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GoofGoof

Premium Member
"Kiddie coaster" is constantly used here as a pejorative term to describe the 7DMT and I'm not sure that's fair. The swaying is going to be a novel feeling and it's going to be longer, more "thrilling" than the likes of Goofy's. I guess what I'm saying is that 7DMT is something in between an actual "kiddie coaster" and a more thrilling one like BTM. Maybe we need a different term like "Tween Coaster".

Besides, for most of it's existence, the Matterhorn would be considered a "kiddie coaster" (heck, my one son rode it when it was 2 and a half and he's relatively short) and people of all ages seem to enjoy it.
I agree. Plus you managed to use the word pejorative. I admit I had to look it up. Remind me never to play scrabble with you;)
 

dreamscometrue

Well-Known Member
"Kiddie coaster" is constantly used here as a pejorative term to describe the 7DMT and I'm not sure that's fair. The swaying is going to be a novel feeling and it's going to be longer, more "thrilling" than the likes of Goofy's. I guess what I'm saying is that 7DMT is something in between an actual "kiddie coaster" and a more thrilling one like BTM. Maybe we need a different term like "Tween Coaster".

Besides, for most of it's existence, the Matterhorn would be considered a "kiddie coaster" (heck, my one son rode it when it was 2 and a half and he's relatively short) and people of all ages seem to enjoy it.

Great post! Agreed!
 

ezralou

Member
May I respectfully inquire as to how moving the windows before the ride is open
affects anything, at all, ever?

Your statement, condensed, sorta reads "Mermaid has a very detailed/realistic queue, but . . . the windows moved on the castle".

To me that's like saying, "I like pizza, but the pepperonis were rotated". Or something.

Not sure why, but I love the "rotated pepperoni" analogy!
 

Pixiedustmaker

Well-Known Member
I absolutely doubt that the entire ship structure with a Ariel figurehead was last minute. Compared to the concept art it is something that would take much more time to build and add the level of detail to it.Also, it flows a lot more with its surrounding then a bronze statue would of.

And the windows were obviously a last minute decision but that was clearly because they realized it would look a lot better if they were to the front, then to the side, like in the movie. But I don't see how that is a bad thing? Imaginears realized their was a better solution than previously brought up, so they went with it for the benefit of the guests.

1. Concept art revealed a generic mermaid figurehead on the shipwreck, not Ariel. This is the change I am referring to.

2. I think the window move was poorly thought out because it reveals that nobody really got what the front of the castle would look like from that angle, the side that was plastered over is "window deficient", and the castle doesn't have enough towers, and looks very medievalish, given the reaslistic ship wreck and the look of cement blocks making up the walls, rather than fairytale like.
 

Pixiedustmaker

Well-Known Member
May I respectfully inquire as to how moving the windows before the ride is open
affects anything, at all, ever?

Your statement, condensed, sorta reads "Mermaid has a very detailed/realistic queue, but . . . the windows moved on the castle".

To me that's like saying, "I like pizza, but the pepperonis were rotated". Or something.

1. First it indicates poor planning. But, of course, this in its self is not a crime if the final product is good.
2. I have felt for a while that the castle did not have enough windows, and the side that the windows were removed from might look like just a brick wall.
3. While the water, rockwork, and even shipwreck looks good . . . I don't like the castle. Not enough towers, windows, and no vines on the trellis, like in the film. I mean, they built a trellis and didn't even put a fake vine on it? Eric's castle just looks very sterile to me, and more like something out of the Pirates movies than a fairytale castle in Fantasyland.

For anyone who has ridden Pirates in Paris, the queue might look familiar,

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Maybe they could stick Ariel on the shipwreck in Pirates in Paris, as a little homage

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Patricia Melton

Well-Known Member
May I respectfully inquire as to how moving the windows before the ride is open
affects anything, at all, ever?

Your statement, condensed, sorta reads "Mermaid has a very detailed/realistic queue, but . . . the windows moved on the castle".

To me that's like saying, "I like pizza, but the pepperonis were rotated". Or something.

Some people just like to find things to complain about. It makes them feel important.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Some people just like to find things to complain about. It makes them feel important.

Yeah, this is one of those cases of damned if you, damned if you don't. If they hadn't made some of these last minutes changes people would have complained that things didn't look right, but when they do the right thing and fix something that didn't come out right the get criticised for making a last minute change.
 

Disneyhead'71

Well-Known Member
I am glad WDI realized there was a problem with the look of the location of the windows and fixed it. That's what professionals do. It took Universal 3 times to get the rockwork on Hogwarts Castle just right and it is some of the most spectacular rockwork ever.

Not quite right is not good enough.
 

Atomicmickey

Well-Known Member
1. First it indicates poor planning. But, of course, this in its self is not a crime if the final product is good.
2. I have felt for a while that the castle did not have enough windows, and the side that the windows were removed from might look like just a brick wall.
3. While the water, rockwork, and even shipwreck looks good . . . I don't like the castle. Not enough towers, windows, and no vines on the trellis, like in the film. I mean, they built a trellis and didn't even put a fake vine on it? Eric's castle just looks very sterile to me, and more like something out of the Pirates movies than a fairytale castle in Fantasyland.

For anyone who has ridden Pirates in Paris, the queue might look familiar,
Maybe they could stick Ariel on the shipwreck in Pirates in Paris, as a little homage

So, from a logician's point of view, would it be safe to say, that you don't like the Mermaid queue,
because you don't like the Mermaid queue, and leave it at that?
 

