Service is getting worse

[ford91exploder]

I'm curious what part did the OP play in this? It's unreasonable for him to expect Disney to uphold their end of the agreements? I don't recall them asking for anything more than what Disney noted they will provide. If they had gotten mad because it was a 10 minute wait for the bus that would be one thing but it wasn't. Also if they wanted Fireworks view at Biergarten then sure that's understandable they would be in the wrong. Simply thinking that the things advertised would be provided appropriately isn't being an unreasonable customer or not accepting reality.

Yes but reality these days in the swamps is you pay for what Disney doesn't deliver and it's your fault for Disney not delivering

 

[Me 'Earties]

I'm quite familiar as I've stayed in all 3 resorts many times and been to WDW over 60 times...I was more emphasizing that he was staying at a non-Disney resort and complaining about Disney amenities.

Wow-that's a lot of times. Just curious-are you a local to WDW (meaning, are these day trips) or are these legit, avg 1 week stays?

 

[mousehockey37]

Wow-that's a lot of times. Just curious-are you a local to WDW (meaning, are these day trips) or are these legit, avg 1 week stays?

Does it matter? He's been there a lot. What bearing does this have in this thread?

 

[Me 'Earties]

Does it matter? He's been there a lot. What bearing does this have in this thread?

Jebus. Just asking. I find it amazing, that's all. No need to get all testy

 

[Goofyernmost]

Wow-that's a lot of times. Just curious-are you a local to WDW (meaning, are these day trips) or are these legit, avg 1 week stays?

Does it matter? He's been there a lot. What bearing does this have in this thread?

Jebus. Just asking. I find it amazing, that's all. No need to get all testy

That was a legit question even if it wasn't about that one persons problem. This thread has basically come to an end anyway because there was no direction to go with it. It is a good way to move on along. I have been 45 times, but, that was over 35 years and since most of those were from Vermont, I'd have to say that they weren't day trips. So the total doesn't really matter it is more the idea of how long it took to have that many trips. The actual bearing that it has on this thread is that the more you go, the more you become aware of what are reasonable expectations and which ones are the rantings of a spoiled child or a relative newbie.

 

[Me 'Earties]

That was a legit question even if it wasn't about that one persons problem. This thread has basically come to an end anyway because there was no direction to go with it. It is a good way to move on along. I have been 45 times, but, that was over 35 years and since most of those were from Vermont, I'd have to say that they weren't day trips. So the total doesn't really matter it is more the idea of how long it took to have that many trips. The actual bearing that it has on this thread is that the more you go, the more you become aware of what are reasonable expectations and which ones are the rantings of spoiled child or a relative newbie.

Agreed. I had decided to let it go, but really it is just curiousity on the commenter's perspective-45 years or the last 5; are we talking 60 days or 600? It wasn't meant as an attack-I was asking as a frame of reference of said commenter's perspective.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Wow-that's a lot of times. Just curious-are you a local to WDW (meaning, are these day trips) or are these legit, avg 1 week stays?

You'll probably think I'm crazy and/or my family is crazy, but each of those trips averaged 7-10 days and happened over the course of about 30 years.

I think I've calculated I've spent over a year at WDW....I am not local.

I've also been to Tokyo Disney twice, Disneyland more than 10 times, and Disneyland Paris.

I even made a thread about it.

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/i-spent-over-a-year-of-my-life-at-disney.913994/

I once went to WDW just for a birthday dinner at Teppan Edo.

 

[Chef Mickey]

I'm sorry, but I disagree you can "easily" take the monorail to the MK from the Dolphin.

It must be somewhere just over a mile from the Dolphin to the monorail station at EPCOT(plus you need a park hopper to enter at the International Gateway). Additionally, after you've walked your two children in the heat for over a mile, you still have to switch to the resort or MK express monorail at the TTC (so you have to walk a mile, then wait twice for transportation). Doable, yes. Easily is debatable.

Parts of Disney transportation is good, other parts not so good. Some bus routes and drivers are better than others. Try getting a bus at the last stop in Saratoga Springs to whatever park is having Early Morning Hours or the MK.

