Spider-Man 4 (Holland)

Disney Irish

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I'm not so sure too many fans would be against Venom joining the MCU and being the main antagonist to Spidey.
Remember the online excitement a few years back when the end credits scene for Let There Be Carnage was leaked, and shows Venom watching the Tom Holland SM on TV ("That guy!")
I agree there was excitement in having Venom come to the MCU, but I don’t think it was to be a pure villain against Spidey. But rather just to join the MCU. Having Venom become a pure villain after being an anti-hero/hero would likely turn off too many fans.
 

Baloo124

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I agree there was excitement in having Venom come to the MCU, but I don’t think it was to be a pure villain against Spidey. But rather just to join the MCU. Having Venom become a pure villain after being an anti-hero/hero would likely turn off too many fans.
Ideally, they shoud've kept Carnage, another popular Spidey villain alive at the end of Venom 2.
Have Venom and Spidey be at odds for awhile in an MCU SM film (without Venom being "evil", just an antagonist to Peter). Then later in the film they become allies and fight off Carnage as the main big bad. Give fans across the board what they want.
 

Agent H

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Ideally, they shoud've kept Carnage, another popular Spidey villain alive at the end of Venom 2.
Have Venom and Spidey be at odds for awhile in an MCU SM film (without Venom being "evil", just an antagonist to Peter). Then later in the film they become allies and fight off Carnage as the main big bad. Give fans across the board what they want.
They could still bring back carnage. Maybe venom bonds with Peter for a while and eventually separates from him but a little bit of the symbiote separates from venom and turns into carnage because of Peter’s unique dna. Yes I did take inspiration from ultimate spider-man for this.
 
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Baloo124

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Maybe venom bonds with Peter for a while
As long as this is never a thing again. Ever.
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Agent H

Well-Known Member
May be, but that is just speculation at this point. For all we know Feige doesn't want to incorporate Venom at this point, rather saving him for later.

Sony's Spiderverse is crumbling and crashing. Better to let that happen fully before you take on the heavy lifting of trying to revive it into the MCU.
Agreed. I feel like this is a good opportunity to divorce venom from Tom entirely.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Ehh agree to disagree.
Well Brock is in New York at the end of Venom 3. So it would be a natural progression of the story for him to meetup with Spidey. Otherwise you'd have to find a way to bring the remaining little piece of the symbiote from Nevada to New York and have it join to another person and turn evil to become a villain.

That is a lot of heavy lifting for want appears to be minimal payoff to me when you have other stories to tell with Peter.
 

Agent H

Well-Known Member
Well Brock is in New York at the end of Venom 3. So it would be a natural progression of the story for him to meetup with Spidey. Otherwise you'd have to find a way to bring the remaining little piece of the symbiote from Nevada to New York and have it join to another person and turn evil to become a villain.

That is a lot of heavy lifting for want appears to be minimal payoff to me when you have other stories to tell with Peter.
Okay I’m confused. I didn’t watch vemom 3 but even if he did end up in New York it wouldn’t be earth-1999 right?
 

Agent H

Well-Known Member
Since seeing this opening night I have never understood the enduring hate. The film had many problems, but not this. This is what you get when an awkward nerd suddenly feels cool and empowered. It's appropriate cringe- the film acknowledges this.
I’m a nerd. I wouldn’t be caught dead doing that.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Okay I’m confused. I didn’t watch vemom 3 but even if he did end up in New York it wouldn’t be earth-1999 right?
Rumors are that Spidey 4 will also include a bit more of the multi-verse, as Sony say the potential with the Macguire/Garfield/Holland cross-over and saw $$$.

So nothing says they can't have Hardy in Earth-616 again.
 

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