Spaceship Earth Error

CaptainJackNO

Well-Known Member
After visiting Disney last week, I noticed a factual error that I had noticed in my previous trip from 2006. In the scene depicting Michelangelo painting the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, it shows him lying on his back on the scaffold and painting. However, historical records show, and the artists own statements prove, that he was standing while painting the ceiling. Has anyone else noticed, and how could Disney have overlooked this error?:veryconfu
YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE?
I happen to have proof that you can't really go to space in an omnimover. Everybody knows you have to be in a REAL Space Shuttle...............:rolleyes:
 

hrcollectibles

Active Member
YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE?
I happen to have proof that you can't really go to space in an omnimover. Everybody knows you have to be in a REAL Space Shuttle...............:rolleyes:

how do you explain Mission Space????lol.. to the original poster I say let anyone notice what they want to notice. There are some that notice when a bulb is out on a sign several feet in the air... and do we bash them.. ok sometimes some on this board do.. see what happens when there is only a few minutes left in a work day...
 

Cosmo

Member
New discoveries in science show that we don't have any evidence for the existence of trolls. Anyone have any idea why the imagineers would be irresponsible enough to display them in the Maelstrom? How could they overlook this error :veryconfu???

apparently you've never met my boss...:lookaroun
 

mousermerf

Account Suspended
*sigh*

He has a valid point - and more so - the Sistine Chapel is the wrong color, which is actually more important but not portrayed.

Also, ALL of the architecture and statures from the Greek and Roman scenes are white instead of painted - which is incorrect. They would be painted in garish colors in their actual time period.

Why the color changes? Because antiquity in the modern conscious is how we've seen them after years of weathering and neglect. The colors have faded from the Sistine Chapel. The true color of the paint as he painted it (and it would be in that scene) to us would appear odd and sort of excessively "loud."

The Greek and Roman ruins would look like a joke instead of the noble white.

So, artistic license it is.
 

Balasada

Banned
After visiting Disney last week, I noticed a factual error that I had noticed in my previous trip from 2006. In the scene depicting Michelangelo painting the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, it shows him lying on his back on the scaffold and painting. However, historical records show, and the artists own statements prove, that he was standing while painting the ceiling. Has anyone else noticed, and how could Disney have overlooked this error?:veryconfu
Did Michelangelo really paint lying on his back?

No. Charlton Heston did in the movie, but the real Michelangelo didn't lay on his back to paint the ceiling. He conceived and had constructed a unique scaffolding system. It was sturdy enough to hold workers and materials, but began high up the walls of the chapel in order that Mass might still be celebrated below.

The scaffolding curved at its top, mimicking the curvature of the ceiling's vault. Michelangelo often had to bend backwards and paint over his head - an awkward position which must've made his neck and back ache, his arms burn painfully and, according to him, permanently screwed up his vision. But he wasn't lying flat on his back.


Maybe they can sue Disney and they will win a lot of money.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
*sigh*

He has a valid point - and more so - the Sistine Chapel is the wrong color, which is actually more important but not portrayed.

Also, ALL of the architecture and statures from the Greek and Roman scenes are white instead of painted - which is incorrect. They would be painted in garish colors in their actual time period.

Why the color changes? Because antiquity is in the modern conscious is how we've seen them after years of weathering and neglect. The colors have faded from the Sistine Chapel. The true color of the paint as he painted it (and it would be in that scene) to us would appear odd and sort of excessively "loud."

The Greek and Roman ruins would look like a joke instead of the noble white.

So, artistic license it is.

You make good points except that they restored the paint in the Sistine Chapel in the 1980's. And yes the colors are very bright.
 

disnyfan89

Well-Known Member
Michelangelo as we know spent a long time painting the chapel and everyday the pope would come check his work. The pope would yell up at Michelangelo asking "Michelangelo, is it done yet." and each time Michelangelo would roll over and yell back "NO! It is not done yet!" This went on for days and weeks and of course it became very annoying to Michelangelo. One day the pope came in and as usual would yell out "Michelangelo!" but on this day there was no reply. The pope once again yelled up "Michelangelo!" but still no reply. The pope tried one more time "Michelangelo!" Michelangelo was at this point in a complete rage and finally responded! "What! What is it!" Everyday you call my name! What is it that you want!" The pope smiled up at Michelangelo "Michelangelo, come on down! We got wall-paper!"

True story I swear! :p


Credit for joke goes to Boba DaVinchi!
 

