SPOILERS: Star Wars' ANDOR Seasons 1 & 2

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Continuing to enjoy the show though again the episode seemed to just stop rather than come to an end. Seems a creative choice at this point.

Stellan keeps being stellar!

But wow does this show look expensive gorgeous expensive! lol It's nice to see something where you aren't constantly aware of budget restraints and so much looks practical rather than CG!

 

[erasure fan1]

But wow does this show look expensive gorgeous expensive! lol It's nice to see something where you aren't constantly aware of budget restraints and so much looks practical rather than CG!

It's the best looking D+ show so far. But to be fair, we haven't really seen any huge action scenes that would need extensive special effects yet. So hopefully they didn't blow the budget all on the practical sets. That way we hopefully don't see a terrible Vespa scooter chase like in Fett.

 

[erasure fan1]

Wow, another really slow episode. I'm really surprised they didn't get into the heist this episode. I really wonder if people are sticking around for this. It seems like it wouldn't be all hat interesting to the casual fan.

 

[doctornick]

Wow, another really slow episode. I'm really surprised they didn't get into the heist this episode. I really wonder if people are sticking around for this. It seems like it wouldn't be all hat interesting to the casual fan.

Yeah, I am pretty surprised that heist didn't occur. There's too much talking and not enough action going on; I was pretty cool with the intro of Andor to the group last episode and the distrust but don't need a whole another episode about it.

Also, we don't really need so much exposition about how the Empire is bad. We already know, they are the bad guys, no one is questioning it or needs more justification. Let's get to the good guys kicking butt.

 

[sedati]

Slow, yes- but I was fully engaged with every moment. Gorgeous show, deftly crafted. Certainly a series for those who never complained about the senate scenes in the prequels. Next week: pew-pew.

 

[erasure fan1]

Slow, yes- but I was fully engaged with every moment. Gorgeous show, deftly crafted. Certainly a series for those who never complained about the senate scenes in the prequels. Next week: pew-pew.

If you're a big fan of Star wars, I have no doubt most of those people are engaged in the show. I just wonder what the average Joe casual fan thinks. What has happened so far really didn't need more than two episodes. I think most were hoping to see Cassian on cool super secret spy missions. That might still happen, they're just taking the long way to get there.

I really think Disney is struggling to figure out the TV game. They just can't seem to strike a balance with anything. Maybe they need to talk to James Gunn, he seemed to figure it out with peacemaker. So far that show is better than all of the D+ shows except Mando. I'd put both of them at the same level.

 

[Screamface]

Wow, another really slow episode. I'm really surprised they didn't get into the heist this episode. I really wonder if people are sticking around for this. It seems like it wouldn't be all hat interesting to the casual fan.

I'm telling people to wait until the complete season drops.

I am liking it, but it was pretty early on in this episode where I was like, "yeah, the heist will not be this week" and that was a disappointing realisation.

It really feels like a show written to be dropped at once and binged. Which is a criticism I have of a lot of writing with weekly shows now. They aren't complete or individual episodes.

From one review channel, they said a few weeks ago episodes 5 and 6 were great. I assume for them they were given access to both episodes to watch at once.

The Mon Mothra home life is so strange, I like it but don't know what to think of it.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I like Star Wars, a casual fan if anything.

Really enjoying this so far. It has a different vibe to it, and looks really great.

Excited to continue watching this play out.

I don’t mind exposition, or slower episodes, as it usually all builds to something.

Sometimes you need to wait, and take a show as the whole entire piece (once you’ve seen it all).

This may be hard for those used to the binge model where you get pay off sooner, as you can watch all the episodes in a day or two.

 

[Indy_UK]

In a 12 episode series, im fine with the slower episodes as long as they lead to something great and I think it will this series. Where it's also based on the formation of the rebellion which is such an important part of the overall story in Star Wars, im fine with them taking there time on it

 

[doctornick]

In a 12 episode series, im fine with the slower episodes as long as they lead to something great and I think it will this series. Where it's also based on the formation of the rebellion which is such an important part of the overall story in Star Wars, im fine with them taking there time on it

Meh. I think there is sometimes too much effort going into backstory or “filling in the gaps” with franchises. Big Star Wars fan but I don’t really need to know or see how the Rebellion developed (nor did I care about seeing how the Death Star plans were acquired). I mean, it’s okay to have that information shown but it’s more important to have an engaging interesting story than going out of the way to provide background. Right now Andir is too much exposition and not enough action; hope that changes soon.

 

[erasure fan1]

In a 12 episode series, im fine with the slower episodes as long as they lead to something great and I think it will this series. Where it's also based on the formation of the rebellion which is such an important part of the overall story in Star Wars, im fine with them taking there time on it

Yes, it has to have a great payoff for sure. Something Disney has really had problems accomplishing. Mando did a great job of sticking the landing in both season. Everything else, not so much. This show will determine if I keep D+ going, or if I jump ship and just wait until a couple things are completely out that I want to see. And then re-activate, binge what I want, then cancel until the next batch.

 

[Phroobar]

I'm out, it's a beautiful looking show, but there's nothing going on and it just seems like a talkfest. This just isn't for me, maybe it is for someone else though. More power to them, I hope they enjoy it.

I just don't want to watch a Soap Opera, with people bickering to their family members over breakfast.

Mmm, mint chocolate Cocoa Puffs cereal.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I'm good with a slower paced show that reveals the nuts and bolts when it comes to the development of a rebellion.

