Shanghai Disneyland opens May 11

TP2000

TP2000

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DisneyEthan said:
Shanghai released a video about the opening procedures
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This will never work in America at Disneyland.

Firstly, requiring government issued ID is problematic and politically incorrect in the USA.

Secondly, the entire AP business model falls apart very quickly if you have to secure a reservation days in advance of your visit. Can you imagine a family of four from Riverside where only two of them get a reservation for Sunday? What are the other two supposed to do, go to church or Target while the rest of the family frolics at Disneyland? Or if you are a Disneybounding and Instagramming single hipster who wants to go to Disneyland on Friday evening, but two of your other three friends failed to get a reservation in advance for Friday, what do you do? Can you imagine how Social Clubs would work if half the crew can't get into the park on your day to rumble at Pizza Port?

The entire Annual Passholder concept falls apart quickly with the requirement for advanced (and limited) reservations.
 
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fctiger

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TP2000 said:
This will never work in America at Disneyland.



Secondly, the entire AP business model falls apart very quickly if you have to secure a reservation days in advance of your visit. Can you imagine a family of four from Riverside where only two of them get a reservation for Sunday? What are the other two supposed to do, go to church or Target while the rest of the family frolics at Disneyland? Or if you are a Disneybounding and Instagramming single hipster who wants to go to Disneyland on Friday evening, but two of your other three friends failed to get a reservation in advance for Friday, what do you do? Can you imagine how Social Clubs would work if half the crew can't get into the park on your day to rumble at Pizza Port?

The entire Annual Passholder concept falls apart quickly with the requirement for advanced (and limited) reservations.
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First off, how else can you control lower capacity without a reservation system? Especially something the size of Disney resorts? What would the solution be, first come first serve and the first 30,000 who gets in the park that day wins? That would be chaos and it would do the opposite of what it was meant to do and keep a controlled number of people coming to the resort.

Honestly, people want things to open up faster, fine, but there are going to be lots of concessions to do it, especially when testing is still at a low level. Sure some people will complain, but if the alternative is this or keep the park closed indefinitely until there is some treatment I think most will still prefer the former. And I think the 'social clubs' are going to have to be a lot less social for awhile.
 
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Tinkwings

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I find it very interesting, but not surprising, how quickly those ressies got snatched up! ;) JUST 3 MORE DAYS to open!!! It makes me happy in some way it is opening even with all those protocols.....it is a wee bit of hope....but hope none the less that it is a step which I again hope doesn't go backwards ever again.:angelic: My Disney stock is up this morning highest level in 8 weeks....could it be because of this anticipated opening?

How many of us are going to be watching those pics and videos of Shanghai next few weeks vicariously and dreaming of our own return to a Disney park?:happy:🏰💕
 
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TP2000

TP2000

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TINKWINGS said:
I find it very interesting, but not surprising, how quickly those ressies got snatched up! ;) JUST 3 MORE DAYS to open!!! It makes me happy in some way it is opening even with all those protocols.....it is a wee bit of hope....but hope none the less that it is a step which I again hope doesn't go backwards ever again.:angelic: My Disney stock is up this morning highest level in 8 weeks....could it be because of this anticipated opening?

How many of us are going to be watching those pics and videos of Shanghai next few weeks vicariously and dreaming of our own return to a Disney park?:happy:🏰💕
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I am looking forward to the videos of how this works in Shanghai.

The lines and social customs on display at Shanghai Disneyland were... infamous, to put it politely. It should be really fun to see how the visitors behave and how the CM's try to operate queues and such next week.

I can easily imagine that the attendance cap is starting very, very low on purpose next week. That way, they'll observe and adjust and then start inching the attendance cap up gradually as they get a handle on things.
 
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fctiger

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Phrubruh said:
Reservations worked so well for Galaxy's Edge that no one showed up. The feeling of the internet is no one is showing up for a long time especially if they have to reserve the date. The only ones that will show up are the vloggers so they can run around without masks and feed each other on camera while on pirates.
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But those sold out within hours too! I remember getting mine that morning and an hour later it was done. And some people didn't come for a list of reasons, mostly because they probably just couldn't get the time off from work or other things came up. And you also have to remember plenty of people went multiple times as well. One friend I know went five times during this period. So its not black and white.

And I don't understand why people think making a reservation would be an issue for people, especially locals? Disney have reservation events for after hours parties all the time and they all sell out. They literally introduced an AP last year that you had to make a reservation before going and AFAIK they are popular passes because they are cheaper.

And literally tens of thousands of people were showing up at the crack of dawn just to MAYBE get a boarding pass to ride ROTR. These same people will happily make reservations to go (and mostly as another shot to ride ROTR lol).

And this is the first time Disneyland or any park has been shut down this long. So there is going to be huge demand no matter what. Not by everyone (certainly not by me lol) but if Shanghai selling out is any indication this will probably happen everywhere when the parks first open at least for a few weeks maybe.

And if making reservations will keep some people home, then great. In this case it's better if less people show up then more. But f others really really have to go during a global pandemic in theory they can, this is just one concession out of many and rightly so.
 
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

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fctiger said:
First off, how else can you control lower capacity without a reservation system? Especially something the size of Disney resorts? What would the solution be, first come first serve and the first 30,000 who gets in the park that day wins? That would be chaos and it would do the opposite of what it was meant to do and keep a controlled number of people coming to the resort.