DisneyAnole

New Member
After visiting Disney last week, I noticed a factual error that I had noticed in my previous trip from 2006. In the scene depicting Michelangelo painting the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, it shows him lying on his back on the scaffold and painting. However, historical records show, and the artists own statements prove, that he was standing while painting the ceiling. Has anyone else noticed, and how could Disney have overlooked this error?:veryconfu

I think it's an interesting point you make. Especially considering the way Disney puts so much worth into the accuracy of seemingly trivial details.

But based on this thread, apparently if you bring up anything that mightly even slightly suggest that Disney's done something wrong, you can prepare to have you butt handed to you by the zealous Disney apologists. :rolleyes:
 

mousermerf

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I think it's an interesting point you make. Especially considering the way Disney puts so much worth into the accuracy of seemingly trivial details.

But based on this thread, apparently if you bring up anything that mightly even slightly suggest that Disney's done something wrong, you can prepare to have you butt handed to you by the zealous Disney apologists. :rolleyes:

True dat.

And the explanation is that people wouldn't understand it or immediately identify with it, kinda like garish Greek statues, so to convey the point and avoid confusion they chose the convention over the factual matter.

I mean, night time isn't blue light either. That's a theatrical convention.
 

GenerationX

Well-Known Member
I find the fact that Disney made factual errors on the attraction far more interesting than the attraction itself. Maybe WDI figured most people would be too sleepy to notice.
 

mousermerf

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I find the fact that Disney made factual errors on the attraction far more interesting than the attraction itself. Maybe WDI figured most people would be too sleepy to notice.

I have a friend who is a costumer designer who used to always point out exactly what was wrong with the Egyptian scene every time we rode. Many of those errors are now fixed.
 

EPCOT.nut

Well-Known Member
We are also fairly confident that when Rome burned that it did not smell entirely like burnt BBQ."

:lol:

nor did anyone riding past Rome while it was burning say, "dang, i love that smell."

:lol: :lol:

After visiting Disney last week, I noticed a factual error that I had noticed in my previous trip from 2006. In the scene depicting Michelangelo painting the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, it shows him lying on his back on the scaffold and painting. However, historical records show, and the artists own statements prove, that he was standing while painting the ceiling. Has anyone else noticed, and how could Disney have overlooked this error?

No! I never noticed but art history makes me :snore: for the most part.

I see you just joined the site - welcome! :wave:

And yeah, I do think it is weird that they would show him painting lying on his back if he didn't really paint it that way! I'd love to hear that that discussion:

Imagineer #1: I love the Sistene Chapel part, but he looks weird painting standing up.
Imagineer #2: Yeah, but that's the way he did it.
Imagineer #1: Are you sure? I still think it looks weird.
Imagineer #2: It doesn't really matter to me...let's flip a coin.
 

jmvd20

Well-Known Member
Due to OSHA regulations all artists that are painting ceilings for periods longer than one year must do so laying down, or they are required to wear complete fall protection harnesses and lanyards. Due to this requirement WDI felt that the fall protection devices would reduce the guests overall satisfaction with SSE moreso than simply having him lay down while painting the ceiling.

As long as we are on this subject, remind me to never hire him to paint anything. He has been working on that same ceiling since 1982 and I cant even tell what he has been doing that whole time. I seriously hope he is not being paid by the hour...
 

mousermerf

Account Suspended
Due to OSHA regulations all artists that are painting ceilings for periods longer than one year must do so laying down, or they are required to wear complete fall protection harnesses and lanyards. Due to this requirement WDI felt that the fall protection devices would reduce the guests overall satisfaction with SSE moreso than simply having him lay down while painting the ceiling.

As long as we are on this subject, remind me to never hire him to paint anything. He has been working on that same ceiling since 1982 and I cant even tell what he has been doing that whole time. I seriously hope he is not being paid by the hour...

He's not even doing it right, you're supposed to paint it while the plaster is wet and that puppy is obviously dry.

Unless he's painting black - which isn't the color on his brush. Oh, oh, sucks to be an imagineer.
 

Sherrybaby

New Member
Well, Merf, I figured you wouldn't get a lot of support on this thread. There was a flame war awhile back about the countries in Epcot only portraying positive aspects of the countries. Pretty much everyone agreed that they did not want to go to Epcot to hear about "true" history or see anything negative--it's entertainment and that's what it should be. Since I'm not arguing my point on that anymore I can say this about Michelangelo--In an art history class awhile back we read about him lying back on the scaffold to rest--so from that information, he did lay on the scaffold maybe not to paint but probably many times during the day. I guess he did this until the monks told him that he better get the ceiling done or they were going to have him killed. I doubt he rested much after that :)

Ta ta!

Sherry
 

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