It's okay to have a more realistic perspective, as opposed to something like Solo where the big plot point of building a Rebellion is Han steals valuable cargo in an action packed heist and then turns it over to help fund the organization, even though that's not where his character was at that point in time, but I digress.

I continue to wonder whether or not this was planned as a 10 episode series, given how episodes seem to just end rather than have a natural conclusion. It's almost as if they planned it as more of a mini-series, with three or four 90ish minute installments but then changed it to give it more "value".

Note they mentioned Jakku, for those who still think Disney is somehow planning to erase the sequel trilogy.

 

[Phroobar]

I'm good with a slower paced show that reveals the nuts and bolts when it comes to the development of a rebellion.

It's okay to have a more realistic perspective, as opposed to something like Solo where the big plot point of building a Rebellion is Han steals valuable cargo in an action packed heist and then turns it over to help fund the organization, even though that's not where his character was at that point in time, but I digress.

I continue to wonder whether or not this was planned as a 10 episode series, given how episodes seem to just end rather than have a natural conclusion. It's almost as if they planned it as more of a mini-series, with three or four 90ish minute installments but then changed it to give it more "value".

Note they mentioned Jakku, for those who still think Disney is somehow planning to erase the sequel trilogy.

The problem is they aren't showing the nuts & bolts of the development of the rebellion. You see Mon Mothma has family issues since she is never around. Guess what? She's a Senator. No wonder she doesn't have time to hang around her bratty teenager or prototype Obi Wan. You see Andor being recruited for a heist that no one really knows what for. There isn't even any espionage going on. The corporate security guys have been cut out of the picture entirely just because they let Andor escape. The Imperials seem to have no clue what is going on. At least there is real scenery.

Even the figure line for this show is pretty boring too and we don't even get them until Aug 2023!

 

[Disney Irish]

Meh. I think there is sometimes too much effort going into backstory or “filling in the gaps” with franchises. Big Star Wars fan but I don’t really need to know or see how the Rebellion developed (nor did I care about seeing how the Death Star plans were acquired). I mean, it’s okay to have that information shown but it’s more important to have an engaging interesting story than going out of the way to provide background. Right now Andir is too much exposition and not enough action; hope that changes soon.

Most of the big Star Wars fans I knew growing up in the late 70s and 80s watching the OT created their own backstories and adventures to fill-in the gaps before, between, and after the movies. And so LFL story teams are basically run by those same type of kids all grown up.

I realized a long time ago the issue that some who did the same growing up are having with anything released post-OT is that they are expecting that the stories would meet or exceed the ones they created in their head. And that will never happen, so those type of fans will always be disappointed and gripe about the latest offering. Not saying that is you, but might explain why some of the fandom has issues with the recent stuff.

 

[Phroobar]

Most of the big Star Wars fans I knew growing up in the late 70s and 80s watching the OT created their own backstories and adventures to fill-in the gaps before, between, and after the movies. And so LFL story teams are basically run by those same type of kids all grown up.

I realized a long time ago the issue that some who did the same growing up are having with anything released post-OT is that they are expecting that the stories would meet or exceed the ones they created in their head. And that will never happen, so those type of fans will always be disappointed and gripe about the latest offering. Not saying that is you, but might explain why some of the fandom has issues with the recent stuff.

You hit the nail on the head there. New content creators can never win.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

The problem is they aren't showing the nuts & bolts of the development of the rebellion. You see Mon Mothma has family issues since she is never around. Guess what? She's a Senator. No wonder she doesn't have time to hang around her bratty teenager or prototype Obi Wan. You see Andor being recruited for a heist that no one really knows what for. There isn't even any espionage going on. The corporate security guys have been cut out of the picture entirely just because they let Andor escape. The Imperials seem to have no clue what is going on. At least there is really scenery.

This misses, I think, the point of these scenes, which can be a bit subtle. Mon Mothma is trying to keep up appearances, and using her daughter as a prop as part of it. It's showing what she has do to and how it impacts her family. There's context to the family issues we are seeing.

The Imperials having no clue speaks to the reality of how difficult it might actually be to implement and manage a sweeping Galactic Empire, which speaks to how a Rebellion is able to form because of how hard it would be to track down and deal with all of these small groups scattered everywhere.

 

[erasure fan1]

Note they mentioned Jakku, for those who still think Disney is somehow planning to erase the sequel trilogy.

Not that I think they will erase the sequels, because I don't think they will. But the planets aren't what they would erase. Mentioning Jakku wouldn't be any indication even if they were. If Disney was going to try and do anything, it would be retconing some story elements using the world between worlds or something like that.

 

[erasure fan1]

You hit the nail on the head there. New content creators can never win.

Of course they can win. Mando was a win and so was Rogue one. The vast majority of people are extremely happy with them. Baby yoda was the biggest thing in star wars since the OT. Tell good stories and people will enjoy them.

 

[Phroobar]

This misses, I think, the point of these scenes, which can be a bit subtle. Mon Mothma is trying to keep up appearances, and using her daughter as a prop as part of it. It's showing what she has do to and how it impacts her family. There's context to the family issues we are seeing.

The Imperials having no clue speaks to the reality of how difficult it might actually be to implement and manage a sweeping Galactic Empire, which speaks to how a Rebellion is able to form because of how hard it would be to track down and deal with all of these small groups scattered everywhere.

But we don't care about Mon Mothma keeping up appearances. That is about as boring as the Senate scenes in the prequels.
Star Wars has thrilling dog fights, action, war strategies and Jedi/Sith. This is a lot of people talking but not acting.