Small Fire at MK Hub

donsullivan

Premium Member
I have to go off on a bit of a rant here toward those members of the community who feel compelled to find something negative in absolutely every single thing that Disney does on the WDW property and choose terms and phrases to emphasize the negative in nearly every thread they post in.

- Do you know that they 'cut down' the tree(s) and put them in a wood chipper vs. Disney removed them to the tree farm for potential re-use somewhere else on the property? In the absence of facts too many comments just go for the negative and accusatory tone.

- You do understand that this whole area is a construction zone and during construction things get messy before they get pretty- it's kind of how it works.

This looks like it was nothing more than a water pump to keep the construction area dry that seems to have overheated and caused a small fire. Stuff like this happens on constructions site everywhere all the time.

I've seriously considered abandoning this board altogether a number of times over the last year, not because of the way it's run but because I'm pretty much fed up with the growing portion of the community who seem to be incapable of anything but negative thought toward Disney. When the dialog reaches the point where nearly every post from a growing number of participants is negative and attacking Disney it gets old and looses it's effect. When folks choose to make it personal and start attacking individual people by name, you loose me. When you complain or have negative commentary about absolutely everything you no longer have any credibility. And then when others try to temper the dialog with some reasonable balance they too are attacked.

I think this thread may have just pushed me over the edge. It was a simple news piece about a piece of equipment that overheated in a construction zone in the park. Unfortunately it was turned into yet another complaining fest by the usual suspects.

It's become impossible to find any real information amongst the never ending whining and complaints that fill nearly every thread.

/END RANT
 

WDWLover#1

Well-Known Member
I have to go off on a bit of a rant here toward those members of the community who feel compelled to find something negative in absolutely every single thing that Disney does on the WDW property and choose terms and phrases to emphasize the negative in nearly every thread they post in.

- Do you know that they 'cut down' the tree(s) and put them in a wood chipper vs. Disney removed them to the tree farm for potential re-use somewhere else on the property? In the absence of facts too many comments just go for the negative and accusatory tone.

- You do understand that this whole area is a construction zone and during construction things get messy before they get pretty- it's kind of how it works.

This looks like it was nothing more than a water pump to keep the construction area dry that seems to have overheated and caused a small fire. Stuff like this happens on constructions site everywhere all the time.

I've seriously considered abandoning this board altogether a number of times over the last year, not because of the way it's run but because I'm pretty much fed up with the growing portion of the community who seem to be incapable of anything but negative thought toward Disney. When the dialog reaches the point where nearly every post from a growing number of participants is negative and attacking Disney it gets old and looses it's effect. When folks choose to make it personal and start attacking individual people by name, you loose me. When you complain or have negative commentary about absolutely everything you no longer have any credibility. And then when others try to temper the dialog with some reasonable balance they too are attacked.

I think this thread may have just pushed me over the edge. It was a simple news piece about a piece of equipment that overheated in a construction zone in the park. Unfortunately it was turned into yet another complaining fest by the usual suspects.

It's become impossible to find any real information amongst the never ending whining and complaints that fill nearly every thread.

/END RANT
Agree 100%.
 

DznyGrlSD

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
I agree with @donsullivan to an extent and I disagree...we're all Disney lovers here and we're accustomed to everything being perfect all the time and when it's not - we .

I understand everything can't magically happen overnight when the parks are closed but this is just "bad show." Walt would not have approved of the extent of the eyesores around "The World" and I'm not just talking construction. Just like the damn crane and the castle.
 

landauh

Active Member
I agree with @donsullivan to an extent and I disagree...we're all Disney lovers here and we're accustomed to everything being perfect all the time and when it's not - we .

I understand everything can't magically happen overnight when the parks are closed but this is just "bad show." Walt would not have approved of the extent of the eyesores around "The World" and I'm not just talking construction. Just like the damn crane and the castle.
When Walt was around DL was closed on Mondays and Tuesday's for maintenance. They also did construction with chain link fences. I watched as they worked on fixing Dumbo while guests were in the park as well as the construction of the Matterhorn and Monorail.
 
