Seems like somebody got into Epcot recently after hours

TP2000

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Remember all those layoffs? Security was hit hard apparently. Motion detectors and cameras do little if nobody is monitoring them.

Remember the big family fight in Disneyland's Toontown in the summer of 2019?

It went on for about five minutes before the first Security guard showed up, and then all she did was stand in the background watching it. In the meantime, you had a serious brawl with men punching their wives and it took multiple random park guests to get involved and try and subdue the attackers.

Over 5 minutes later and finally a few more security guards showed up, and all they did was try and keep people back from jumping into the fight to protect the women who were getting punched by their husbands and literally dragged through the streets of Toontown. A couple of theme park managers also showed up and did practically nothing.

A single, lone elderly custodian stepped in around the 3 minute mark and tried to get one of the men to calm down and step back. He was the only CM who actually tried to do anything. Otherwise, the entire brawl went on for a long time in the middle of Toontown on a busy summer day at Disneyland when they had FULL STAFFING, and it still took Disneyland Security 10 minutes to arrive and respond effectively to the situation. And their response was to merely follow the group as they left Toontown. It was a pathetic joke on the part of Disneyland's Security team, and it all got major media play nationally and in Southern California.

And we would expect this same Security organization to somehow have overnight strike teams in place ready to respond immediately for some kid sneaking into an abandoned park in the middle of the night? Give me a break. :rolleyes:
 
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LastoneOn

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Remember all those layoffs? Security was hit hard apparently. Motion detectors and cameras do little if nobody is monitoring them.
"apparently"
 

LastoneOn

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have overnight strike teams in place

At least they'd have masks on!


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_caleb

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Remember the big family fight in Disneyland's Toontown in the summer of 2019?

It went on for about five minutes before the first Security guard showed up, and then all she did was stand in the background watching it. In the meantime, you had a serious brawl with men punching their wives and it took multiple random park guests to get involved and try and subdue the attackers.

Over 5 minutes later and finally a few more security guards showed up, and all they did was try and keep people back from jumping into the fight to protect the women who were getting punched by their husbands and literally dragged through the streets of Toontown. A couple of theme park managers also showed up and did practically nothing.

A single, lone elderly custodian stepped in around the 3 minute mark and tried to get one of the men to calm down and step back. He was the only CM who actually tried to do anything. Otherwise, the entire brawl went on for a long time in the middle of Toontown on a busy summer day at Disneyland when they had FULL STAFFING, and it still took Disneyland Security 10 minutes to arrive and respond effectively to the situation. And their response was to merely follow the group as they left Toontown. It was a pathetic joke on the part of Disneyland's Security team, and it all got major media play nationally and in Southern California.

And we would expect this same Security organization to somehow have overnight strike teams in place ready to respond immediately for some kid sneaking into an abandoned park in the middle of the night? Give me a break. :rolleyes:
I’m just thinking maybe Epcot should have a fence?

What happens when all these “urbex“ YouTubers start a trend and dozens of kids sneak in and run around each night?

Several months ago, I fell into a YouTube black hole of kids trying to do an “overnight challenge” in various Disney and Universal parks. There was the guy who was “camping” at Discovery Island, the numbskulls who entered the park during operating hours and then tried to hide in order to spend the night, the idiot who climbed the waterslide in the middle of the night, and my personal favorite, the morons who thought they could stroll into Universal through a staff entrance wearing construction vests.

And if these jackwagons can figure out how to break in undetected, what’s to stop real bad guys who want to hurt people?

It’s all fun and games until one of these guys hurts himself pulling one of these stunts and then sues Disney for negligence!
 

TP2000

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I’m just thinking maybe Epcot should have a fence?

What happens when all these “urbex“ YouTubers start a trend and dozens of kids sneak in and run around each night?

Several months ago, I fell into a YouTube black hole of kids trying to do an “overnight challenge” in various Disney and Universal parks. There was the guy who was “camping” at Discovery Island, the numbskulls who entered the park during operating hours and then tried to hide in order to spend the night, the idiot who climbed the waterslide in the middle of the night, and my personal favorite, the morons who thought they could stroll into Universal through a staff entrance wearing construction vests.

And if these jackwagons can figure out how to break in undetected, what’s to stop real bad guys who want to hurt people?

It’s all fun and games until one of these guys hurts himself pulling one of these stunts and then sues Disney for negligence!

All of those are good questions.

Off the top of my head, I would think Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland would have the most secure perimeters from what I've seen. Disneyland Paris is slightly less secure. But no parks are as unsecured and just sitting out there in the middle of nothing than the WDW parks.

All this kid had to do was flip a u-turn on some empty roadway and then run across a swampy field to get onto Epcot property in the middle of the night?

Yeah... that's not a good look for Disney's Security team. But then, Disney's Security team has proven over and over again for years that they are basically just mall cops who do absolutely nothing. Even when women are being beaten up by their husbands in Toontown. Disney's "security" is a joke. YouTube proves it over and over again.

Although I do love that there are some people who assume there's some big control room where Disney watches everything and responds within seconds to any suspicious behavior. The reality is far more lax, far more incompetent.

VIEWER WARNING: Violence, Profane Language, Cast Member Incompetence With Full Staffing Levels

 
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Gringrinngghost

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Remember the big family fight in Disneyland's Toontown in the summer of 2019?

It went on for about five minutes before the first Security guard showed up, and then all she did was stand in the background watching it. In the meantime, you had a serious brawl with men punching their wives and it took multiple random park guests to get involved and try and subdue the attackers.

Over 5 minutes later and finally a few more security guards showed up, and all they did was try and keep people back from jumping into the fight to protect the women who were getting punched by their husbands and literally dragged through the streets of Toontown. A couple of theme park managers also showed up and did practically nothing.

