leave the closed captions on. I'm not sure if the attempted rape scene fits Star Wars but at least she fought back well and put them in a dangerous position for Cas to save the day. I know it happens in war and this show is more adult so it fits. I like Bix much more now. Mon Mothma is a really sad character. She has to deal with an for a husband and sold off her daughter for money to fund the rebellion. I liked the wedding though.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I agree the sound balance was not good. I always leave the closed captions on. I'm not sure if the attempted rape scene fits Star Wars but at least she fought back well and put them in a dangerous position for Cas to save the day. I know it happens in war and this show is more adult so it fits. I like Bix much more now. Mon Mothma is a really sad character. She has to deal with an for a husband and sold off her daughter for money to fund the rebellion. I liked the wedding though.

Mon did give her daughter an out by telling her she can leave her arranged fiance at the altar. If her daughter did this, it would definitely endanger Mon's standing with the crime boss who is funding her cover-up of funding the rebellion. So, that was brave on Mon's part and a sign of love of her daughter.

But then her daughter made it real easy for Mon to let her go.

 

[flynnibus]

Wifey would tell me "You'll wake up the kids, turn it down!" In such a dialogue heavy-show, it became really difficult to follow.

Accept old age and just turn on CC

 

[Phroobar]

Mon did give her daughter an out by telling her she can leave her arranged fiance at the altar. If her daughter did this, it would definitely endanger Mon's standing with the crime boss who is funding her cover-up of funding the rebellion. So, that was brave on Mon's part and a sign of love of her daughter.

But then her daughter made it real easy for Mon to let her go.

Did the daughter understand why Mon was doing it? I might have missed that in the whispering. I believe she did it out of love for her mom. She understood that is just the way things work in "royal" society. Got 'a admit, the whole wedding was amazing to watch.

 

[flynnibus]

While I really love the cinematic quality of Andor.. and the grit type it's trying to expose what life in the empire before the rebellion was like.. I do feel it gets wonky at times.

The whole Wedding thing was ridiculously over the top - the kind of stuff that would always find the cutting room floor if someone were working on a runtime limit.

If the brix group were supposed to be traveling mechanics not assigned to just one station/group... how would 'counting visas' expose them as unaccounted for?

We've seen tons of tie fighter controls through the star wars universe... both before and after this point in the timeline. Why does this Tie Advanced have something completely off in lineage for controls?

Tie Fighters have always been portrayed as lightweight, almost delicate. They were a throwback to the zero.. where armor and power are given up to gain speed and agility. Yet here, we keep showing the ship as if it can be treated like a rag doll w/o consequence. This is a crutch they keep using in the stories of late that is getting tiresome (falcon is basically indestructible... the stuff in skeleton crew.. etc)

I can't tell if the slow mo of the stormtrooper being the one to get the kill shot on the guy on the speeder was meant to be sarcastic? ironic? Was really confusing on what emotion they were trying to project there.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Did the daughter understand why Mon was doing it? I might have missed that in the whispering. I believe she did it out of love for her mom. She understood that is just the way things work in "royal" society. Got 'a admit, the whole wedding was amazing to watch.

No, the daughter has been a jerk. She was deep into her culture's religious conservative movement. So, she had no problem with a traditional arranged marriage (until her fiance wound up being even more conservative and refused any PDAs). Their cultural differences led to a distancing between them.

It is based on her daughter's distress over her fiance's rejection of PDA that Mon offered her this out, explaining she was also forced into an arranged marriage by her mother, who was drunk on the day of her wedding.

And her daughter, who was recently enjoying her mother's soothing over her fiance's distancing, decided to just go off on her mom.

Kids. Amiright?

 

[flynnibus]

Did the daughter understand why Mon was doing it? I might have missed that in the whispering. I believe she did it out of love for her mom. She understood that is just the way things work in "royal" society.

Didn't seem to be anything but the classic princess trope... the kid is forced to do things for the family stature/traditions/etc but doesn't want to... and is confused to their obligations vs personal emotions.

The final interaction between them seems to be more about spite and resentment... and the kid rejecting Mon's attempted retreat. There doesn't seem to be anything about the kid knowing anything about Mon's cloak and dagger stuff. Just usual kid in blue blood hierarchy stuff.