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donsullivan

Premium Member
I agree with @donsullivan to an extent and I disagree...we're all Disney lovers here and we're accustomed to everything being perfect all the time and when it's not - we .

I understand everything can't magically happen overnight when the parks are closed but this is just "bad show." Walt would not have approved of the extent of the eyesores around "The World" and I'm not just talking construction. Just like the damn crane and the castle.

So how do people think the castle was maintained and repainted for the last 40+ years? It has always required cranes and painters every time it went through a refresh/repainting cycle. And if the lower part of the castle required work, a portion of the moat was drained. I do not understand where this myth that the castle was magically maintained and the paint was always kept fresh but you never saw workers or cranes. It is just not based on any reality or actual history of any kind. The only difference is that in the last 12-15 years you see pictures of it on the Internet and the age of social media has accelerated that. Before that if you or a friend didn't happen to visit during the maintenance time you didn't even know it happened so it was magic. Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

This dream that everything used to be 'perfect' is just that- a dream and never was true. However if your early perspective is as a child (I have no idea how old the poster quoted above is, I'm generalizing here) it may have seemed that way. I happen to have never seen any of WDW as a child (too old) so my perspective has only been as an adult. Walt Disney World is a massive, complex infrastructure that is getting older by the day and beaten down by the Florida climate requires constant maintenance. You don't get to complain that nothing is ever being done and the place is not being maintained and then also complain that the place is being maintained. Then you are absolutely complaining for the sake of it.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I agree with @donsullivan to an extent and I disagree...we're all Disney lovers here and we're accustomed to everything being perfect all the time and when it's not - we .

I understand everything can't magically happen overnight when the parks are closed but this is just "bad show." Walt would not have approved of the extent of the eyesores around "The World" and I'm not just talking construction. Just like the damn crane and the castle.
Walt was a lot of things but one of them wasn't stupid. If you bother to look through construction pictures taken during Walt's time you will see that during construction there was a lot of eyesore occasions. You know what though, that was not important to anyone that knows the reality of physical life and what it takes to create a thing one can be proud of. Yes, he avoided it if he could, but, he was with it enough to know that it was not always possible.

One accidental fire probably caused by a gas spill on a motorized pump, does not create a bad show. A temporarily exposed back of show buildings while constructing a new set, is not a "bad show". it is a necessary evil of improvement. From regular ground level it probably isn't all that visible anyway, if at all.

One of the most unthoughtout complaints is the crane. If you can tell them how else things get taken care of, I'm sure they will do it another way. Should the workers all be suspended by ropes, endangering their safety so everyone can get a pretty picture? Not sure all those people hanging from ropes all over the building would make for a pretty picture anyway. Would everyone be happier with a Scrim?
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Yeah, didn't the worker throw water on it first and it clearly didn't make a difference, so he grabbed a fire extinquisher. The fact is in the world of social media, we see EVERYTHING now. And that's not always a good thing. Social media is just not a very good thing, IMO. There HAS to be a separation. To me, they should be tools to keep in touch, not interact with celebrities and post every single construction update. But that's just me. Most seem to love social media. It has it's purpose but that's been completely taken to the extremes. All IMHO :)
 

wdwfan22

Well-Known Member
I have to go off on a bit of a rant here toward those members of the community who feel compelled to find something negative in absolutely every single thing that Disney does on the WDW property and choose terms and phrases to emphasize the negative in nearly every thread they post in.

- Do you know that they 'cut down' the tree(s) and put them in a wood chipper vs. Disney removed them to the tree farm for potential re-use somewhere else on the property? In the absence of facts too many comments just go for the negative and accusatory tone.

- You do understand that this whole area is a construction zone and during construction things get messy before they get pretty- it's kind of how it works.

This looks like it was nothing more than a water pump to keep the construction area dry that seems to have overheated and caused a small fire. Stuff like this happens on constructions site everywhere all the time.

