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SpoiledBlueMilk

SpoiledBlueMilk

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Jaleo's been a mainstay in DC for years now. The food is good and consistent. Jose Andres has a few restaurants up here and they are all of equal quality. I don't know if it's because the place has been around for a while, or if the restaurant is part of the landscape, but I wouldn't consider it destination dining by any means. That being said, it would be a good addition to the line up, especially if he doesn't have an Orlando presence at this point.
 
Slowjack

Slowjack

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shernernum said:
How about Shake Shack Burgers but Five Guys Fries....that is a concept I could get behind.
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At the risk of derailing this thread further, may I ask, genuinely, why so many people apparently like the fries at Five Guys? I don't get it. I do enjoy the burgers there, but the fries there are always limp and greasy. The cajun spice option improves things, but that's lipstick on a pig. Do some people like limp, greasy fries, or do I just have a bad location that isn't following SOP? A good fry, to me, is a little crispy on the outside, while tender and even fluffy on the inside, and not greasy--it hasn't absorbed oil.
 
ToTBellHop

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shernernum said:
Having been to Five Guys, In and Out, and Shake Shack.....I agree.
Although, Shackburgers already cost about $7.50 or $8.00, they'd probably be $15 at DS.
How about Shake Shack Burgers but Five Guys Fries....that is a concept I could get behind.
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As long as there are also black and white shakes available.

Shackburgers are a world ahead of Five Guys' greasy mess. Shake Shack actually refrains from overcooking the meat, too.

I actually like their crinkle fries as they stay crispy. Five Guys fries are good for about five minutes until the grease makes them soggy.

Yes, Shake Shack is pricey. But it was invented in NYC.
 
Master Yoda

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Slowjack said:
At the risk of derailing this thread further, may I ask, genuinely, why so many people apparently like the fries at Five Guys? I don't get it. I do enjoy the burgers there, but the fries there are always limp and greasy. The cajun spice option improves things, but that's lipstick on a pig. Do some people like limp, greasy fries, or do I just have a bad location that isn't following SOP? A good fry, to me, is a little crispy on the outside, while tender and even fluffy on the inside, and not greasy--it hasn't absorbed oil.
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To really get fires to be crisp, they have to be either seriously over cooked or blanched then frozen. Since this is what 99% of the restaurants on the plant do, the "crispy" fry has become the norm.

Now there is nothing wrong with this. If that is what you like, then that is what you like. End of story. However, while blanching and freezing does produce a fry with a good shelf life and appealing texture, it also produces a fry nearly devoid of any flavor. They essentially become an efficient way to ingest ketchup and salt, but are devoid of any real flavor plain.

When you cut and cook fresh like 5 Guys does, you sacrifice texture for flavor. While they lack the "snap" of a McDonald's fry, they actually taste like something. Fresh fries also have a very short half-life to them. They are much better eaten almost straight from the fryer. If you get fresh fries to go, the 10-15 minute ride to the office really degrades their texture to an unpleasant soggy consistency.
 
Slowjack

Slowjack

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Master Yoda said:
To really get fires to be crisp, they have to be either seriously over cooked or blanched then frozen. Since this is what 99% of the restaurants on the plant do, the "crispy" fry has become the norm.

Now there is nothing wrong with this. If that is what you like, then that is what you like. End of story. However, while blanching and freezing does produce a fry with a good shelf life and appealing texture, it also produces a fry nearly devoid of any flavor. They essentially become an efficient way to ingest ketchup and salt, but are devoid of any real flavor plain.

When you cut and cook fresh like 5 Guys does, you sacrifice texture for flavor. While they lack the "snap" of a McDonald's fry, they actually taste like something. Fresh fries also have a very short half-life to them. They are much better eaten almost straight from the fryer. If you get fresh fries to go, the 10-15 minute ride to the office really degrades their texture to an unpleasant soggy consistency.
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EDIT: In hindsight, this was way too much discussion of fries, so I'm just going to cut this down to:

The best fries, in my opinion, are twice-fried at different temps.
 
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shernernum

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Master Yoda said:
To really get fires to be crisp, they have to be either seriously over cooked or blanched then frozen. Since this is what 99% of the restaurants on the plant do, the "crispy" fry has become the norm.

Now there is nothing wrong with this. If that is what you like, then that is what you like. End of story. However, while blanching and freezing does produce a fry with a good shelf life and appealing texture, it also produces a fry nearly devoid of any flavor. They essentially become an efficient way to ingest ketchup and salt, but are devoid of any real flavor plain.

When you cut and cook fresh like 5 Guys does, you sacrifice texture for flavor. While they lack the "snap" of a McDonald's fry, they actually taste like something. Fresh fries also have a very short half-life to them. They are much better eaten almost straight from the fryer. If you get fresh fries to go, the 10-15 minute ride to the office really degrades their texture to an unpleasant soggy consistency.
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This is absolutely correct. IMO, the flavor of a fresh cut and fried potato is more important to me than the crispy blanched and refried fry.

Disney could never allow a Five Guys on property though....could you imagine the problems it would cause since they are so sensitive to allergies. Peanuts all over the restaurant and fries cooked in peanut oil. It would be an allergy nightmare for them.
 
Master Yoda

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shernernum said:
This is absolutely correct. IMO, the flavor of a fresh cut and fried potato is more important to me than the crispy blanched and refried fry.

Disney could never allow a Five Guys on property though....could you imagine the problems it would cause since they are so sensitive to allergies. Peanuts all over the restaurant and fries cooked in peanut oil. It would be an allergy nightmare for them.
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I could see the signs now...

"If you have a peanut allergy, do not look directly at 5 Guys."
 
Kman101

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MansionButler84 said:
There are plenty of places at WDW with peanuts.

Ghirardelli is the only place I can think of that specifically excludes them.
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As someone with a peanut and tree nut allergy this is very true. I've never once had an issue at WDW. But Five Guys is a bit different, at least my local one is.
 
bhg469

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shernernum said:
Having been to Five Guys, In and Out, and Shake Shack.....I agree.
Although, Shackburgers already cost about $7.50 or $8.00, they'd probably be $15 at DS.
How about Shake Shack Burgers but Five Guys Fries....that is a concept I could get behind.
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But with In and out employees! They are next level good when it comes to customer service.
 
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shernernum

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MansionButler84 said:
There are plenty of places at WDW with peanuts.

Ghirardelli is the only place I can think of that specifically excludes them.
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Yes, I am aware of this, but the peanuts permeate the atmosphere at Five Guys (shells all over the place), and there are no options for their fries other than peanut oil (and since their menu is so limited fries are about 25% of the menu).

Also, I was being a little sarcastic as well....the internet and text needs a Sheldon Cooper sarcasm sign (also, why am I spending so much time discussing something that will never happen :p )
 
Horizons '83

Horizons '83

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Gatorboy said:
Moving on from burger places and fries, has there been any talk of Bongos being replaced and if so with what?
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I hope so, that place was such a disappointment when we went a few trips ago. The Original in Miami is fantastic but this one misses the mark.
 
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DisneyJayL

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shernernum said:
Having been to Five Guys, In and Out, and Shake Shack.....I agree.
Although, Shackburgers already cost about $7.50 or $8.00, they'd probably be $15 at DS.
How about Shake Shack Burgers but Five Guys Fries....that is a concept I could get behind.
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Let's get that started now.
 

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