Space for Development?

[ms7479a]

I was looking at Windows Live at a view of the Seven Sea Lagoon and noticed that there are two fairly large plots of land which each could fit a good sized resorts (I have included a link and marked the two spots). I know it is unlikely in the near future but do you think that any resorts will ever come to these places. I remember once hearing something about a Mediteranean resort, that would be nice.

http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=28.413602~-81.583802&style=h&lvl=16&scene=3930019&sp=aN.28.415900_-81.588893_Area%20One_~aN.28.411304_-81.578711_Area%20Two_

 

[Captain Chaos]

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but weren't resorts originally planned for those two spots?

 

[ogryn]

Someone give Martin a shout! :lol:

2 was definitely planned for, but all I've read online (take that for what you will) indicates the land wasn't suitable for building on. There was one planned for above the Contempory as well

 

[Horizons1]

I think area number 2 is actually where the Mediteranean was supposed to go. Of course I could be wrong on that or have mixed it up with the Veitnitian, but I know something was supposed to be built there.

But nothing was ever planned for area 1, the other resort would have been built north of the Comtemporary and east of the MK.

 

[Medic2891]

I believe it had to do with the water table and land stability. Too costly to build on those sites. A major problem they are having with the Monorail is that it is sinking as well. I am sure that they would love to build there but as long as sinking is a problem, it probably won't happen.

 

[Horizons1]

Ok, after checking, I did get them mixed up. Area 2 was where the Venetian was to go. Area 1 like I said, was to never be developed, and as for the other resort, it was not a Mediteranean but actually the Persian.


Heres a Pre-opening concept, you will see the two resorts and their intended locations...

Note the change in the Monorail route.

 

[Medic2891]

Ok, after checking, I did get them mixed up. Area 2 was where the Venetian was to go. Area 1 like I said, was to never be developed, and as for the other resort, it was not a Mediteranean but actually the Persian.


Heres a Pre-opening concept, you will see the two resorts and their intended locations...

Note the change in the Monorail route.

Wouldn't that have been interesting. It certainly would be nice to have more resorts on the lagoon, but then again it is nice with just what is there. The lagoon doesn't get too crowded with rented boats, even in the busy season. I am sure progress will take over at some point though. Nice job on finding this photo.

 

[Horizons1]

Wouldn't that have been interesting. It certainly would be nice to have more resorts on the lagoon, but then again it is nice with just what is there. The lagoon doesn't get too crowded with rented boats, even in the busy season. I am sure progress will take over at some point though. Nice job on finding this photo.

Oh it wasnt hard to find at all. I got it from http://www.bigbrian-nc.com/pctoc.htm

Its a great site for WDW postcards and the guy who set it up, does a terrific job.

 

[jedimaster1227]

Windows Live seems to be using old scans of WDW because Animal Kingdom is non-existant on the map and so is Epcot. I haven't checked MGM yet but has anyone else noticed this?

 

[MickeyMan101]

cool, now lets make this another monorail thread!!! jkjk

I actually do like that idea for a new resort..and the monorail going through tomrrow land...hey-it fits

MickeyMan101

 

[marni1971]

Someone give Martin a shout! :lol:

I`m here!

2 was the original plot for the Venitian (as seen in the concept art above) and in the late 80`s the Meditteranean. The former wasn`t built due to the 1973 oil crisis (as neither was the Asian, where the GF is today, or the Persian, where the Bay Lack dry dock - bottom right on the pic - is today. The Med wasn`t built, although the land was cleared in 1990, due to the land being unsuitable and cost prohibitive (even though the Med was supposed to be more luxurious than the GF)

Item 1 has never been designated in the master plan as we know it. It is mainly lower lying swamp land, and in the projected flood area. Interestingly, in the early 90`s, there was a plot NW or item 1 that was Mickeys Forest - the trees were cut to form the outline of Mickeys head.

Other items of note on this 1968 picture, which was drawn for the cover of the WDW Master Planning book, are Tomorrowlands lake (and the aforementioned monorail loop / station there), Space Port, an early WRE, the Seven Seas inlet canal in the wrong place, Tempo Bay Resort (became the Contemporary) and the original high rise Polynesian.

 

[AndyP]

Windows Live seems to be using old scans of WDW because Animal Kingdom is non-existant on the map and so is Epcot. I haven't checked MGM yet but has anyone else noticed this?

Nope, thet are all there for me. See under some of the recent topics for AK, lots of Windows live links there. I've seen them all though, so you must have some other problem.

 

[jedimaster1227]

Well, maybe its just my horrible laptop...

Anyways, spot 1 looks alot like the STOLPort doesn't it? Unfortunately, Microsoft won't let us zoom in close enough to see.

If it is the STOLPort like I think it may very well be, then that area is being used for storage vehicles and semi's parked where planes were designated to land.

 

[WDWGuide]

Well, maybe its just my horrible laptop...

Anyways, spot 1 looks alot like the STOLPort doesn't it? Unfortunately, Microsoft won't let us zoom in close enough to see.

If it is the STOLPort like I think it may very well be, then that area is being used for storage vehicles and semi's parked where planes were designated to land.

The landing strip parallels World Drive and is east of the parking lot/speedway and due south of the Wilderness Lodge - you can see it from the Monorail.

 

[Lee]

Other items of note on this 1968 picture, which was drawn for the cover of the WDW Master Planning book, are Tomorrowlands lake (and the aforementioned monorail loop / station there), Space Port, an early WRE, the Seven Seas inlet canal in the wrong place, Tempo Bay Resort (became the Contemporary) and the original high rise Polynesian.

That reminds me, Martin.
Did you ever identify that "mystery building" in Adventureland? :wave:

 

[HauntedPirate]

I believe it had to do with the water table and land stability. Too costly to build on those sites. A major problem they are having with the Monorail is that it is sinking as well. I am sure that they would love to build there but as long as sinking is a problem, it probably won't happen.

The monorail is sinking? Can someone please confirm/deny this?

 

[Meyers]

In a 1975 real estate promotional brochure, there was a masterplan layout of WDW.

I noticed two things of interest to me. First, a private airport of some size, not just an airstrip, probably located near where AK is now. This airport was also shown in WDW masterplan layout which was displayed at EPCOT in one of the the Communications Core buildings. I wish this could have been built and Disney developed another park in conjuction with the airport.

Second, there was a "third" theme park proposed similar to Knott's Berry Farm with a western theme. Obviously never built. Probably better to not have built it since the Old West is not as popular as it was in earlier decades.

With the Old West theme out, and EPCOT featuring countries of the world, MGM/Disney Studios covering Hollywood and the Animal Kingdom bringing in live animals, etc - not much else remains worthy of building an entire new major park. My suggestion posted here before, is still DisneySea combined with "DisneySky" (aviation and space) similar to EPCOT twin sections.

 

[Yetiguy]

I have an idea for a new space for development...the spot where Expedition Everest is standing. They could take wrecking ball to it (Gosh, I'd enjoy seeing that), and then in it's place they could build something infinitely more exciting...like a museum of used bandaids, or... a theater that shows the Weather Channel 24/7, or....the Watching Paint Dry exhibit! Please, anything but that incredibly dull ride!:lol:

 

[SpaceMountainUK]

Im sure if they REALLY wanted to they could easily build a resort on that patch of land that they claim is 'unstable', after all they did build a whole lagoon and built an entire park above a system of corridoors! The real reason most probably is cost! but I guess this is understandable, no point in spending millions on a new resort when there is no demand for one.

 

[Lefty]

How old is this map? I don't see Pop Century.