Skull Island: Reign of Kong from construction to opening

JT3000

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Maybe it's not going to matter when it's in 3D and the ride vehicle is in motion, but what I've seen of the in-ride CGI has been kind of pathetic.
Low-poly models, flat backgrounds (again, maybe with 3D it won't matter) and some of the worst light mapping I've seen since The Scorpion King.
For the record, I haven't ridden the Hollywood version.

I'm not sure what all you've seen, but it was definitely from Kong 360 in Hollywood, which they've been using to promote this ride. None of Skull Island's 3D animation has been leaked as far as I'm aware.
 

Disneyhead'71

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This isn't going to turn out well for those poor drivers.

Skull Island is closer to Jurassic Park than The Magic Kingdom in every way.

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Bairstow

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Yeah, that's all taken directly from Kong 360. I don't know how much they'll keep (in terms of action), but the film itself will have to redone for various reasons.

I would imagine that the bit of film to be used for this attraction has been done for some time. Remember, this is footage Universal themselves released yesterday specifically in reference to the Florida version of the ride.
 

JT3000

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I would imagine that the bit of film to be used for this attraction has been done for some time. Remember, this is footage Universal themselves released yesterday specifically in reference to the Florida version of the ride.

It could be from Skull Island's film, but it isn't unusual for them to use footage of a different version of an attraction to hype a clone (or something like it.) In fact, they do it regularly.

You also have to remember that these things always look different up on screens than they do when taken from the raw video file. Spider-Man's remastered film also looked ridiculous in some of the promotional material. I haven't seen Kong 360 in-person, so can't really comment on how it looks.
 
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dweezil78

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So this thing basically follows the same formula as the original Universal Florida attractions, eh? (i.e. Kongfrontation, Earthquake, and Jaws) Looks like just a plussed up version of a small segment from our tram tour out here in Hollywood -- a 3D tunnel with maybe a dash of Jungle Cruise? Even the ride vehicles look like themed version of our tram cars.

Looks like they are doing the same with Fast and Furious too. Kind of a bummer that they'd return to that original approach of attraction when they've been pushing the envelope so hard out in Florida for the past 20 years with Potter, Spidey, etc.. Kong and Fast and Furious are both cool little segments on the tram tour (a 30-something minute attraction with often a 30 min or less wait) -- but as standalones you're going to see hour+ waits for just a tiny little 4-5 min piece (with extra theming). That's just crazy to me.
 

celluloid

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So this thing basically follows the same formula as the original Universal Florida attractions, eh? (i.e. Kongfrontation, Earthquake, and Jaws) Looks like just a plussed up version of a small segment from our tram tour out here in Hollywood -- a 3D tunnel with maybe a dash of Jungle Cruise? Even the ride vehicles look like themed version of our tram cars.

Looks like they are doing the same with Fast and Furious too. Kind of a bummer that they'd return to that original approach of attraction when they've been pushing the envelope so hard out in Florida for the past 20 years with Potter, Spidey, etc.. Kong and Fast and Furious are both cool little segments on the tram tour (a 30-something minute attraction with often a 30 min or less wait) -- but as standalones you're going to see hour+ waits for just a tiny little 4-5 min piece (with extra theming). That's just crazy to me.

Everything is the industry is a prototype for next best thing. Universal is topping Spiderman and Kong360 was a prototype for ONE scene in this new attraction.

The tram tour experiences expansions into full attractions
Back to the Future was built with the purpose to top Star Tours' innovations. (which later in concept Disney came back with Soarin')
Spiderman was a mix of T2-3D's and Indiana Jones Adventure's success.
Toy Story Mania was a combination of a few successful elements of 4D film in dark rides and successful elements of Buzz Lightyear and interactive shooters like Men in Black.

Not to mention its also why MGM Studios was even built.

What matters is who is leading with that technology in terms of not just the latest, that is a side factor, but who is doing it better. And critics say its Universal. Guest growth has said its Universal.

The reason I bolded small segment is because the 3D tunnel portions will only be a small segment. its one aspect. Hence why 360 served as a prototype as such. The same way The Matterhorn served as a prototype for what could be done with steel tubular track for roller coasters.

I bolded the other part of your post because these are not just rethemed tram cars. They are autonomous ride vehicles and no driver, and I don't want to ruin any surprises but you will not have a Jungle Cruise skipper like experience.
 

