Smoking Room?

[YoungNY]

I'm not a smoker which is probably why I didn't think of this till now. My friend is a smoker and I'm wondering if Disney offers smoking rooms. I don't ever remember being given the option to choose. If not can she smoke right outside the room door or does she have to go to a smoking section on property?

 

[DisneyDebNJ]

That's actually the reason I quit. My daughter was 4 years old (13 years ago) and I flicked my cigarette at the opening in my car window and I hit the cherry on the window edge. A lot of embers from the cigarette flew in and some landed on her and burned her. I felt so bad that I threw that cigarette and the two unopened packs out the window and haven't smoked a day since.

You, Sir are a GREAT Dad!!!!

 

[bubbles1812]

ummmm - if you hang around cars? You sort of are. Every day & every night. One atmosphere - little choice.

I was intrigued by the point you are trying to make so I decided to do some research. The latest stuff I could find for the United States was a Harvard study done in 2010/2011 that found that in the country's 83 largest urban centers (where risk is greatest), car emission carcinogens were responsible for 2200 deaths. Obviously the number is higher since it does not cover the whole country but still, all told, fairly low. A more recent study in the UK found that there are 13,000 premature deaths each year from car emissions. And according to the United Nations website, approximately 1 million or so people die each year due to car emissions.

On the other hand, according to the CDC website, about 443,000 deaths per year are caused by smoking in the US. An estimated 49,000 of these smoking-related deaths are the result of secondhand smoke exposure. According the the Cancer Research UK website, 102,000 people die each year due to smoking in the UK. Worldwide, again via the CDC, over 5 million people die each year from smoking related illness. By 2030, this number is expected to grow to 8 million! world wide. Smokers die, on average 13-14 years earlier than they would have if they had not smoked

This wasn't meant to be an attack on you for smoking. I was just genuinely curious about the stuff you were putting forth. But... you claimed this:

Second hand automobile emissions (the type that come from everyone in the WDW Parking Lot) are hitting you with a massive amount of contaminants. Is smoking bad? Probably - but it pales in comparison to the really BIG problems.

And I found it to be simply not true. If it was as you claim, there would be people dropping dead by the millions upon millions each year. What do the statistics tell us? Yes there are carcinogens in air from car emissions. But they are either not nearly as bad as those in cigarettes and tobacco products or at the very least, we are not inhaling them in the same amount smokers get from their cigarettes. Nicotine is not the only carcinogen in cigarettes. It's just the most addictive.

Are car emissions problems for many reasons? Sure. Global warming being one of them. But your claim that it is a bigger problem in terms of health/death each year...well, smoking wins out by a landslide and then some. (I saw statistics based on just smoking related illnesses versus car emission related illnesses as well, not just the absolute number of deaths as well. And yes, smoking still won, again, by a landslide)

Both are problems...but for me...well...I'll stick with just the car fumes and live my 13 extra years.

 

[G00fyDad]

ummmm - if you hang around cars? You sort of are. Every day & every night. One atmosphere - little choice.

No..... pretty sure my lips are not stuck to a tailpipe.

 

[Master Yoda]

Consider the Dolphin, or the Swan...

WDW owned hotels HAVE no smoking rooms... but a little known fact is that the Swan & Dolphin (could just be the Swan now) DO. These hotels are not Disney owned. No ME service to them - but they DO have on site Disney Bus Service.

Being a smoker... please, use the designated smoking areas. A good chunk of America is already preparing internment camps and badges for us - even though daily individual use automobile emissions are a FAR greater hazard to anyones health. Every 10 years or so, the majority of Americans need to find a group to classify as inferior, and the source of all evil... this decade (at least), we're it.

Per their web site, Both the Swan and Dolphin are all non-smoking.

