Simpsons land?

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Centauri Space Station

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mickEblu said:
Does the blessing of size matter when they constantly replace instead of add?
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TRON, Ratatouille, Millennium Falcon, Be Our Guest, Enchanted Tales with Bell, Pandora, Space 220 were all built on unused land previously while Monsters Coaster will be in an unused lot and Encanto is using part of space that was occupied by a wild mouse coaster for a dark ride.
 
wityblack

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I mean, yeah it's not fun for us, but rides become more costly to maintain over time, plus they need staffing (maintenance day and night crews, ride ops, managers), they become less of a draw if they lose effects or don't get updated or the IP loses popularity, plus depending on what replaces it, it can cut the cost of a new attraction by reusing layout or infrastructure, which in case makes the new attraction open faster and start earning it's return on investment quicker. It's just business. You can't have infinite growth without raising prices much more dramatically than they have already (plus the extra they already charge for corporate greed)
 
Rich T

Rich T

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At this point, I’m done giving a rat’s patooty what Bob-era Disney does (I think the Last Straw for me was the announcement that they were replacing classic Frontierland at MK with a new corporate definition of “Frontier” that includes talking cars).

They can tear down Main Street and replace it with Anastasia Avenue for all I care.

They can make a live action feature film of Steamboat Willie featuring photorealistic rodents.

I’ll always love the classic Disney that once was. I’ll give today’s Disney corporation my entertainment bucks if and when they ever build anything I’m actually interested in experiencing. And when it comes to Disney parks… that would mean respecting what Disney actually means (or once meant). So I’m not holding my breath.

Epic Universe in 5 months!
 
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Rich T

Rich T

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wityblack said:
I mean, yeah it's not fun for us, but rides become more costly to maintain over time, plus they need staffing (maintenance day and night crews, ride ops, managers), they become less of a draw if they lose effects or don't get updated or the IP loses popularity, plus depending on what replaces it, it can cut the cost of a new attraction by reusing layout or infrastructure, which in case makes the new attraction open faster and start earning it's return on investment quicker. It's just business. You can't have infinite growth without raising prices much more dramatically than they have already (plus the extra they already charge for corporate greed)
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The problem for me is what the replacements end up being.
 
TheRealSkull

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This is a hard no from me. The Simpsons have their place, and sure they are now technically owned by Disney. But their brand does not equate to what many would call Disney magic. It's irreverently satirical and would clash with Disney's target audiences.
 
CaptinEO

CaptinEO

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TheRealSkull said:
This is a hard no from me. The Simpsons have their place, and sure they are now technically owned by Disney. But their brand does not equate to what many would call Disney magic. It's irreverently satirical and would clash with Disney's target audiences.
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I agree but we already have Guardians of the Galaxy rides and their satirical humor on both coasts, I don't think Disney cares.

They also don't mind pushing irrelevant IP to keep brands alive. Muppets peaked decades ago as did the Simpsons but they are now headlining an E Ticket.
 
TP2000

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If it doesn't have a Macheezmo Mouse taco stand made to look exactly like it looked on NW 23rd Street in Portland circa 1985 with a free stack of Willamette Week alt-weekly newspapers by the door, which on the back pages beyond the kinky personal ads contained a weird little cartoon strip by native Portlander Matt Groening called Life In Hell, then I'm not going.

Or, if TDA can't do that because they're too square and too rigid to get Portland in the 80's, then at least have a queue TV playing a 1987 episode of the Tracy Ullman Show on Fox with the Simpsons cartoon bumpers.

But something tells me neither core, foundational concept will make the cut. Which means I'm not going. :cool:
 
NobodyElse

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TP2000 said:
If it doesn't have a Macheezmo Mouse taco stand made to look exactly like it looked on NW 23rd Street in Portland circa 1985 with a free stack of Willamette Week alt-weekly newspapers by the door, which on the back pages beyond the kinky personal ads contained a weird little cartoon strip by native Portlander Matt Groening called Life In Hell, then I'm not going.

Or, if TDA can't do that because they're too square and too rigid to get Portland in the 80's, then at least have a queue TV playing a 1987 episode of the Tracy Ullman Show on Fox with the Simpsons cartoon bumpers.

But something tells me neither core, foundational concept will make the cut. Which means I'm not going. :cool:
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I still break out this fine collection from time to time:
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(This was the follow up to "Work is Hell", "School is Hell", etc. Then they made the wise decision to put them all together. And yes, there is a comprehensive index.)

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choco choco

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SuddenStorm said:
Isn't the general consensus that the Simpsons stopped being consistently good after like season 10? Which was like 25 years ago?

I feel like the Simpsons relevance in the public eye isn't what it used to be. It's still a good property- but I don't think building a land that should last decades is the right play.

And any Simpsons presence should only be in DCA.
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The Simpsons is the only property from the Fox purchase that can be counted on to make money (the jury's still out on Avatar).

They sell a ton of merchandise and their show reliably gets ratings, at least enough to justify its continued production. The show seems like it might outlive its principal talent, which is an honor given to very few cultural icons.

Their relevance among youth, in my eyes, is about equal to Star Wars. It's sh** that kids hear their parents talk about all the time and they roll their eyes at.
 
Karakasa

Karakasa

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SuddenStorm said:
Isn't the general consensus that the Simpsons stopped being consistently good after like season 10? Which was like 25 years ago?

I feel like the Simpsons relevance in the public eye isn't what it used to be. It's still a good property- but I don't think building a land that should last decades is the right play.

And any Simpsons presence should only be in DCA.
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Based on what I know, the last five seasons or so (31-35) have been of better quality than the middle stretch of 11-30, and way better than the 22-30 seasons. I can't confirm or deny as I haven't watched them, but I wouldn't be surprised. The people working on the show now probably would've grown up watching it and know what works and what doesn't.

That said, its current relevance isn't worth giving it a whole land. An attraction? Certainly. But I'm not sure where you'd put it at DLR. Then again we're apparently getting Pandora in DCA so, what do I know?
 

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