eliza61nyc
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Lol
I never understand the need, smacks of desperation.
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RotR: Disney is still not at Universal's level
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I never understand the need, smacks of desperation.
Randyland
Member
Not recognizing the propblem, is the largest part of the problem.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Okay, but Spider-Man and Transformers are technically the same thing. The only difference is the car is moving to a difference screen each time with an occasional set piece here and there. But no animatronics or anything. It is still simply a car jiggling in front of a screen... It just transfers from one screen to the next screen.
Now, if we're talking about Forbidden Journey, THAT would be a good one to talk about.
Disneyhead'71
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How is that different than IASW and El Rio de Tiempo?
twilight mitsuk
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Iasw and el rio is the same ride system with singing dolls
Animaniac93-98
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Disney's Spider-Man ride is currently under construction at both Disney California Adventure and Walt Disney Studios Park.
It is not expected to be as good.
OG Runner
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Forbidden Journey should definitely be noted as the best. It is a unique experience with a unique ride system, and story. I gave examples of 5 rides in 2 parks that are basically the same experience and story, even if 2 of them have a better ride system.
OG Runner
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Honestly not at all. You should then be willing to admit that Spiderman, Transformers, Jimmy Fallon, Despicable Me and the Simpsons
are pretty much the same also. Go through those five rides and for the most part the stories are the same, using similar technology
(screens), down to the drop & catch at the end.
OG Runner
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If only Disney would build an entire park dedicated to E-Ticket thrill rides.....
Disneyhead'71
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Why would I say that Spider-man and Tranformers aren't similar? It is the same ride system doing basically the same thing. But there are differences that I appreciate. Spider-man's pacing is pretty much perfect, and yet I prefer Transformers frenetic pacing (I like being slung, flung, and shaken).
Transformers@USF's inception came about because of a very unique set of circumstances. They really would have preferred to put Spider-man into Singapore/Hollywood, but because of NBC's short sightedness they let the rights go. So Universal Creative took the ride system and created a similar attraction. Very similar, in fact, because they had no intentions of bringing to Orlando. Then circumstances arose to where UOR could basically build an E-Ticket for free as long as they could do it before July 2013 (It was a tax thing, Cabana Bay was also part of the scenario). Anyway they had about 18 moths to spend $160 million or hand it over to Uncle Sam. Because Transformers was "shovel ready" since they had just built it in Singapore and Hollywood, they slammed it into USF. How that worked was Hogsmeade was so successful and they made so much money they had a HUGE tax bill. But that tax bill could be defused if they dumped it back into capital investment. But there was a time limit. So, BOOM! full blown E-Ticket built in the middle of a working theme park in 13 months. Remarkable by anyone's standards. They really did truly funny chit like treating fill dirt dump trucks like a daytime parade with costumed TMs walking in front and behind with a rope, literally like it was a parade.
But Spider-man/Transformers are VERY different beasts than Fallon, Simpson's and DM:MM. People here and in the theme park community slam Fallon, but it has the one of the highest GSATs at UOR. The GP LOVE Fallon and the merch sales are surprisingly high. Let's put it this way, If Fallon wasn't as successful as it is, we would not have the Today Show Café.
This explanation is not an excuse for the preponderance of 3D attractions, just an explanation of how Transformers@USF came to be.
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RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
They're certainly similar, but they're not the same track.
Disneyhead'71
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Right. Spider-man is all on a single floor. Transformers is spread over 2 floors utilizing 2 sets of duel elevators like Star Wars: Rise of the Risistance.
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RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
The same thing happens in the Universal sections, all the time. Does that mean the same thing?
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Because those rides don’t make up like 90% of the REST of the attractions in the park?
Also, no. It’s not the same thing. Like. At ALL.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Similar?? Nah fam. Outside of the track layout, which you pointed out... it’s the same ride. Same vehicle. Same screen integration. Same. Same. Same. (-:
Disneyhead'71
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Umm, honey, (pointing at your hem), your bias is showing.
There are exactly 2 screen based attractions at IOA ( Spider-man and Kong). USF is more egregious on this front. DM:MM, Shrek, Fallon, Transformers, Simpson's, Fast and Furious, and Gringott's, (7 out of 29 attractions) are screen based. But how many WDW attractions are SLOW moving RVs (Omnimover or Boat) moving in front of repetitive robots? Jungle Cruise, PotC, HM, IASW, Peter Pan, Pooh, Mermaid, Splash, CoP, PeopleMover, Spaceship Earth, Nemo, El Rio de Tiempo, Frozen, Figment's, Living With The Land and Star Wars: Rise of the Resistence. Thankfully they just got rid of the god awful Ellens and GMR. Throw in the rides that don't move at all in front of repetitive robots, Tiki, CBJ, and American Adventure. Disney seems much more egregious in finding a formula and sticking with it. Just sayin'.
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Animaniac93-98
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Disneyhead'71
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This entire post, quote and all, should be hanging on the walls of both WDI and Universal Creative as a reference on what NOT to do.