 

[Phroobar]

No, the daughter has been a jerk. She was deep into her culture's religious conservative movement. So, she had no problem with a traditional arranged marriage (until her fiance wound up being even more conservative and refused any PDAs). Their cultural differences led to a distancing between them.

It is based on her daughter's distress over her fiance's rejection of PDA that Mon offered her this out, explaining she was also forced into an arranged marriage by her mother, who was drunk on the day of her wedding.

And her daughter, who was recently enjoying her mother's soothing over her fiance's distancing, decided to just go off on her mom.

Kids. Amiright?

That makes sense. I missed that with all of the whispering. Besides every time, Mon comes on screen, I kind of zone out. I see the pictures but not comprehending it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Most of those you claim to be always positive about something by Disney is incorrect…. The difference is most of us so called “apologists” watch said media before being critical as we hope for the best

….ehhh…there’s a consistent dusty puff from a lot…we are what we are

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

I spread this out over three nights to savor it.

So damn good. And wow is it a gorgeous show. The money is all onscreen.

If season one was House of Cards meets Les Miserables, these episodes had a weirdly Star Trek meets Game of Thrones feel to me - probably the alien wedding stuff - but I'm still loving it, in all of its darker and lighter moments. It's the strangest thing that I'm constantly on edge watching it even though I know how it all ends!

I was thrilled when Cassian couldn't easily fly a ship he'd never been in before. Hallelujah. Unlike a certain person with virtually no experience instantly skillfully flying the Falcon... for example.

B2EMO has totally grown on me this season. That name tho'. But Cassian better darn well go back for the puppy-bot!

 

[Phroobar]

I was thrilled when Cassian couldn't easily fly a ship he'd never been in before. Hallelujah. Unlike a certain person with virtually no experience instantly skillfully flying the Falcon... for example.

That's because Cassian is a man.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Not sure if this was posted yet here or not but I thought it was an interesting article on the creative process:

‘Andor’ Architect Tony Gilroy Talks Series Budget, Teaming With Brothers & How He “Divorced” Himself From Show During WGA Strike

Deadline interview with 'Andor' creator Tony Gilroy about Season 2 of the Star Wars series.

deadline.com

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

I like Chris Gore, but that's not saying much. The Mandalorian's first 2 seasons, maybe the only good thing to come from D+.

Andor is miles better than Mando ever was. This is some of the best Star Wars stuff we’ve ever gotten.

 

[Phroobar]

Andor is miles better than Mando ever was. This is some of the best Star Wars stuff we’ve ever gotten.

I'm just hoping it gets better and I hear it will. These three episodes were weak.

 

[DKampy]

If anyone follows Chris Gore, he had an interesting take. He did not like the first season of Andor. He did not like the first three episodes of season II. But he's seen the rest of the season, and reports it was some of the best Star Wars content he's watched in years, even if it has a very different feel from what we expect of Star Wars. He liked it so much that he now retrospectively enjoys season I much better now that he knew what it was leading to.

IMO….ever since he has aligned himself with the Disney raging YouTubers Gore is not a trustworthy critic…. A good Critic should leave all baggage at the door and just give an unbiased review about what was watched.. he seems predispose to search for any reasons to dislike anything Disney puts out…For example…. A critic may not care for or search out a horror film in their own time.. But their job could still require them to watch horror films….I would hope they would review the film on it”s own merits within the genre

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I guess it’s too much to ask to have an appearance by McDiarmid where he interacts with Genevieve o Reilly?

I feel like that needed to happen

 

[HoustonHorn]

I'm just hoping it gets better and I hear it will. These three episodes were weak.

I found 4 and 5 just as dull. Maybe it jumps off at 6?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I found 4 and 5 just as dull. Maybe it jumps off at 6?

Liked 1-3

4 and 5 were definitely kinda dull

Haven’t watched 6 yet

 

[Phroobar]

What I said for the first season still applies in the second. This show could be any sci-fi spy show. There isn't a lot of Star Wars in it. 4&5 are still kinda slow. I still don't see how this leads into Rogue One.

I keep waiting for Syril to go Norman Bates on everyone.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What I said for the first season still applies in the second. This show could be any sci-fi spy show. There isn't a lot of Star Wars in it. 4&5 are still kinda slow. I still don't see how this leads into Rogue One.

I keep waiting for Syril to go Norman Bates on everyone.

Syril is going nowhere

The total weak link of the show