Rumors! Rumors! From Screamscape

FutureCEO

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Disneyland
It seems that Disneyland may be somewhere to avoid this winter. Just like last winter, apparently a lot of the park's attractions will be closed. The Matterhorn apparently will not re-open until at least February. Fantasmic will apparently not come back until Summer 2003. Then there are the closings of the Haunted Mansion and It's a Small World to de-holiday them. Who knows when the Carrousel will be done. And Pooh MIGHT open in time for Easter break.

As for the big 2005 anniversary, Space Mountain is still having rumors about the trains launching from the Rocket Rods loading pad INTO the SM building. Inversions would also be included. This may be too much of a logistical nightmare, but if Disney is going to gut this popular ride, they should go ALL OUT if they want to quell the whiners.

Disney's California Adventure
Even though Playhouse Disney isn't expected to open until April (just like Pooh) DCA WILL get something new before then. Aladdin is expected to open in December.

After that, don't expect much until the Tower of Terror (with the new Tower4 sequences!) opens around April 2004. Nothing is scheduled after that until 2006, and then all that is out there is yet another Rock 'n' Roller Coaster (but with better theming apparently) and a new lagoon show. Sigh.

Magic Kingdom
Nothing of note here beyond PhilharMagic news. Still no opening date more specific than mid-2003. But I am sure WDW is doing all they can to open it by that all-important Easter week.

This isn't a rumor but the park has been opening with several characters arriving on the train and exiting to welcome guests around the station. Now on nights that don't feature Spectromagic or fireworks, 20 to 40 characters have a Main Street "dance party" with the exiting guests. Frankly, these are great ideas that are both cheap and fun. They should have original opening ceremonies at ALL their parks and closing ceremonies at parks without nighttime shows, like AK or DCA (yes, they have that parade, but they still need it!)

Animal Kingdom
Speaking of AK, there is a bit more info out there about Forbidden Mountain. Fears of the ride being a Matterhorn clone are lessening. It seems the ride will travel AROUND the mountain before actually entering it. It seems there will also only be one track, which also quiets any clone worries. Still, it seems there won't be any inversions and there will be many Yeti inside, so don't expect the Incredible Hulk inside a mountain. Unbelievably, this apparently won't open until 2005, which means more than two years of this park continuing to have problems.

Well, something excellent seems to be coming soon: AK will be building a bridge near the Tarzan Rocks theater across the river to Asia. FINALLY! Now Camp Minnie/Mickey will be the only dead-end land. (Not counting Dinorama. NO ONE counts Dinorama!)

Disney/MGM Studios
With Epcot and AK needing such desperate attention right now, the Studios has little in the way of rumors. Nothing on what will replace Hunchback. Nothing on what will replace Doug Live. (Not that those need as much planning as E-Tickets do.) Nothing on a Great Movie Ride upgrade either. And still nothing from the Lucas camp about new Star Tours movies. But there is a minor rumor about the park getting ANOTHER 3-D attraction. Rumors have the attraction, which may be based on Pixar's upcoming "Finding Nemo," possibly replacing Voyage of the Little Mermaid. But I would place bets on it replacing MuppetVision instead. Voyage is original and a Disney product. MuppetVision is on both coasts and ISN'T a Disney product.

Epcot
All the juicy stuff seems to be coming out of Epcot. And deservedly so. Disney's most original park has been ailing for years and apparently Disney has taken the money planned for a fifth WDW park and is wisely putting it into Epcot instead.

Mission: Space is first up, obviously, and it looks good for an Easter 2003 opening. Unless it has major problems, which happens frequently in this park.

The new Spain half-pavilion was supposedly built only for the Food and Wine Festival, but it could be the first phase of a more extensive pavilion down the road. Disney was in talks recently with the Spanish government about a pavilion and I doubt this was what all that fuss was about.

More rumors keep surfacing about a Soarin'-type ride dropping into the Land pavilion. They are apparently trying out different loading techniques at DCA so the ride won't back up as badly as the original.

That project is one that has been recently added to Project Gemini, a codename given to a short-term plan for Epcot. While we may not learn much about PG until after the unveiling of Mission: Space, one of the wildest rumors involves Spaceship Earth. Rumor has the ride closing down in 2005 and being replaced with a ride called Spaceship Earth: Time Racers. One rumor I read made it sound like a clone of Tokyo DisneySea's StormRider would go in here. Screamscape says a roller coaster that would start outside the geosphere and launch INTO it is on the boards. Personally, I don't see how a coaster track could be supported in that weird thing. But then I don't know how the current ride can be supported either, so who knows? Considering the StormRider rumor has been around for a long time, though not for Spaceship Earth, my money's on that cheaper and easier alternative. Plus, the names, StormRider and Time Racers, are a bit similar. Time Racers doesn't sound very coastery either.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Originally posted by grizzlyhall
You made Rob's evening!

how so? these are screamscape rumors... I wouldn't trust that site for anything
 

Merlin

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Originally posted by FutureCEO
Disneyland
As for the big 2005 anniversary, Space Mountain is still having rumors about the trains launching from the Rocket Rods loading pad INTO the SM building. Inversions would also be included. This may be too much of a logistical nightmare, but if Disney is going to gut this popular ride, they should go ALL OUT if they want to quell the whiners.