JungleTrekFan

Active Member
1. Concept art revealed a generic mermaid figurehead on the shipwreck, not Ariel. This is the change I am referring to.

2. I think the window move was poorly thought out because it reveals that nobody really got what the front of the castle would look like from that angle, the side that was plastered over is "window deficient", and the castle doesn't have enough towers, and looks very medievalish, given the reaslistic ship wreck and the look of cement blocks making up the walls, rather than fairytale like.
I’ve never seen that artwork, but, shouldn’t ariel be outside her attraction to advertise what the attraction is about?

And it has nothing to do with poor planning. They went to the artist who made the movie and made that exact castle (excluding maybe a tiny tower and the grand staircase to the ocean), and added some more detail to it all and then built it, Im sure while building they were worried about the outcome because the artist only show the castle through one side view and never from all 360 degrees of the castle, once the windows were installed they realized in front was a better idea for the park so they changed it in an efficient manner.

But i still don’t know WHY you think it was a bad idea that they went with the castle in the movie.
 

Pixiedustmaker

Well-Known Member
But i still don’t know WHY you think it was a bad idea that they went with the castle in the movie.

The castle they have is nowhere nearly as beautiful as the one in the movie. The walls look like they are made out of cinder blocks, there aren't any vines, yes, towers are missing, and it matters, IMHO. And there is "muck", washed up the sides of the castle walls. I get that it is supposed to be by the ocean, but wouldn't the ocean's water washing this muck off?!?
 

JungleTrekFan

Active Member
The castle they have is nowhere nearly as beautiful as the one in the movie. The walls look like they are made out of cinder blocks, there aren't any vines, yes, towers are missing, and it matters, IMHO. And there is "muck", washed up the sides of the castle walls. I get that it is supposed to be by the ocean, but wouldn't the ocean's water washing this muck off?!?

Its an exact replica of the castle in the movie without one tower that was in the back and wouldn’t be noticeable anyways. Go watch the little mermaid again. Their are no vines on the castle either because, why would their be? their not in the movie, nor do vines grow anywhere near salt water. Yes detail was added to look like large blocks to give it a more castle look instead of the all pearl white castle in the movie, because between sunrise to sun set you would of been blinded by the castle if it was all white lol. But seriously, your being too nit picky, it is a gorgeous castle and follows the designs of the movie, as does all of new fantasyland.

But back to the subject on hand, I am really excited about these new and very immersive queues. I have yet to experience the Little Mermaid queue, but next weekend i’ll be there. Im also excited about the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train if it keeps with the beauty of the surrounding area, all of new fantasyland will become my new favorite place at WDW to just walk around. (Sorry World Showcase and Animal Kingdom).
 

Pixiedustmaker

Well-Known Member
Its an exact replica of the castle in the movie without one tower that was in the back and wouldn’t be noticeable anyways. Go watch the little mermaid again. Their are no vines on the castle either because, why would their be? their not in the movie, nor do vines grow anywhere near salt water. Yes detail was added to look like large blocks to give it a more castle look instead of the all pearl white castle in the movie, because between sunrise to sun set you would of been blinded by the castle if it was all white lol. But seriously, your being too nit picky, it is a gorgeous castle and follows the designs of the movie, as does all of new fantasyland.

There are reddish looking small potted trees or other plants on on the second/third floor in the castle in the film. They did put up a trellis on the castle, and trellises are clearly used to hold up plants, most often vines.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

Even Eric's castle in Storybook Land Canal Boats has vines on the trellis (not talking about the plants in the sand).

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The concept art depicted potted plants up on the second level, don't see what is wrong with wanting some greenery, fake or otherwise, up there.

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The movie had plants up on the second floor,

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By comparing the photos, I would say that the movie version has three tallish towers, and the one recently built has only two. I think another tower, like in the film, would have helped, don't know why they didn't build it.

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Other than a potted palm on a balcony, I also don't see any palm trees in the film, and the big cementish-looking blocks don't work, IMHO, and obviously aren't in the film. Looks more like a lighthouse, or something you'd see in a miniature golf than a fairytale castle.
 

afar28

Well-Known Member
I'm excited for the ride and the queue. Wonder if it really can rival other queues. I love Everests right now, wonder if tht will change when the mine train opens.
 

JungleTrekFan

Active Member
Other than a potted palm on a balcony, I also don't see any palm trees in the film, and the big cementish-looking blocks don't work, IMHO, and obviously aren't in the film. Looks more like a lighthouse, or something you'd see in a miniature golf than a fairytale castle.
Obviously your set in your views, but i think it looks beautiful regardless. Definitely a level of detail not seen in MK before.
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lifeguard1020

Active Member
Other than a potted palm on a balcony, I also don't see any palm trees in the film, and the big cementish-looking blocks don't work, IMHO, and obviously aren't in the film. Looks more like a lighthouse, or something you'd see in a miniature golf than a fairytale castle.[/quote]

So let me get all of this straight. The entire thing doesn't match the CONCEPT art EXACTLY. There is MORE detail on the ACTUAL STRUCTURES than you can see on the HAND DRAWN animation cells from a 23 year old animated movie. And you are UPSET with Disney about this... I know I don't speak up on here often, but man I really don't understand what some people are looking for. Had The Litte Mermaid been a true story, what do you think those towers would have been made of in real life. They weren't sandcastles. They were giant stone blocks. I really think they have hit the nail right on the head with this one...
 

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