Volunteers don't get so much free stuff.
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runDisney pares back complimentary full-day ticket to half-day for volunteers
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Haters blame Disney
Runners understand how things really are.
Caps lock isn't required for a valid sensible point.
Disstevefan1
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I don't hate Disney.
When they do right, I praise them.
I do hate when a company (any company) as large as Disney does something as petty as this to their volunteers, especially when they pay someone, they fired 24 million dollars.
Again, the main point of this thread is lost, and Disney wins again.
The Board who set up Chapek exit package of $20M plus is the one to question.
A board made.up and delegated by the guy who just came back as a savior figure...again.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
Well Chapek could sue and most likely get every penny he's owed under his contract. Like it or not, the company made more money in the last quarter under him than ever before (stock price notwithstanding), so he'd have one hell of a wrongful termination case.
Disney didn't win . And the point of this thread has been repeatedly passed over your head.
His lips are sealed at this time. Mine would be too if I walked away with a $23M severance package.
nickys
Premium Member
I don’t think that was his severance package, most of that was probably contractual.
Not a shabby amount to walk away with though.
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
I thought the point of this thread (as the title says) was that Disney cut the full day ticket to a half day ticket. In
My opinion, that is a petty and disgraceful a thing they did.
I guess I was wrong about the point of this thread.
Folks will continue to argue the definition of volunteers and how the races require volunteers to exist, but the Disney volunteers still got their full ticket cut to a half day ticket (apparently not the point of this thread)
GimpYancIent
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Yes, a petty and cheap gesture that further erodes the image of TWDC.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
I didn't say otherwise. I'm just saying that blaming the Board for giving him money to go away (contractual or not) isn't fair to anyone.
GimpYancIent
Well-Known Member
Paying the unwanted to go away has been and is a common business practice. The reasoning is simple, in the long term which is cheaper and better for the health / welfare of the business an outlay / payoff now or continue to suffer the continued presence of a detractor having negative effects on the business.
Well... I would rather be a volunteer handing out water bottles than someone dumb enough to be running the marathon.
A lot of people that volunteer for this type of thing are students that are required to do it for various organizations that they belong to. Frankly I'm with you, no reason to ever volunteer to give up my time for nothing.
Actually it is fair to blame the board, most board are complete failures at doing what they should be doing because they hand out these golden parachutes that cost millions and really do nothing. I can guarantee if you offered someone that was trying to be CEO of Disney or any other company the job but told them they wouldn't get a golden parachute they would still jump on the job. These golden parachutes are a waste. I mean what incentive does someone have to make hard decisions that make a company successful if they know they get tens of millions if they do absolutely nothing. It boggles the mind that boards still give these things out. If they fire the guy in the mailroom they don't hand him a check for enough to live comfortably for the rest of his life... don't do it for any of the employees that actually keep the company running... but they do it for C-level execs who in most companies could be abducted by aliens and the company wouldn't even notice for months if not years.
flynnibus
Premium Member
This says more about you as an individual than any other post you've ever made on this forum.
And your taking things out of context says even more about you. You've stalked me for years, why don't you find another hobby.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
Thats just not how top level companies operate, and even if there is a guy that would take it without high level compensation, they wouldn't be considered. This is the same as that other brain giant who wanted to argue that CMs should be happy about what they get paid because people used to do it cheaper. Its just a different galaxy of pay scale, but its the same idea.
My point was that they owe him his ENTIRE contract, and that if he sued for wrongful termination, he would win the case. Getting him gone for $23M is a win for the board and company.
Chapek left with not even close to what Ovitz left when working for Eisner. Ovitz left and got $140M exit package more than 20 years ago and Chapek got a paltry $23M.
CntrlFlPete
Well-Known Member
just trying to recap (from my eyes) ideas I have seen in this thread.
Let's call Disney the main sponsor of the race. Know we can replace Disney w/ the City of Boston as the role is the same when it comes to a marathon. The sponsor gets their take based on visitor spend due to folks visiting because of the race.
Volunteers are used by some 501c that runs marathons. at this point, I assume marathons are mush like PGA stops -- tons of volunteers are used, some group(s) get money given to their ORG.
These volunteers should not (in my opinion) offer their time in anticipation of some swag to be given to them. (should Boston give them the keys to the city?).
Now 501 c's and volunteerism carry tax implications. What is the point that turns swag into compensation? I have not seen that answered, so I will assume this is just as possible as 'Disney is being cheap' so I shall look at it another way. Let's say I earn $15 an hour. I volunteer 8 hrs to run Disney. If I were working, I would've earned $120 (pre tax). This is much cheaper than what I can get a day ticket for, so is a full day ticket compensation? It is a better deal for me to 'volunteer' than it is for me to work!
Now, I will toss out another conspiracy theory. Disney's new date specific ticketing isn't ready for 'exceptions'.
How would these folks make a park reservation?
Is it a hopper?
What date/park are they starting at?
heck, just let them in at 1PM to any park on any day to avoid it all.
Anyhoo, my thoughts are on the side of: the race and Disney are different. The race is using these volunteers. (my surprise on 'disney and volunteers came some years back when I talked to someone in the 501st, I mean these folks marched in a parade.)
I know nothing of the 'racing circuit' nor what other restriction the old ticket was valued at, but last time I was at the parks, a one day /w hopping option was $234. That might not cost Disney anything, but that could be some real compensation for some.
JoeCamel
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More volunteers are used provide entertainment for Magic Kingdom guests, the bands all pay to be at WDW