Animal Kingdom
Speaking of AK, there is a bit more info out there about Forbidden Mountain. Fears of the ride being a Matterhorn clone are lessening. It seems the ride will travel AROUND the mountain before actually entering it. It seems there will also only be one track, which also quiets any clone worries. Still, it seems there won't be any inversions and there will be many Yeti inside, so don't expect the Incredible Hulk inside a mountain.

Just curious about a couple of comments you have made (which kind of give me the impression you have strong opinions on these matters)...

1. I get the impression you think a new Matterhorn would be a BAD thing. I think it is one of Disney's best attractions and would love to see a new one built using today's technology.

2. You've indicated disappointment that there's been no talk of inversions in either of the coaster rumors. I think a coaster can be a great ride without necessarily having to have inversions. As a matter of fact, I've been pleased to see the trend in the theme park industry has moved away from automatically putting inversions on every new coaster in favor of more imaginative features.

Any way you can elaborate on where you're coming from on these two issues? Just curious.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Re: Re: Rumors! Rumors! From Screamscape

Originally posted by Merlin
Just curious about a couple of comments you have made (which kind of give me the impression you have strong opinions on these matters)...

1. I get the impression you think a new Matterhorn would be a BAD thing. I think it is one of Disney's best attractions and would love to see a new one built using today's technology.

2. You've indicated disappointment that there's been no talk of inversions in either of the coaster rumors. I think a coaster can be a great ride without necessarily having to have inversions. As a matter of fact, I've been pleased to see the trend in the theme park industry has moved away from automatically putting inversions on every new coaster in favor of more imaginative features.

Any way you can elaborate on where you're coming from on these two issues? Just curious.


these are from screamscape.com, a theme park rumor site.
 

jmarc63

New Member
The funny thing that I have noticed is that some of the other Disney related sites that some members post rumors from also sometimes credit wdwmagic.com as a source for some of there rumors or list wdwmagic.com as a place to turn to for more information on a picticular rumor that has been going for a while such as the monorail rumor and info on M:S speculation.
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by FutureCEO
Magic Kingdom
Nothing of note here beyond PhilharMagic news. Still no opening date more specific than mid-2003. But I am sure WDW is doing all they can to open it by that all-important Easter week.
Oh Yes - April 9th Here we come !!
Mission: Space is first up, obviously, and it looks good for an Easter 2003 opening. Unless it has major problems, which happens frequently in this park.
Even bigger "Oh Yes"
Shame its all quotes from Screamscape
 

Scar Junior

Active Member
I understand nobody likes this info cuz it was from screamscape (thus making it no longer 'info'). But I think it was good to see all the different rumors at one time, all together. It makes me see what Disney may be looking at and they can prioritize based on capital needed and other such demographics.

Thanks for posting.
 

mocfan

New Member
Originally posted by turkey leg boy
I don't see why everyone finds it necessary to post rumors from somewhat unreliable sources here.

Whether they are reliable rumors or not that are still rumors. That is what this message board is for. To discuss them. That is what makes this place fun. If they aren't reliable, it gives people the opportunity to dream
 

jmarc63

New Member
definition

Main Entry: 1ru·mor
Pronunciation: 'rü-m&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English rumour, from Middle French, from Latin rumor clamor, gossip; akin to Old English rEon to lament, Sanskrit rauti he roars
Date: 14th century
1 : talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source
2 : a statement or report current without known authority for its truth
3 archaic : talk or report of a notable person or event
 

Fievel

RunDisney Addict
Well now that we know what the word rumor means (like we didnt' before), I agree with the opinion that screamscape is NOTORIOUSLY wrong.

I'd leave this rumor alone and let it die.
 

space42

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Fievel
Well now that we know what the word rumor means (like we didnt' before), I agree with the opinion that screamscape is NOTORIOUSLY wrong.

I'd leave this rumor alone and let it die.

But the thing is.. its not just Screamscape talking about some of these rumors. The most solid one right now seems to be "Forbidden Mountain". From what I understand, the project is a go and the coaster has already been purchased.

They (actually its just one person, Lance) are just reporting news/rumors that are sent in from various places. So by that very nature its hit or miss. Most rumors turn out NOTORIOUSLY wrong.

I don't think anyone here is going to discredit Steve at WDWmagic just because Beastly Kingdom is never going to be built. Shoot.. go back and read some of the rumors posted on the main site.. quite a few of them are NOTORIOUSLY wrong. Its just the nature of Disney rumors.

I'm not trying to start an argument with anyone... just offering a different point of view.

Have a Disney Day
 

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