SPOILERS: Snow White live action (March 21, 2025 release)

UberMouse

Active Member
My take after seeing it. I'll keep it simple without the politics.

  • CGI is really bad. I don't know what else to say about it. The poor quality really took me out of the story.
  • The added musical number at the end when they are all in white was worse than the clips I had seen before. Extremely cringe and out of place.
  • The Prince is basically a moron. Made no sense to me.
  • Rachel can indeed sing as everyone has stated. The OG songs are beautifully done.
  • Gal was fine. I get what everyone is saying about her singing not being on point, but it was the least of this films issues.
  • Back to the dwarves. They really missed on not hiring live actors. Even if they were wearing heavy prosthetic makeup. Completely defeated the purpose of live action for me. They seemed more like a cartoon to me. Again, it really took me out of the story at times.
 
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erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Her comments don’t bother me. It’s concerning that they bother anyone to a large degree.
All her comments? I think most would have let the, weird weird, stuff go. But then she jumped into a whole different end of the pool. So I can see why so many are bothered by so much of what she said. So many here were against Gina Carano and thought everything that happened to her was fair. But now we see the same group defending Zegler and saying it's not fair to her? That is what brings out this fight and defend mentality every time for either side.
 

UberMouse

Active Member
All her comments? I think most would have let the, weird weird, stuff go. But then she jumped into a whole different end of the pool. So I can see why so many are bothered by so much of what she said. So many here were against Gina Carano and thought everything that happened to her was fair. But now we see the same group defending Zegler and saying it's not fair to her? That is what brings out this fight and defend mentality every time for either side.

Nailed it!
 

Chi84

Premium Member
All her comments? I think most would have let the, weird weird, stuff go. But then she jumped into a whole different end of the pool. So I can see why so many are bothered by so much of what she said. So many here were against Gina Carano and thought everything that happened to her was fair. But now we see the same group defending Zegler and saying it's not fair to her? That is what brings out this fight and defend mentality every time for either side.
There are a good number of us (myself included) who don’t care what either of them said.
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
All her comments? I think most would have let the, weird weird, stuff go. But then she jumped into a whole different end of the pool. So I can see why so many are bothered by so much of what she said. So many here were against Gina Carano and thought everything that happened to her was fair. But now we see the same group defending Zegler and saying it's not fair to her? That is what brings out this fight and defend mentality every time for either side.
Two different situations…. People were arguing that Gina Carano should have never been fired because her first amendment rights were trampled on…, they were not…she can say whatever she wants…. But the first amendment protects Disney as well…, who as abusiness can decide that her views do not represents theirs

Anybody can voice whatever opinions they wish on Zeglers comments….. personally I think that her statements are being overblown by a certain side looking for reasons to hate on Disney…. But if you are truly offended by her comments feel free to show with your wallet and boycott Rachel Zegler Films… no one is saying you can’t
 
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erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
There are a good number of us (myself included) who don’t care what either of them said.
And that's a fair opinion to have. I will push back on the good number of us part. This sub forum alone shows the majority of people do care on both sides. I think a good number of people say that they don't care, until it doesn't agree with their opinions. Either way, regardless of how anyone thinks it should be. People will always judge based on what comes out of others mouth. Especially now. So if you know what you're saying is going to cause a problem, maybe don't say it unless you are willing to take the backlash for it. And that goes for everyone.
 

mickEblu

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Zeglers comments were really dumb and out of touch but she’s just the poster child who went viral and fanned the flames for the already disenchanted Disney fans. And I’d say she’ll go down as the poster child of this whole misguided era for Disney. Not just Snow White. I think from here, if they have one iota of common sense this will be a huge turning point for them to get back to their bread and butter. It’s almost symbolic that they crashed and burned with Snow White of all properties. This will mark a rebirth and the start of a new era for Disney.

Also who cares about review bombs? Its still a person that did not like or does not want to see your movie. In the end it’s the same thing. A ticket that was not sold.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Two different situations…. People were arguing that Gina Carano should have never been fired because her first amendment rights were trampled on…, they were not…she can say whatever she wants…. But the first amendment protects Disney as well…, who as abusiness can decide that her views do not represents theirs

Anybody can voice whatever opinions they wish on Zeglers comments.
I think you missed my point. Right now we are talking about Zeglers comments and if you are bothered by them or not. I bring up Gina because for a lot of people here, they had no problem condemning her, calling her one of the "worst people". Then also saying, well I don't really care what they say. And they also sit here and defend Zegler by telling people they're wrong for being upset by her comments. But they were right when they went after Gina? It's hypocrisy.

I didn't support what Gina said, I didn't support what Pedro said and I won't excuse what Zegler said. Ill-advised statements shouldn't have excuses made for them just because the person is on your same side. But that sentiment goes right out the window with too many people here. That's why I say it's always fight and defend.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
This is such an extremely small sample size.

