Small bus collision in Animal Kingdom...

[Tom]

You wee not there and we were... Everyone was ready to get off that bus. The people in the wheelchairs and their families were calling Disney officials and reporting this man. He was not paying one bit of attention. Yes we were barely behind the line but he slammed on the breaks hard enough to sling people forward into us and the wheelchair that was not hooked properly by this man.. We screamed for him to stop. He was not watching out his front windsheild.He would have killed the family in the small car. They are a little wild and should take it a little easier on breaks and corners. I think most of us would rather get there safe than in a hurry. We were in no hurry at any time . He told us to get on the bus that there was plenty of room.. Not so.

Ok, then please don't generalize or stereotype. You had one driver who seemed rushed and didn't see something - perhaps a bad driver.

This doesn't mean Disney Bus Drivers are all bad and dangerous. You simply run a risk when you're standing on a moving vehicle.

If it were truly unsafe, one of our many helpful government agencies would have stepped in by now and outlawed standing on buses, trains and subways. I think in most cases, you just have to know how to ride public transportation - and not everyone does.

I, for one, love the WDW bus system. Again, I get frustrated when I'm standing in line at closing and it seems as if 30 buses come for every other resort except mine (no matter which one I'm staying at), but other than their poor dispatch system, they move a ton of people safely.

 

[JustInTime]

Was this a collision of small buses? Or a small collision of a bus? As long as it wasn't a short bus, I think that we might be ok.... :lookaroun

Lol. It was a normal bus. it just wasn't a major crash. Nobody was hurt. I would imagine, however, that the two busses wont we running untill they get fixed.

 

[jakeman]

Odds of being killed on a 5-mile bus trip: 500,000,000 to 1

Odds of being killed by lightning: 2,320,000 to 1

Now You Know, Volume 4: The Book of Answers By Doug Lennox

 

[jjbuster2]

When we stayed at OKW back '06 there was this same guy on the resort bus (the one that just travels around the OKW compound) like every time we got on it. He was really friendly, full of odd trivia facts, and so 1 night we asked him if he ever got bored of just driving in circles all the time and he said no, he loved his route.

I wonder if maybe he just felt safer with less drivers to run into (so to speak) both Disney bus drivers and tourists alike...:lookaroun

I don't know his name but, "If your still out there dude, just keep driving in circles. I've not heard of any crashes at OKW!" :wave:

 

[JustInTime]

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[CBOMB]

Odds of being killed on a 5-mile bus trip: 500,000,000 to 1

Odds of being killed by lightning: 2,320,000 to 1

Now You Know, Volume 4: The Book of Answers By Doug Lennox

What are the odds of being struck by lightning on a 5 mile bus trip at WDW?

Anybody that thinks having children, pregnate women or women holding babies, standing on a moving bus, is safe, and natural, really has a problem.

Let's see what we are willing to accept. Disney, that use to set the standards in the way their guest were treated only has to meet the standards of the metro bus systems in other cities. That doesn't seem very Magical.

I've got an idea. Why don't they designate pushers like they have in the Tokyo subway system. Man, they could really make use of the space on a bus then.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Or they could attach some ropes and tow the wheel chairs

 

[KC82271]

Havinbg been to the world approx 20 times, and the average stay is 5 days, that is approx. 200 bus rides on Disney Transportation buses. I can say that only once was I on a bus that I wasn't comfortable with the driver. I want to give the drivers credit. They transport how many people, how many miles a day? It's insane - but for a few number of accidents - I would rather ride on a Disney bus than drive my own car. There are many more idiots that drive their personal cars that don't know where they are going. I would be more afraid of hitting one of them myself - whereas the drivers do this on a daily basis and have a better understanding of the roads there.

As for standing on a bus, I am one of those that waits until the next empty bus comes where I won't have to stand. With or without kids, I just prefer to sit. Plus, days when I have had to stand - it is only in the back.

 

[jakeman]

What are the odds of being struck by lightning on a 5 mile bus trip at WDW?

Anybody that thinks having children, pregnate women or women holding babies, standing on a moving bus, is safe, and natural, really has a problem.

Let's see what we are willing to accept. Disney, that use to set the standards in the way their guest were treated only has to meet the standards of the metro bus systems in other cities. That doesn't seem very Magical.

I've got an idea. Why don't they designate pushers like they have in the Tokyo subway system. Man, they could really make use of the space on a bus then.

If those folks or their parents have a problem then they are more than welcome to wait for another bus where a seat is available. That's personal responsibility, not a system issue.

If they are last on a bus and need to stand, then they would have to had wait for another bus anyways if there was a "no standing" rule.

The odds speak for themselves. The danger is minimal. Should we have everyone wear rubber suits while in the parks as well? Just in case of those lightning strikes?

You do realize that people have been standing on buses at Disney since the bus system was started? This is a non-issue unless we are going to decry every non magical thing at WDW since the resort opened in 1971.

 

[CBOMB]

If those folks or their parents have a problem then they are more than welcome to wait for another bus where a seat is available. That's personal responsibility, not a system issue.

If they are last on a bus and need to stand, then they would have to had wait for another bus anyways if there was a "no standing" rule.

The odds speak for themselves. The danger is minimal. Should we have everyone wear rubber suits while in the parks as well? Just in case of those lightning strikes?

You do realize that people have been standing on buses at Disney since the bus system was started? This is a non-issue unless we are going to decry every non magical thing at WDW since the resort opened in 1971.

Safety should never be a personal responsibility issue. People do not always make wise choices when they are tired, and want to get back to the resort. Everybody that has seen children standing on a bus please raise your hand.