STANDARD GUEST ROOMS

At the end of the day, our guest rooms offer the perfect retreat for rest and relaxation. All guest rooms at the Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin Resort offer a fresh, contemporary look that reflects a luxurious sophistication designed by world-renowned architect, Michael Graves.
The centerpiece of these rooms is The Westin Heavenly Bed® - featuring a pillow-top mattress, a white goose-down comforter, and four overstuffed pillows. You don’t just sleep in it, you lose yourself in it!
In addition, custom designed carpeting and draperies, accented by a Graves-designed insignia, compliment the designer wall coverings and make the Swan and Dolphin a richly appointed Disney resort.
Guest room features include:

• King or queen/queen-bedded rooms (Swan wing)
• King or double/double-bedded rooms (Dolphin wing)
• Fresh, contemporary decor
• High-speed Internet access
• A personalized in-room mini refrigerator service (Personal Pantry Service)
• In-room safe, which accommodates most lap top computers.
• 32" flat panel TV with 30 channels of your favorite HD programming including Showtime® and ESPN®
• Full bath (additional private vanity in some rooms)
• Two dual-line telephones (1 cordless) with voice mail messaging and data port
• Individual climate control
• Hair dryers
• Make-up mirror
• Iron/ironing board
• Complimentary daily weekday newspaper
• All rooms are non-smoking
• Disability accessible rooms available

http://www.swandolphin.com/accommodations/standard.html

 

[StingraySam]

Myself being a smoker I have no issues with the no smoking policy in the rooms, (I don't smoke in my own home either) and other than the occasional time on a private balcony (not common walkway but balcony off of the room and if someone is out on an adjacent balcony I will refrain) I always use the designated smoking areas. I have never found them to be too far or inconveinent from any room but in the same turn they aren't so close that I keep running back and forth at every urge. I will wait until I really want a smoke then take a stroll to my little area and for my family's comfort when I return I will even wash up when I get back to the room so to not "stink up the place". The issue I have is when I am in my designated area the disgusting looks and comments that still fly. I know some of these areas sometimes aren't exactly off the beaten path so try to be as considerate as possible anytime I am smoking but some of these areas are out of the way it really irks me when someone either by mistake or just cutting through has to come into these areas and give attitute. Sorry for the rant, got a little carried away! My point is, I think there are enough designated smoking areas in the resorts to accommodate most smokers, though it would be nice to have a few that could get you out of the rain.

 

[maryszhi]

nope. all rooms at wdw hotels are non smoking. there are designated areas where smoking is allowed.

 

[MissM]

I applaud your consideration... but I see that you still drive. You might be interested in this data...

http://www.forces.org/evidence/files/aircare.htm

*snip*

Seeing as that site and group pro-smoking and has ties to Big Tobacco, anything on the site is completely skewed and not even remotely neutral.

"FORCES is an acronym of Fight Ordinances and Restrictions to Control and Eliminate Smoking"​

In other words, I'm calling out the BS for what it is.

 

[bubbles1812]

Then let's take two studies, same geography - the UK. Here are the POSTED references... I never use the term "according to" - I choose to post actual references:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/244463.php
"Every year, 13,000 people in the UK die a premature death due to emissions from cars, trucks, planes and power plants"

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/can...vesmoking/smoking-and-cancer-secondhand-smoke
"Every year, second-hand smoke kills about 11,000 people in the UK from lung cancer, heart disease and strokes"

I see 13,000 per year dead due to second hand auto pollution, and 11,000 dead due to second hand tobacco smoke in the same geography. Please read the articles, and tell me if you see something different?

I should point out - I don't advocate smoking. I avoid trying to irritate others, and stick to designated smoking areas only. But I do feel that it's important to point out to others that just because they do NOT smoke? Doesn't mean that one isn't putting contaminants into the air in a significant fashion. About the only innocent person on earth is the fellow living off the grid, riding a bicycle every day.

I see those statistics, and I do see your point. But your post heavily implied, at least the way I read it, that the bigger health issue was emissions from cars, ect. And it is simply not true. Smoking is the single most preventable cause of disease and death in the United States.

You said "Is smoking bad? Probably (Not probably, by the way. It's a yes. Read about the history of the tobacco companies. It's truly fascinating. They knew it was bad almost from the beginning. They just didn't disclose it)-but it pales in comparison to the really BIG problems." From the standpoint of health/medicine, smoking is the much bigger issue. Sorry, but it just is. Those 11,000 dead from second hand smoke in the U.K. and 49,000 dead in the U.S.? And many many of those suffering the effects of second hand smoke, the one who suffer the consequences of that smoke later in life? Children. They can't exactly just walk away if a parent smokes. But all, all in that category of most preventable cause of disease and death. But I will concede your point that yes, car emissions are a problem, even though I do not agree with you on what is the bigger problem in terms of the health of people. Smoking is far far worse...see those total death tallies above per year for more details...