Clearly the film is not being accepted but there are many possible reasons. I’m at a loss as to why some posters are so insistent on having their own reason be the “main one.”
But that's what we were talking about, or at least I was, the people on this site. The problem lies in the excuses for what zegler said. I've said, there's a lot that contributed to this result. And her comments gave the film an even larger uphill battle. I think your statement is interesting because so many are insistent on defending her comments that they are no big deal. But let's say the film wasn't a bad. Her comments would have made it a lot harder to gain traction in my opinion.
 

TP2000

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Disney isn't making the same mistake again for live action Pocahontas.

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Disney is clearly just setting that up as a money grab franchise, it's so obvious! :rolleyes:

In Pocohontas 2 she goes on to become a Harvard Professor, then in Pocohontas 3 she becomes a Senator, then in Pocohontas 4 she runs for President, etc.
 

Dear Prudence

Well-Known Member
What do you mean?

About it (the movie) or the drama surrounding it?
Oh my gosh, so much of it--- dunking on the original Snow White (who is an ab*se survivor, as well as her trauma responses to things) , certain people promoting the film joking about co- workers losing their jobs while demanding more money for themselves, the use of CGI instead of hiring little people,....and there's more, I'm sure, that right now I am just blanking on...
 

LittleBuford

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I posted something spoiler-free over in the box-office thread. Forgive me for being lazy, but this will be an expanded adaptation of that post.

Overall, I enjoyed it. Zegler is very good and Gadot, despite the criticisms that have been voiced of her acting, does a fine job overall—her character is meant to be stiff and haughty anyway. I thought the original songs were excellent, especially Waiting on a Wish, which, had the film not bombed, may well have joined the roster of Disney firework anthems.

The film is at its strongest when it does its own thing: the deviations from and elaborations of the original plot make a virtue of the remake’s existence (though I say this as someone who tends to dislike beat-by-beat remakes—what’s the point?). I especially liked the relationship between Snow White and Jonathan, but I’m a sucker for romance.

There is a certain tension between the film’s more original aspects and those that hew closer to the source material, I suspect because of all the revisions that the project went through. This is at its most apparent in relation to the dwarfs and the bandits. The latter were first made known to us through those infamous production photos. Based on what I can cobble together from the information we have at our disposal, these bandits were originally meant to be a parallel group to (and not a replacement for) Snow White’s companions, who were conceived of as magical beings of some sort. It’s possible that these magical beings were always going to be dwarfs, but I’m inclined to agree with the view that Disney changed them to bring them closer to their cartoon counterparts in the wake of all the criticism levelled at the leaked production stills. Regardless of how this state of affairs came about, what we have been left with is a group of bandits who have evidently been stripped of all their lines and character—it’s clear that they at one time had much more to say and do—and a CGI rehashing of the dwarfs, whose very traditional feel is somewhat at odds with the more novel elements of the film. I suspect the two groups as originally conceived—Jonathan’s bandits and Snow White’s magical companions—would have been more interesting and fleshed out than what we’ve ended up with.

On the issue of CGI, it doesn’t look as bad as I’d feared. The animals are actually very cute, and a few of the dwarfs, especially Doc, are passable. Dopey, however, takes us deep into Uncanny Valley territory! Whereas the original film portrays the dwarfs as little men (men who might be interpreted as human), this version presents them as magical nonhuman beings, which I think rather justifies the decision not to cast actors with dwarfism in these roles. Perhaps some of the criticism they’ve received could have been avoided if they’d been designed to look less human.

The messaging of the film is really very traditional: tyranny is bad, and benevolent monarchy is good, a trope that has been repeated time and again in Disney films. We also have a proper baddie in the form of the Evil Queen and a classic love story between a pretty girl and a handsome young man (Jonathan made my heart flutter, too). Contrary to my expectations, female empowerment is not really present as a theme (Snow White’s gender is barely commented on).

It should be clear from what I’ve written that this film is the furthest thing from how some have characterised it in the forum. There is no propaganda, there is no communism. This is most definitely a family film in the classic mould—not necessarily the best thing in terms of quality, but “safe”, traditional entertainment that is very unlikely to raise any parental hackles. The only thing I found remotely questionable from a child-friendly perspective was the inclusion of the words “where the sun don’t shine” in one of the songs. But other than that, this is one of the most traditional films Disney has come out with in years, complete with love’s kiss waking up a dead princess! It’s ironic, then, that those most loudly denouncing it as woke propaganda are the very people who would most approve of it were they actually to see it.

I thought it was miles better than the Lion King remake and more enjoyable than Moana 2. Its dreadful box-office performance (I was the only person at the screening I attended) is not a fair indicator of its quality.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

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I thought it was miles better than the Lion King remake and more enjoyable than Moana 2. Its dreadful box-office performance (I was the only person at the screening I attended) is not a fair indicator of its quality.

I enjoyed your review…however this part 👆🏻is what doesn’t matter

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