AliciaStella

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So this thing basically follows the same formula as the original Universal Florida attractions, eh? (i.e. Kongfrontation, Earthquake, and Jaws) Looks like just a plussed up version of a small segment from our tram tour out here in Hollywood -- a 3D tunnel with maybe a dash of Jungle Cruise? Even the ride vehicles look like themed version of our tram cars.

Looks like they are doing the same with Fast and Furious too. Kind of a bummer that they'd return to that original approach of attraction when they've been pushing the envelope so hard out in Florida for the past 20 years with Potter, Spidey, etc.. Kong and Fast and Furious are both cool little segments on the tram tour (a 30-something minute attraction with often a 30 min or less wait) -- but as standalones you're going to see hour+ waits for just a tiny little 4-5 min piece (with extra theming). That's just crazy to me.
Well, more than extra theming, as we already know we will have five different characters to be the drivers, and each with their own backstory, which adds more story to the ride over Hollywood. The ride vehicles are programed and trackless. The ride scenes will have several stops with motion bases, rather than just one for 360, which means at very least 2 extra scenes with new footage. And we will most certainly have an animatronic Kong, along with other animatronic characters. There will be (at least some) actual jungle theming inside the show building, not just a screen tunnel, as well. All that together equals a lot more than just a ported over version of 360. And from what I have heard, and watched on youtube, the Kong 360 segment of the tram tour is pretty cool, so I'm glad we get our own version of it here... but I think we have at least twice as much ride to ours, which totally makes waiting in line for it worth it to me.

I don't blame Universal for making the most of their efforts and bringing rides to multiple parks throughout the world. I love Transformers and never was part of the crowd that was upset that we got a cloned ride. It's a great attraction and I might never have had the chance to ride if they didn't build it here as I do not travel to the west coast much. And I feel the same way about Kong. Personally I am a huge fan of WETA Digital and they did the ride film for Kong 360, which was the largest, highest resolution 3D film ever rendered when it came out, and to a nerd like me, that's pretty awesome. So, I personally cannot wait for the new incarnation to open, even if it was just a clone (which I'm thinking it's gonna be a little more).

 

dweezil78

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Oh don't get me wrong -- I have absolutely nothing against cloning attractions or using one attraction as an experimental opportunity to do something even bigger for another. I just think stretching segments from the tram tour, in particular, is kind of a cop out.

The show building for IOA's Kong really doesn't look all that much bigger than the one at USH when you strip away room for the queue and outside theming -- and with the ride vehicle's size and 72 person capacity, I can't imagine there's going to be much room for any kind of exciting maneuvering other than the motion platform it will roll onto. Realistically, how much beyond the 3D tunnel can really in happen in that thing?
 

AliciaStella

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Oh don't get me wrong -- I have absolutely nothing against cloning attractions or using one attraction as an experimental opportunity to do something even bigger for another. I just think stretching segments from the tram tour, in particular, is kind of a cop out.

The show building for IOA's Kong really doesn't look all that much bigger than the one at USH when you strip away room for the queue and outside theming -- and with the ride vehicle's size and 72 person capacity, I can't imagine there's going to be much room for any kind of exciting maneuvering other than the motion platform it will roll onto. Realistically, how much beyond the 3D tunnel can really in happen in that thing?
Well, the big scene in IOA's version is more akin to the big screen scene in Gringott's and not the long tunnel of Hollywood's 360. Since we only have one car's worth of tram, each scene doesn't need to be a long tunnel of screens. The building is about the same size as Gringot's, so you can see about how many scenes they can cram in there, (and without needing the extra room for roller coaster track). There won't be any dark spaces in this ride either, instead there will be jungle and animatronic scenes to tie together several screen based scenes, only one of which will be like the one in Hollywood.
 

celluloid

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Excellent point! Had not factored that in.

(typo)
Oh don't get me wrong -- I have absolutely nothing against cloning attractions or using one attraction as an experimental opportunity to do something even bigger for another. I just think stretching segments from the tram tour, in particular, is kind of a cop out.

The show building for IOA's Kong really doesn't look all that much bigger than the one at USH when you strip away room for the queue and outside theming -- and with the ride vehicle's size and 72 person capacity, I can't imagine there's going to be much room for any kind of exciting maneuvering other than the motion platform it will roll onto. Realistically, how much beyond the 3D tunnel can really in happen in that thing?


I hope it did not seem like I was attacking or coming off condescending. If so, I sincerely apologize. I just don't think people realize how radically different many aspects of this will be from the 360 experience.

And as far as slight movement capabilities. Think about how drifting over a cliff can feel if the back half or front half of the vehicle is pitched and sliding at a different angle than the other.
 
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