 

[Master Yoda]

Then let's take two studies, same geography - the UK. Here are the POSTED references... I never use the term "according to" - I choose to post actual references:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/244463.php
"Every year, 13,000 people in the UK die a premature death due to emissions from cars, trucks, planes and power plants"

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/can...vesmoking/smoking-and-cancer-secondhand-smoke
"Every year, second-hand smoke kills about 11,000 people in the UK from lung cancer, heart disease and strokes"

I see 13,000 per year dead due to second hand auto pollution, and 11,000 dead due to second hand tobacco smoke in the same geography. Please read the articles, and tell me if you see something different?

I should point out - I don't advocate smoking. I avoid trying to irritate others, and stick to designated smoking areas only. But I do feel that it's important to point out to others that just because they do NOT smoke? Doesn't mean that one isn't putting contaminants into the air in a significant fashion. About the only innocent person on earth is the fellow living off the grid, riding a bicycle every day.

The first question I would ask of both of those studies are how many cars, planes, power plants, etc are there compared to smokers. I would think that the number of all air pollution causing processes except for smoking would far out weigh the number of smokers. Considering that the number of deaths is so close it would appear that concentrating on smoking would be the most practical start. The fact that smoking is for all intents and purposes unnecessary makes it an even better target.

 

[YoungNY]

Wow. I had no idea my simple question would stir quite a discussion. Thank you, I think you all answered my question and many more.

 

[Steel City Magic]

I see those statistics, and I do see your point. But your post heavily implied, at least the way I read it, that the bigger health issue was emissions from cars, ect. And it is simply not true. Smoking is the single most preventable cause of disease and death in the United States.

You said "Is smoking bad? Probably (Not probably, by the way. It's a yes. Read about the history of the tobacco companies. It's truly fascinating. They knew it was bad almost from the beginning. They just didn't disclose it)-but it pales in comparison to the really BIG problems." From the standpoint of health/medicine, smoking is the much bigger issue. Sorry, but it just is. Those 11,000 dead from second hand smoke in the U.K. and 49,000 dead in the U.S.? And many many of those suffering the effects of second hand smoke, the one who suffer the consequences of that smoke later in life? Children. They can't exactly just walk away if a parent smokes. But all, all in that category of most preventable cause of disease and death. But I will concede your point that yes, car emissions are a problem, even though I do not agree with you on what is the bigger problem in terms of the health of people. Smoking is far far worse...see those total death tallies above per year for more details...

flat wrong. obesity has overtaken smoking as the leading cause of preventable death in the U.S.. also the cdc was heavily fined and sued in the early 90s and found guilty of wildly inflating their death numbers in their major study that started all of this. Major issue is that by the time they pulled the study and showed that it was 100% false, all the major govt associations ran with the report. So yes i am a smoker here and there, however just pointing out that both sides have lied big time and manufactured numbers. is it healthy? certainly not as bad as they say? probably not either. its up to you as a "smart" person to weed through the bs and stop persecuting people that dont have the same views. mainly the nonsmokers trying to restrict the smokers. lol ok rant over

 

[DManRightHere]

It is my understanding that each resort has a smoking area. I'd check the map for the resort you're going to be staying at and see where it's located.

Here's a map of Animal Kingdom Lodge that shows where the smoking areas are (I see three):

http://www.themouseforless.com/tripplanning/images/resortmaps/WDW_AKL.jpg

Wow, I'm glad I don't smoke. That's a long way to go for a cigarette. Maybe that's why I never saw anyone smoking at that resort.

I find it weird that it's a smoking area right by the restaurant. That's a major walkway.

 

[wendysue]

Wow, I'm glad I don't smoke. That's a long way to go for a cigarette. Maybe that's why I never saw anyone smoking at that resort.

I find it weird that it's a smoking area right by the restaurant. That's a major walkway.

And it's totally disgusting to have to walk past or through the smoking area to get to the lobby and the food court! I am actually talking about Pop Century. The smoking areas are right on the main walkways and near the food court..