Honestly, people want things to open up faster, fine, but there are going to be lots of concessions to do it, especially when testing is still at a low level. Sure some people will complain, but if the alternative is this or keep the park closed indefinitely until there is some treatment I think most will still prefer the former. And I think the 'social clubs' are going to have to be a lot less social for awhile.
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Disneyland controls capacity all the time what are you talking about? There are plenty of times Disneyland has closed the gates for maxium capacity. so all they have to do is pick a set capacity number they want to be at and once the turnstyles hit that number they close the gates. simple. Not rocket science.
 
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fctiger

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1HAPPYGHOSTHOST said:
Disneyland controls capacity all the time what are you talking about? There are plenty of times Disneyland has closed the gates for maxium capacity. so all they have to do is pick a set capacity number they want to be at and once the turnstyles hit that number they close the gates. simple. Not rocket science.
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No, I'm saying is control it in a way where thousands of people don't show up first. That's how they usually control it, just have whoever show up first and then turn people away afterwards or send them to DCA if that isn't too busy. That doesn't make any since in this case when the point is to control how many are in the resort in general.

That's not a good way to do it ASSUMING many people will just show up. I think at the very least it would be smart to have a reservation system at the beginning and just see how big demand is first.
 
PiratesMansion

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Honestly, after some of the reactions here and watching the video, I watched it myself to find all of the restrictions shockingly...REASONABLE.

Is it 100% ideal? No. But what do you expect them to do?

With the number of locals and rabid fans DLR has, they cannot just open the gates as before, at least not for the time being, and social distance. It's not going to work.

Sure, the Galaxy's Edge reservation experiment was a well-intentioned failure. But Shanghai's reservations sold out very quickly. Does anyone here honestly envision it playing out DIFFERENTLY here when it applies to the whole park and there are very obviously people chomping at the bit to get back in, as seen by every vlogger and 30 of his closest friends running to get Knott's Chicken the day the restaurant started offering takeout ordering?

Six Flags has already gone out on record to say that every person visiting their parks for the time being, passholder or not, are going to have to reserve their spot. Given what we're seeing in Shanghai already, it seems clear that this is going to be the rule, not the exception, for most parks going forward, Disney or otherwise, until this situation is under more control.

As far as APs, sure, it'll suck that not everyone that wants to go can. But this is temporary, and it would be foolish for Disney to reject higher-spending tourist dollars who came from longer distances to cater exclusively to those who are local and have less to lose by waiting until there's a reservation available.

For what it's worth, while I saw an awful lot of the behavior associated with Mainland Chinese over my month-long visit there in 2010, I have to say that I saw none of that behavior last year when I went to SDL. Does this mean all of those issues were magically solved since then? Of course not. But I can tell you I saw a lot less rude people during my three days there than either of the American resorts recently. Given that, can we stop the implications that all people who live in COMMUNIST CHINA as some here are so eager to spout are all simple, ignorant barbarians? It's not a good look, especially for someone who puts on such airs as being so "cultured."

And it's my hope that Disney will actually enforce these rules. I would love nothing more than for someone who refuses to comply, to not wear a mask, etc. to be kicked out. In fact, I wish Disney enforced rules the way they apparently used to pre-90s or how they do currently in Tokyo. Now, granted, Tokyo can be a little excessive at times, but for the most part it results in a far better park experience. Would it really be so terrible if they did the same thing in the US? Will it happen? We all know it probably won't. But the parks would be better for it.
 
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cmwade77

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Honestly, I have the flex pass and I don't see any issues with reservations, I ha e been having to get them since August and only a couple of times was I unable to.

Also, let's assume Shanghai is the model we follow, the reservation only period will still count like the park is closed as far a figuring out pass extension length. Which I think is why we have seen Disney move to having the monthly payments not extended by default, this will reduce the number of passholders trying to get reservations.

Also, we can assume onsite guests will be guaranteed entry into the parks, so they may also help.
 
Rich T

Rich T

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Just watched the official Shanghai video re: the new rules. It all seems sensible.

Looking forward to watching numbskulls freak out when the U.S. park restrictions become clear. Seriously, what do people expect during this ongoing crisis? Personally, I have no desire to visit a theme park under these conditions, so I’ll gladly wait a year or more. Anyone THAT desperate to visit DL or WDW ASAP had better be ready to act responsibly and follow the safeguards or get tossed out on their mouse rears.
 
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fctiger

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Rich T said:
Just watched the official Shanghai video re: the new rules. It all seems sensible.

Looking forward to watching numbskulls freak out when the U.S. park restrictions become clear. Seriously, what do people expect during this ongoing crisis? Personally, I have no desire to visit a theme park under these conditions, so I’ll gladly wait a year or more. Anyone THAT desperate to visit DL or WDW ASAP had better be ready to act responsibly and follow the safeguards or get tossed out on their mouse rears.
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Agreed. And I just heard about the restrictions when Disney Springs 'opens' on May 20th. Only two restaurants will be open (don't know how many stores), you also have to make reservations because it's limited parking and capacity, will have limited hours and its mandatory to wear a mask there too.

Sounds like oodles of fun to be had! 😂

But yeah what else can people expect in the middle of a global pandemic? Most places will be like this for awhile, especially the theme parks.
 

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