I've seriously considered abandoning this board altogether a number of times over the last year, not because of the way it's run but because I'm pretty much fed up with the growing portion of the community who seem to be incapable of anything but negative thought toward Disney. When the dialog reaches the point where nearly every post from a growing number of participants is negative and attacking Disney it gets old and looses it's effect. When folks choose to make it personal and start attacking individual people by name, you loose me. When you complain or have negative commentary about absolutely everything you no longer have any credibility. And then when others try to temper the dialog with some reasonable balance they too are attacked.

I think this thread may have just pushed me over the edge. It was a simple news piece about a piece of equipment that overheated in a construction zone in the park. Unfortunately it was turned into yet another complaining fest by the usual suspects.

It's become impossible to find any real information amongst the never ending whining and complaints that fill nearly every thread.

/END RANT

I agree 100%
 

UncleMike101

Well-Known Member
o_O

- Do you know that they 'cut down' the tree(s) and put them in a wood chipper vs. Disney removed them to the tree farm for potential re-use somewhere else on the property? In the absence of facts too many comments just go for the negative and accusatory tone.

- You do understand that this whole area is a construction zone and during construction things get messy before they get pretty- it's kind of how it works.

This looks like it was nothing more than a water pump to keep the construction area dry that seems to have overheated and caused a small fire. Stuff like this happens on constructions site everywhere all the time.

I've seriously considered abandoning this board altogether a number of times over the last year, not because of the way it's run but because I'm pretty much fed up with the growing portion of the community who seem to be incapable of anything but negative thought toward Disney. When the dialog reaches the point where nearly every post from a growing number of participants is negative and attacking Disney it gets old and looses it's effect. When folks choose to make it personal and start attacking individual people by name, you loose me. When you complain or have negative commentary about absolutely everything you no longer have any credibility. And then when others try to temper the dialog with some reasonable balance they too are attacked.

I think this thread may have just pushed me over the edge. It was a simple news piece about a piece of equipment that overheated in a construction zone in the park. Unfortunately it was turned into yet another complaining fest by the usual suspects.

It's become impossible to find any real information amongst the never ending whining and complaints that fill nearly every thread.

/END RANT[/QUOTE]
Well..
I still think it's gonna put the kibosh on the evening wiener roast......:depressed:
 

Goofnut1980

Well-Known Member
I am always excited to see the little things they do for improvements.

I think the big complaint about the crane that people tend to forget is, pre-2007 we didn't have lights on the castle for Christmas. Now with that being done over a few weeks twice a year, people see the cranes more than the paint job once ever 5-10 years.

I may not understand why they do the construction in the order or chaos it seems done, but I know it will be done right.

Only 12 days and I will get to visit home again!
 

Mot

Active Member
Aren't there hoses right near the base of the flame?
Being a firefighter and a construction worker of 37 yrs., it appears to be a dewatering pump that either overheated and caught fire or the exhaust was to close to the plastic fabric curtain. The smoke is the color that is given off when plastic burns. The fire on the pump may have been fueled by a burnt or broken fuel line that also tends to be a darker colored smoke as well.
PS
Can all others stick to topic for once?
 

DManRightHere

Well-Known Member
Being a firefighter and a construction worker of 37 yrs., it appears to be a dewatering pump that either overheated and caught fire or the exhaust was to close to the plastic fabric curtain. The smoke is the color that is given off when plastic burns. The fire on the pump may have been fueled by a burnt or broken fuel line that also tends to be a darker colored smoke as well.
PS
Can all others stick to topic for once?

I don't understand how I'm off topic responding to someone who said the fire "looked like a controlled burn" and I noted there are hoses near the base of the fire (which you probably would not have done for a controlled fire).
 

AndyS2992

Well-Known Member
I don't understand how I'm off topic responding to someone who said the fire "looked like a controlled burn" and I noted there are hoses near the base of the fire (which you probably would not have done for a controlled fire).
You're not, his main paragraph was aimed at you, the PS was for everyone else.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I don't understand how I'm off topic responding to someone who said the fire "looked like a controlled burn" and I noted there are hoses near the base of the fire (which you probably would not have done for a controlled fire).
I don't think he meant for YOU to stay on topic....he had just replied to your post, then chastised others for being off topic.
 

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