Everything is a non-issue at WDW, until something happens.

I believe the only thing I was decrying was the safety standards of some groups of people standing on the bus. You were really playing the drama queen by invoking the 1971 date, and wearing rubber suits. Even though I do consider rubbers a good form of protection.

 

[jakeman]

Safety should never be a personal responsibility issue. People do not always make wise choices when they are tired, and want to get back to the resort. Everybody that has seen children standing on a bus please raise your hand.

Everything is a non-issue at WDW, until something happens.

I believe the only thing I was decrying was the safety standards of some groups of people standing on the bus. You were really playing the drama queen by invoking the 1971 date, and wearing rubber suits. Even though I do consider rubbers a good form of protection.

So there is no personal responsibility for safety? A parent has no responsibility over their child?

I disagree. Not really much else to say.

I was also just pointing out that this isn't something new that has popped up over the past 2-3 years. It is something that has been around as long as their has been buses at Disney. You are the one who used people standing on the bus as a measuring stick for the decline of the magical Disney vacation, I was just providing a date for when that magic may have started to decline (I'll admit I don't know when they started using buses).

 

[CBOMB]

So there is no personal responsibility for safety? A parent has no responsibility over their child?

I disagree. Not really much else to say.

I was also just pointing out that this isn't something new that has popped up over the past 2-3 years. It is something that has been around as long as their has been buses at Disney. You are the one who used people standing on the bus as a measuring stick for the decline of the magical Disney vacation, I was just providing a date for when that magic may have started to decline (I'll admit I don't know when they started using buses).

I don't think safety should be left up solely to the parent. We have laws, and rules in place to protect both children, and adults. Seatbelts, and child car seats are two that come to mind right now.

I never said that people standing on a bus was a measuring stick for the decline of a WDW vacation. I merely said it was not a safe practice. I'm well aware that standing on the bus did not just start either. It's been going on since I've been going to the World, and I'm sure it's been going on since the first bus rides there. I just believe it is not a safe practice back then nor is it a safe practice now.

I firmly believe that WDW should provide a better, and safer means of transportation than it does now.

I merely think they should exceed their guest expectations in all areas of operation. It's not my fault that I feel that way either. They programed me to think that way.

I don't know when the first buses started running either. I would imagine it was when the first resort was built that wasn't on the monorail line or when EPCOT Center opened in 1982.

 

[luckyeye13]

I don't think safety should be left up solely to the parent. We have laws, and rules in place to protect both children, and adults. Seatbelts, and child car seats are two that come to mind right now.

The law also allows standing on transit buses, as is common not just in WDW, but absolutely everywhere on this and, possibly, on all other planets.

 

[CBOMB]

The law also allows standing on transit buses, as is common not just in WDW, but absolutely everywhere on this and, possibly, on all other planets.

So you're saying it's not only legal for children to stand on buses, it's also the right thing to do?

 

[luckyeye13]

So you're saying it's not only legal for children to stand on buses, it's also the right thing to do?

After riding public transit (buses and other modes) all over the world since I was young (I was born in a city where few people had cars, so I went by transit everywhere.), that is exactly what I am saying. After all, people (children included) stand on trains, no? I don't hear anyone crying about how no one, especially the poor children, should stand on the monorail or the watercraft. As for the legality issue, please show me where in the law children are forbidden from standing on the bus (except forward of the standee line, which is a law that pertains to everyone).

 

[CBOMB]

After riding public transit (buses and other modes) all over the world since I was young (I was born in a city where few people had cars, so I went by transit everywhere.), that is exactly what I am saying. After all, people (children included) stand on trains, no? I don't hear anyone crying about how no one, especially the poor children, should stand on the monorail or the watercraft. As for the legality issue, please show me where in the law children are forbidden from standing on the bus (except forward of the standee line, which is a law that pertains to everyone).

So you are content for WDW to met the minimum standards of any transit system in the world?

Edit: I've never said it was illegal for pregnant women or people holding small children or small children themselves to stand. You don't need to point the legality out on that subject. I am merely saying I don't think it's a safe practice to engage in, and that WDW should be better than the average transit systems. That goes for all means of transportation at WDW also, and yes I know safety would be very costly.

 

[Tom]

So you are content for WDW to met the minimum standards of any transit system in the world?

Edit: I've never said it was illegal for pregnant women or people holding small children or small children themselves to stand. You don't need to point the legality out on that subject. I am merely saying I don't think it's a safe practice to engage in, and that WDW should be better than the average transit systems. That goes for all means of transportation at WDW also, and yes I know safety would be very costly.

RIGHT! Disney should ban standing on all transportation - monorail, ferry and buses. They can limit capacity to a safe 100 on monorails, 25 on buses, and something in between for ferries. That would be the right thing to do.

:lookaroun

 

[CBOMB]

RIGHT! Disney should ban standing on all transportation - monorail, ferry and buses. They can limit capacity to a safe 100 on monorails, 25 on buses, and something in between for ferries. That would be the right thing to do.

:lookaroun

Why must people always exaggerate when they are trying to make a point.
I merely feel that whatever the seated capacity is for that particular mode of transportation is should me maintained.

There is always exception to the rule such as the large enclosed watercraft. This allows for both a safer, and more pleasanr trip. I'm also almost 100% sure that it is a policy that will never even be considered, much less implemented, by the WDC.

 

[luckyeye13]

I'm also almost 100% sure that it is a policy that will never even be considered, much less implemented, by the WDC.

And thankfully so.