A single, lone elderly custodian stepped in around the 3 minute mark and tried to get one of the men to calm down and step back. He was the only CM who actually tried to do anything. Otherwise, the entire brawl went on for a long time in the middle of Toontown on a busy summer day at Disneyland when they had FULL STAFFING, and it still took Disneyland Security 10 minutes to arrive and respond effectively to the situation. And their response was to merely follow the group as they left Toontown. It was a pathetic joke on the part of Disneyland's Security team, and it all got major media play nationally and in Southern California.

And we would expect this same Security organization to somehow have overnight strike teams in place ready to respond immediately for some kid sneaking into an abandoned park in the middle of the night? Give me a break. :rolleyes:

If there is one Security member there, they don't do anything until backup comes in and that's solely it's for corporate liability as they would have multiple witness within the company in that position to back them up in a legal standing. Universal has the same stance and that was partly how the fired 3rd Party TM was able to stab the other...
 

NelleBelle

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If there is one Security member there, they don't do anything until backup comes in and that's solely it's for corporate liability as they would have multiple witness within the company in that position to back them up in a legal standing. Universal has the same stance and that was partly how the fired 3rd Party TM was able to stab the other...
I feel I've missed something...
 

Lilofan

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All of those are good questions.

Off the top of my head, I would think Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland would have the most secure perimeters from what I've seen. Disneyland Paris is slightly less secure. But no parks are as unsecured and just sitting out there in the middle of nothing than the WDW parks.

All this kid had to do was flip a u-turn on some empty roadway and then run across a swampy field to get onto Epcot property in the middle of the night?

Yeah... that's not a good look for Disney's Security team. But then, Disney's Security team has proven over and over again for years that they are basically just mall cops who do absolutely nothing. Even when women are being beaten up by their husbands in Toontown. Disney's "security" is a joke. YouTube proves it over and over again.

Although I do love that there are some people who assume there's some big control room where Disney watches everything and responds within seconds to any suspicious behavior. The reality is far more lax, far more incompetent.

VIEWER WARNING: Violence, Profane Language, Cast Member Incompetence With Full Staffing Levels

Kudos to the several male guests that forcibly brought the black male punching the black female while she was on the ground. One of the white male guests put a neck chokehold on him to also bring him down onto the ground.
 

techgeek

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I’m just thinking maybe Epcot should have a fence?

But no parks are as unsecured and just sitting out there in the middle of nothing than the WDW parks.

All this kid had to do was flip a u-turn on some empty roadway and then run across a swampy field to get onto Epcot property in the middle of the night?

Epcot literally has a moat. The perimeter canal only has a few secure bridges where it can be crossed. I think for most of it at least, it’s also backed up by a fence line.
 

_caleb

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Thanks for the idea........

One more item on bucket list
It was a "thing" a while back-"24 hour challenge." Not just parks, but malls, stores, etc. I think it started in a Walmart or something. Maybe they were looking for Tide Pods to eat...
 
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_caleb

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Epcot literally has a moat. The perimeter canal only has a few secure bridges where it can be crossed. I think for most of it at least, it’s also backed up by a fence line.
In the video in question, the kid literally walks across the "secure bridges" you're talking about and strolls into the park.
 

_caleb

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All of those are good questions.

Off the top of my head, I would think Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland would have the most secure perimeters from what I've seen. Disneyland Paris is slightly less secure. But no parks are as unsecured and just sitting out there in the middle of nothing than the WDW parks.

All this kid had to do was flip a u-turn on some empty roadway and then run across a swampy field to get onto Epcot property in the middle of the night?

Yeah... that's not a good look for Disney's Security team. But then, Disney's Security team has proven over and over again for years that they are basically just mall cops who do absolutely nothing. Even when women are being beaten up by their husbands in Toontown. Disney's "security" is a joke. YouTube proves it over and over again.

Although I do love that there are some people who assume there's some big control room where Disney watches everything and responds within seconds to any suspicious behavior. The reality is far more lax, far more incompetent.

VIEWER WARNING: Violence, Profane Language, Cast Member Incompetence With Full Staffing Levels

That's horrifying.
 

Raineman

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Not going to link it or name who it is, but a certain person who likes videoing the parks when they're closed was in Epcot recently. Skating around World Showcase in the middle of the night and filming. It seems strange how no security appeared, I was under the impression the parks were under 24 hour surveillance and had motion detectors etc?

Please no links.
I would bet a substantial amount of $$ that it was that useless idiot who's first name rhymes with Fatt, and has been trespassed multiple times from WDW property.
 

Benjamin_Nicholas

Premium Member
Although I do love that there are some people who assume there's some big control room where Disney watches everything and responds within seconds to any suspicious behavior. The reality is far more lax, far more incompetent.

Agreed. Disney is not a Vegas casino.

It's actually shocking that more people don't behave like this at Disney parks.
 

LastoneOn

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I’m just thinking maybe Epcot should have a fence?

What happens when all these “urbex“ YouTubers start a trend and dozens of kids sneak in and run around each night?

Several months ago, I fell into a YouTube black hole of kids trying to do an “overnight challenge” in various Disney and Universal parks. There was the guy who was “camping” at Discovery Island, the numbskulls who entered the park during operating hours and then tried to hide in order to spend the night, the idiot who climbed the waterslide in the middle of the night, and my personal favorite, the morons who thought they could stroll into Universal through a staff entrance wearing construction vests.

And if these jackwagons can figure out how to break in undetected, what’s to stop real bad guys who want to hurt people?

It’s all fun and games until one of these guys hurts himself pulling one of these stunts and then sues Disney for negligence!
Could be Caleb that there was a lot more natural barrier decades ago. Between the swamp, the critters, nobody was very worried about it. Now, access much easier, but fence isn't cheap.
 

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