Some things you just can't fix

raven

Well-Known Member
They have completely failed, 100% to adequately expand.

However, now that they are in this predicament, they really can't do anything else besides increase prices. It's the right move for where they are now. I absolutely detest Iger for failing so dreadfully to expand while squeezing profits the last 10 years.

Let's also look at the # of rooms on WDW property now compared to pre 2000. In the last 15 years they have nearly doubled room capacity of both Resort & DVC rooms (and they are still building more). Many people staying at the resorts only use Disney transportation. So more people are staying on property than ever before. And where do all of those guests go during the day? The parks.

The way I see it, Disney created this out of hand over-crowding problem on their own. Now instead of building more areas for guests to flow into they raise the prices to curb attendance? :rolleyes:
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Let's also look at the # of rooms on WDW property now compared to pre 2000. In the last 15 years they have nearly doubled room capacity of both Resort & DVC rooms (and they are still building more). Many people staying at the resorts only use Disney transportation. So more people are staying on property than ever before. And where do all of those guests go during the day? The parks.

The way I see it, Disney created this out of hand over-crowding problem on their own. Now instead of building more areas for guests to flow into they raise the prices to curb attendance? :rolleyes:
And that's the problem...the failure to expand the core parks is the root of the problem. Hotel expansion only made it worse.

They know why they did it, but it's starting to become a problem. I guarantee this is partially in response to guest satisfaction surveys and the realization that "packing them in" only goes so far. If people aren't happy, they don't come back. They don't spend as much money. And they certainly aren't going to stay as long.

We'll see how the new additions help out, but I don't see them as nearly enough. If anything, they will just makes the parks more popular.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Let's also look at the # of rooms on WDW property now compared to pre 2000. In the last 15 years they have nearly doubled room capacity of both Resort & DVC rooms (and they are still building more). Many people staying at the resorts only use Disney transportation. So more people are staying on property than ever before. And where do all of those guests go during the day? The parks.

The way I see it, Disney created this out of hand over-crowding problem on their own. Now instead of building more areas for guests to flow into they raise the prices to curb attendance? :rolleyes:
I don't believe for a minute that the raised prices in an effort to curb attendance. They raised prices because the could. No motivation except increased revenue. The thinking being as long as we have this much hassle, we might as well make more money from it.
 

WondersOfLife

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I get that, but I also see the "We are never going back, they blow, they are greedy, this place is terrible, not worth it" posts and wonder why those people even bother or if most of those people are trolls. I am a Disneyphile, my husband can take it or leave it but I still love him. I question him, because he also does not like Elvis which is blasphemy in my family! LOL

I think it is a hard question to answer.. As I, myself, have said similar things as well.. I think they're more relating to what the parks once were, rather than how they are now.. While some might say that I'm trying to attack "old people" on these forums while saying that, I'm really not. Because when I was little, my parents could actually afford to take me and my sister down to Disney about 10 or 15 times a year (and we live in South Carolina!).. But now, it is nearly impossible to even go twice. On top of that, the parks have lately been losing quality and attractions (With the exception of Magic Kingdom)..

Right now, we are currently in an awkward situation with very slow construction in both Hollywood Studios and Avatarland in Animal Kingdom, and a lack of direction and theme in Epcot.. It is not that way no longer like Disney World.. It's just that we're complaining about the fact that the Walt Disney World resort didn't have to end up like this if Disney had just decided to fix these issues ahead of time rather than letting things just sit around and get outdated, closed, or have things close with no replacement in mind. Because there have been pretty much little upgrades to Walt Disney World in recent years, the issues have been piling on top of each other.

Universal was that way until Harry Potter came along.. Now, Universal Orlando is going to the extremes on opening to attractions and experiences almost every year or two... Disney, however, has three theme parks that they need to upgrade DRASTICALLY. And they are having a hard time doing that all at once.. So it is getting done very slowly.

Once Disney fixes these big issues in the next 10 or 15 years, and they CONTINUE to keep up with the parks.. THEN will people stop complaining so much on the forums.

Just my opinion on the situation.
 

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