SPOILERS: Captain America 4 (Brave New World) Feb 11, 2025 Premier

[Disney Irish]

Just got out. I think I liked it. Far from my favorite, but not my least favorite movie. The action was good. The story was really interesting to me up until the ending. And I definitely geeked out at Adamantium.

My dislikes. For not having super serum, Sam sure had some pretty ridiculous moves and strengths, flipping guys all over the place. I wanted more from Ruth. I think that was the big tell of the story being rewritten, she just kind of is there as this widow that is an elite of the elite. I really disliked the ending. I'm with Adventure in that him in prison seemed so weird to me. And I honestly didn't like how he was able to control it.

Also, I'm sure I missed it somehow, but why did the villain need to be arrested for that audio to leak during the press conference? Couldn't he have just been gone and it all worked the same? I'm torn on the villain cause I liked the idea of him, but it just didn't hit well for me for some reason. I don't know why (it might just be the constant probability mentioning, which to be fair could completely be comic accurate, but I wanted him to use more intelect than just that).

Last thing (sorry feels like I'm on a lot of a rant on things I didn't like), I didn't like the end credit scene. I get what it's trying to do, but it felt like a boring end credit scene. Kind of a call back to an old movie one, but again, Probability this and that.

So setting aside for a moment the reasons why he should be in prison, what would you do with him? I mean he can't really stay President, so he has to step down, but then what? He just is allowed to walk around the public? And you know they all would all being trying to get him to Hulk out and that wouldn't end well. So I ask what do you do with him?

 

[LSLS]

So setting aside for a moment the reasons why he should be in prison, what would you do with him? I mean he can't really stay President, so he has to step down, but then what? He just is allowed to walk around the public? And you know they all would all being trying to get him to Hulk out and that wouldn't end well. So I ask what do you do with him?

I never saw incredible hulk, but how did banner end up a doctor in poor places and not jail? I honestly would be totally fine with him volunteering to go in to a place to keep the public safe and learning to control transformations, it just felt weird to see him put in jail.

 

[Disney Irish]

I never saw incredible hulk, but how did banner end up a doctor in poor places and not jail? I honestly would be totally fine with him volunteering to go in to a place to keep the public safe and learning to control transformations, it just felt weird to see him put in jail.

Banner is a fugitive who Ross is trying to capture and imprison. At the end of the movie he continued running and ended up in British Columbia, ie still a fugitive not voluntarily going. Also he does this in order to learn how to control his rage which causes him to turn.

Had he stayed he for sure would have been imprisoned by the US Government, ie Ross. Maybe never actually learning how to control his rage and becoming an Avenger.

Basically Banner being a fugitive is the whole setup for the character, and an important part of who he is. This is the whole basis for the 70s TV show as well, he has to go from town to town otherwise he’d be imprisoned by the US Government. So it’s sort of the whole point. Which is why it’s also ironic to see Ross in prison as he is the one who wanted to imprison Banner. As someone once said, it’s sort of like poetry, it rhymes.

 

[BlindChow]

I didn't like the end credit scene.

It was a bizarre waste of time for anyone who sat in the theater waiting for it.

A warning that "others" were coming from other universes? We literally already knew that from several previous films with characters from other universes.

Marvel has lost their magic with the "post-credits stinger." At least it wasn't just a scene from the next film, I guess...

 

[LSLS]

It was a bizarre waste of time for anyone who sat in the theater waiting for it.

A warning that "others" were coming from other universes? We literally already knew that from several previous films with characters from other universes.

Marvel has lost their magic with the "post-credits stinger." At least it wasn't just a scene from the next film, I guess...

I feel like it was a call back to an extent to another movie's end credit, but can't think of it. But it felt weird to me. Is it he knows this because he is so smart he has seen it? Or he is calculating something on the side between trying to get at Ross? But his probability calculations were already smashed by Cap like 3 times in that movie. I don't know, unless he's going to have a role in future movies, it seemed like a waste. Maybe he does come back in the next couple movies and I'll look back on that end credit scene much more favorably.

 

[doctornick]

I actually liked Sterns and think he’d be an interesting character to explore more but his turning himself in made no sense. Would rather have him still out there as a fugitive.

Would have liked to have seen whatever version of the movie had a more comics like Serpent Society and Sabra. Giancarlo is awesome and did the role well but just wasn’t Sidewinder; there’s really little point to even having him be that character. And Ruth was just kinda there and not interesting or useful at all. She should have at least done some more hand to hand combat being a former Widow.

Overall the movie was perfectly fine but not all that entertaining. More just bland than bad. I guess it was good to bring Adamantium into the MCU and actually address some dangling threads.

Thunderbolts was definitely better.

 

[Nevermore525]

It’s a Hulk movie, featuring Captain America. Not a Captain America movie.

Mackie deserved a better standalone story in film form and not something shoehorned in to existing stories.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Finally watched it on Disney+.

I went in with what I thought were low enough expectations of simply a somewhat entertaining movie, having quite enjoyed Falcon & Winter Soldier. And yeah, this was terrible.

I said to a friend it was like Marvel had a wall of ideas and four darts they threw blindly and hit: "new Falcon", "Red Hulk", "adamantium" and "Celestials" and then had to make a movie out of it. And that doesn't even count the additional dart for reshoots: "Giancarlo Esposito with a really big gun".

That was just a mess.

I'm still quite looking forward to Thunderbolts, but pretty much dreading Fantastic Four as they've just so clearly lost their storytelling - and casting - way. Really disappointing.