SPOILERS: Star Wars' ANDOR Seasons 1 & 2

[Phroobar]

Of course they can win. Mando was a win and so was Rogue one. The vast majority of people are extremely happy with them. Baby yoda was the biggest thing in star wars since the OT. Tell good stories and people will enjoy them.

Mando was a win because it followed the classic Japanese RPG where Mando had a quest but had to do a series of side quests to get to his ultimate goal. Each episode was a quest with an end boss. Baby Yoda was just a gimmick that just happen to take off.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

But we don't care about Mon Mothma keeping up appearances. That is about as boring as the Senate scenes in the prequels.
Star Wars has thrilling dog fights, action, war strategies and Jedi/Sith. This is a lot of people talking but not acting.

You don't care but some people might.

A Star Wars TV show is always going to smaller in scale than a movie, so there's generally going to be less action and more talking. It's a new format for the franchise and seeing a different piece of the Star Wars story has value.

 

[erasure fan1]

Mando was a win because it followed the classic Japanese RPG where Mando had a quest but had to do a series of side quests to get to his ultimate goal. Each episode was a quest with an end boss. Baby Yoda was just a gimmick that just happen to take off.

Mando had everything people wanted in a star wars show. A mix of old and new, action and adventure with cool characters. I think calling baby yoda a gimmick is selling it a bit short. If done wrong, it could have been awful. But the mando/grogu relationship was perfect. If you told me before the show came out that it would have a baby yoda in it. I would have said that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But Jon knocked it out of the park.

 

[doctornick]

Mando was a win because it followed the classic Japanese RPG where Mando had a quest but had to do a series of side quests to get to his ultimate goal. Each episode was a quest with an end boss. Baby Yoda was just a gimmick that just happen to take off.

Right. The Mandalorian actually used an episodic TV format and was much better off for it. The other SW and Marvel shows on D+ have largely felt like long movies they just arbitrarily cut up into parts (though I will give a shout out to She Hulk which also has done great with its episodes). I don’t really understand it because it isn’t like Disney has never made TV shows before.

 

[Phroobar]

Mandalorian was a success, because there wasn't a complete idiot behind the wheel. JJ "Bad Reboot", Ruin Johnson and Kathleen "put my name on it honey" are the 3 Stooges of Star Wars.

I guess Rodriguez would have to be the Shemp of the group after what he did to poor Boba Fett.

He should stick to his grindhouse spy kids.

However Bryce Dallas Howard isn't a bad director. I enjoyed her episodes.

 

[Phroobar]

I gotta admit that looked pretty good. I'm definitely a Star Wars nerd because the sight of blue milk gets me excited.

Hands down the best part of the episode.

Then he gets nagged by his Jewish mother. Poor Andor.
Andor's sister must be a Druish Princess.

 

[Disney Irish]

Then he gets nagged by his Jewish mother. Poor Andor.
Andor's sister must be a Druish Princess.

Who are you talking about? Because that wasn't Andor getting nagged.

 

[tcool123]

Mmm, mint chocolate Cocoa Puffs cereal.

Is that a real think that sounds really good actually

 

[tcool123]

Then he gets nagged by his Jewish mother. Poor Andor.
Andor's sister must be a Druish Princess.

Who are you talking about? Because that wasn't Andor getting nagged.

Thats the security officer that got fired by Imperials due to the whole failure of catching Andor.

 

[sedati]

But we don't care about Mon Mothma keeping up appearances. That is about as boring as the Senate scenes in the prequels.
Star Wars has thrilling dog fights, action, war strategies and Jedi/Sith. This is a lot of people talking but not acting.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Haven’t gotten a chance to watch yet…

How is it?

 

[sedati]

Right. The Mandalorian actually used an episodic TV format and was much better off for it.

And there were people who complained about the episodes being to episodic and not seeming connected enough.

We're getting variety. It's nice.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I'm out, it's a beautiful looking show, but there's nothing going on and it just seems like a talkfest. This just isn't for me,

Well, you gave it a try, good for you!

I gotta admit that looked pretty good. I'm definitely a Star Wars nerd because the sight of blue milk gets me excited.

Hands down the best part of the episode.

Mandalorian was a success, because there wasn't a complete idiot behind the wheel. JJ "Bad Reboot", Ruin Johnson and Kathleen "put my name on it honey" are the 3 Stooges of Star Wars.