I look at it as an option after doing a few things in EPCOT and the head over to MK. I look at monorail travel as an attraction, so I'm probably viewing it as more fun than just pure transportation. I'm well aware how long it actually takes. I wouldn't do it without first doing a couple things at EPCOT, including Spaceship Earth on my way out.

If you don't have a Park Hopper, you're doing it wrong.

 

[Me 'Earties]

You'll probably think I'm crazy and/or my family is crazy, but each of those trips averaged 7-10 days and happened over the course of about 30 years.

I think I've calculated I've spent over a year at WDW....I am not local.

I've also been to Tokyo Disney twice, Disneyland more than 10 times, and Disneyland Paris.

I even made a thread about it.

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/i-spent-over-a-year-of-my-life-at-disney.913994/

I once went to WDW just for a birthday dinner at Teppan Edo.

That's really amazing, and thanks for sharing. I hope to be able to take my kids that often too-so, no, I don't think it's crazy! Lol

And now, I understand your perspective

 

[LuvtheGoof]

As long as they are packing resorts, packing the parks, increasing prices everywhere, they can take away service. As long as people are paying, keep cutting until you hit the jugular. Then, you know you cut to the end point.

As far as the buses go, I have no sympathy. I use to love the buses but the trip to POR ended that. I will never go without a car. There are almost no buses that can beat me driving to the parks. The only transportation that can would be the monorail resorts to MK. All other transportation I can beat by car. I am not talking by minutes. In a one week stay, I can save over 8 hours by driving vs bus waiting over the course of 1-week stay. If anyone wants to be honest about it, start a timer. When you are getting ready to head out, start the timer from when you leave your room and stop it when you get to the entrance. When leaving, start it when you exit and when you get dropped off at your bus stop.

To be honest, the only thing you are saving is the actual wait time for the bus/boat/monorail, and a bit if they are loading handicapped. The driving part is the same. What you have to add in for driving is a possible tram ride from the parking lot. Yes, I know that if you get there at o'dark thirty you can walk quickly to the front of the park, but that isn't true later in the day, or if you park hop. I cannot see how you can possibly save 8 hours in one week. I time when we get to a bus stop every single time, even with the monitors. We were there this last week during Spring Break crazy busy time, and only once did we wait over 20 minutes for a bus - and that was only 25. We averaged less than 10 minutes over-all for every bus trip. There were many waits of under 5 minutes.

 

[Goofyernmost]

To be honest, the only thing you are saving is the actual wait time for the bus/boat/monorail, and a bit if they are loading handicapped. The driving part is the same. What you have to add in for driving is a possible tram ride from the parking lot. Yes, I know that if you get there at o'dark thirty you can walk quickly to the front of the park, but that isn't true later in the day, or if you park hop. I cannot see how you can possibly save 8 hours in one week. I time when we get to a bus stop every single time, even with the monitors. We were there this last week during Spring Break crazy busy time, and only once did we wait over 20 minutes for a bus - and that was only 25. We averaged less than 10 minutes over-all for every bus trip. There were many waits of under 5 minutes.

Almost all the time saved is waiting for a bus and most of that is at closing, but, not all of it. If you have left at closing, right after the Fireworks, you know that the wait time can be as much as and hour or better. That adds up quick if you are staying all week. With a car you just do not wait. You don't have to share your ride with sweaty, tired people with whiny kids in a packed like sardines bus. Yes, the bus is free and as such, has a few negatives that go along with how much you are paying for that particular perk. Yes, I also know that all costs are included, yet hidden, in whatever you happen to have to pay for, but. when spread out over the entire daily attendance, it is minuscule. Even if I didn't save a minute, I at least, would be controlling my time and not waiting for someone else to take me home again.

As far as your wait time is concerned, that is a whole lot of luck, but, it does happen on occasion and usually involves not using them during peak times, because during peak times it simply does not work that smoothly. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with taking the bus, but, at least be realistic about it. It is for the masses and very seldom fits in with individual schedules perfectly. When it doesn't, I'd rather have the control over my transportation needs. Mine almost never includes the buses. I would use the Monorail or a boat as part of my "ride" experience and usually make it work out to hop between MK and Epcot. Otherwise it is a quick tram ride to my car.