I guess Rodriguez would have to be the Shemp of the group after what he did to poor Boba Fett.

Well you're not really out, are you?

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Continuing to enjoy the show. It's a slow burn but still keeping me engaged. I didn't think I wanted an OT prequel (RO), much less a prequel to the prequel, but both have been parts of the franchise I've liked most.

I'm quite content to stick with this. It holds my interest. It's very Les Mis. The haves and the have-nots. The plots, hopes and fears. The dreamers and the exploiters and those just trying to live their lives as best they can get by...

I always enjoy Stellan, but Genevieve O'Reilly is really magnificent in this, too. I'm captivated every moment she's onscreen. Her fabulous wardrobe helps of course!

 

[Phroobar]

Who are you talking about? Because that wasn't Andor getting nagged.

Oh ya, that's right. It was that want a be Imperial. The blueberry cop.

 

[doctornick]

And there were people who complained about the episodes being to episodic and not seeming connected enough.

We're getting variety. It's nice.

Then they should be doing a full season dump on one day if they want it to be a long movie chopped into segments. Let people binge instead of drip dripping episodes that aren't whole.

I don't think Andor is the worse offender of this, but it's definitely an issue for the Marvel/Star Wars shows on D+. And it's entirely possible to have a TV show that has a connected season long plot but also have the individual episodes feel complete. I just think Disney will need to better execute these shows if they want to maintain viewership and subscriptions.

 

[doctornick]

Then he gets nagged by his Jewish mother. Poor Andor.
Andor's sister must be a Druish Princess.

I will say the home life seen for the disgraced officer seems odd and pointless. Obviously he will have some role later in the series and so they want to establish his fall from grace, but IMHO they are spending way too much time and detail on it. Feels like they could have just kept when he arrived at the house door and got slapped and had his mom say a few words about him being a disappointment then and it would have been enough; maybe another very brief scene showing him looking for work when his mom says she called in a favor with the uncle if that is a needed plot element.

But I'm sorry, I just don't care enough about this generic imperial character to see the show delve so much into him. Considering they are also jumping between Mon Mothma, Luthen, and the Imperial security folks, the scenes for this scrub just seems too much.

 

[Phroobar]

I will say the home life seen for the disgraced officer seems odd and pointless. Obviously he will have some role later in the series and so they want to establish his fall from grace, but IMHO they are spending way too much time and detail on it. Feels like they could have just kept when he arrived at the house door and got slapped and had his mom say a few words about him being a disappointment then and it would have been enough; maybe another very brief scene showing him looking for work when his mom says she called in a favor with the uncle if that is a needed plot element.

But I'm sorry, I just don't care enough about this generic imperial character to see the show delve so much into him. Considering they are also jumping between Mon Mothma, Luthen, and the Imperial security folks, the scenes for this scrub just seems too much.

They all feel pointless. Luthen's scenes might have some merit as he pulls Andor's strings but we haven't seen it yet. I'm just waiting for the scene were one of the girls saves Andor's butt in the end. It still doesn't feel like Star Wars. It feels like some random scifi show.

My guess is the heist will review the names of the engineers who are building the Death Star and give Andor Jyn Erso's current location. He will probably stumble over it.

 

[erasure fan1]

Haven’t gotten a chance to watch yet…

How is it?

It's been exactly the same as the first 4 episodes really.

 

[Screamface]

Then they should be doing a full season dump on one day if they want it to be a long movie chopped into segments. Let people binge instead of drip dripping episodes that aren't whole.

I don't think Andor is the worse offender of this, but it's definitely an issue for the Marvel/Star Wars shows on D+. And it's entirely possible to have a TV show that has a connected season long plot but also have the individual episodes feel complete. I just think Disney will need to better execute these shows if they want to maintain viewership and subscriptions.

Apparently, Andor was written in three episode blocks. If this is the case, then it should have just been released as such. Why do those blocks need to be broken into episodes?

I think they're still trying to figure out how to approach these styles of streaming shows.

With Andor's slow burn, it at least keeps building and progressing.

Rings of Power is slow but needlessly slow. It likes to establish where the plot is going. Then it sets up a bunch of road blocks and conflicts to prevent it going there. Wastes a couple of episodes getting through them. Then just goes there. It's all so pointless.

Andor just keeps building on a path. Would I have liked the hiest this week, yep. It didn't get there, but still gave us stuff heading and prepping for it. Building.