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Room1313's Mission Space and WDW Report
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no2apprentice
Well-Known Member
Just a side note on the turning your head comment.
To understand what one is up against in M:S, one needs to understand the mechanism that causes motion sickness. It is called "sensory conflict." Our brains rely on input from key sensory inputs to tell us if we are moving, and/or if the enviroment is moving around us. Two key inputs are vision, and the inner ear. In the inner ear, there is fluid that passes over tiny little "hairs" that register movement to the brain. The brain also relies on input signals from the neck, muscles, and joints to indicate movement of our bodies or a shift of balance.
Example: you're riding in the back of car, reading a book. Because you are holding the book, the book moves as your body moves. Your eyes signal the brain there is minimum movement. But your inner ear, and other inputs, tell your brain there is movement. Sensory conflict starts, otherwise known as car sickness. Same situation occurs with air sickness, sea sickness, and now...M:S sickness.
Some people are very sensitive to sensory conflict, some have a strong resistence to it. I've seen footage on TV where the military does testing on sensory conflict, trying to understand the mechanism better. The person sits in a chair in a chamber. The chair is slightly off center in the room. The chamber spins. The subject does okay until he's told to turn his head. WHAM-O! Severe dizziness and nausea.
For those of you who knew about this topic, please excuse the rambling. Maybe this will help some people decide whether or not they should ride M:S.
To understand what one is up against in M:S, one needs to understand the mechanism that causes motion sickness. It is called "sensory conflict." Our brains rely on input from key sensory inputs to tell us if we are moving, and/or if the enviroment is moving around us. Two key inputs are vision, and the inner ear. In the inner ear, there is fluid that passes over tiny little "hairs" that register movement to the brain. The brain also relies on input signals from the neck, muscles, and joints to indicate movement of our bodies or a shift of balance.
Example: you're riding in the back of car, reading a book. Because you are holding the book, the book moves as your body moves. Your eyes signal the brain there is minimum movement. But your inner ear, and other inputs, tell your brain there is movement. Sensory conflict starts, otherwise known as car sickness. Same situation occurs with air sickness, sea sickness, and now...M:S sickness.
Some people are very sensitive to sensory conflict, some have a strong resistence to it. I've seen footage on TV where the military does testing on sensory conflict, trying to understand the mechanism better. The person sits in a chair in a chamber. The chair is slightly off center in the room. The chamber spins. The subject does okay until he's told to turn his head. WHAM-O! Severe dizziness and nausea.
For those of you who knew about this topic, please excuse the rambling. Maybe this will help some people decide whether or not they should ride M:S.
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the great report!! The pictures were great too.
This question is for Centrifuger. I have heard that the ride is going to be down from the 16th - 20th and then it will re-open on the 23rd. Is there any truth to this? Can you give us any idea on days and times you think it will be open. Thanks in advance.
This question is for Centrifuger. I have heard that the ride is going to be down from the 16th - 20th and then it will re-open on the 23rd. Is there any truth to this? Can you give us any idea on days and times you think it will be open. Thanks in advance.
Mission: SPACE
New Member
Thanks for the great report, room1313...
Now I have something to look forward to for when I get back to Florida... Definately camping out in front on M:S in a couple of weeks now...
Now I have something to look forward to for when I get back to Florida... Definately camping out in front on M:S in a couple of weeks now...
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
Well, it is customary after Cast Previews have ended to close the attraction for about a week (Disney has done this for all recent E-Tickets, including RnR and Test Track) to make all final changes based on guest surveys (guests who rode yesterday, of course, were asked quite a few questions about their ride experience) so the ride will be nearly done by around the 23rd--it also allows for extra training. From Disney's standpoint, it would be better to have this week of closure take place next week, before the REAL summer crowds start to arrive. I would expect they want July 4th to be the first time they try opening this attraction to large crowds (then it would make sense to stay open for weekends following the 4th), so the CMs could certainly use the extra week of training--keep in mind the current ride cycle is taking about 10 minutes (it is taking a while to load guests). They need to get that time down to 5 to 6 minutes if they want to get up to those capacity numbers between 1600 and 2000 guests per hour they are aiming for.
Vernonpush
Well-Known Member
Great photos:sohappy: :sohappy:
Centrifugeer
New Member
Even if I knew what the plans were for opening to guests during those dates it would be hard to make any kind of definitive statement. AFAIK, they'll open MS to guests as often as possible simply because there's training to be completed for both operations and maintenance, it gives them a chance to iron out the kinks, and it gives the Imagineers an idea of component reliability on the ride (so they know what spares to keep in stock for contingencies).
If the ride is going to be down during those dates, it may be so that the folks from M: S can concentrate on the other 2 centrifuge rooms to get all the parts in place and get them up and running. Not sure though. That's just a guess.
If you want to ride M: S before the official soft opening date, the best I can tell you is to be there around 4:00 pm on a given day. Even then there are no guarantees.
andresmatamoros
New Member
CAMERAS
I have read that there are one camera pointing at each guest so they can have a control if someone become REALLY ill, but someone share me the light on how they are going to do this because if you think of it there are 4 guests in each of 8 pods and there are 4 centrifuges so there are 128 cameras running at the same time...so imagine how many CMs they have to have looking at the monitors so they can control everybody!!!!
I have read that there are one camera pointing at each guest so they can have a control if someone become REALLY ill, but someone share me the light on how they are going to do this because if you think of it there are 4 guests in each of 8 pods and there are 4 centrifuges so there are 128 cameras running at the same time...so imagine how many CMs they have to have looking at the monitors so they can control everybody!!!!
it'd actually be 160 cameras...
4 guests X 10 pods X 4 centrifuges...
they don't have 1 CM monitoring 1 guest.. it'd be more like a security system, with the monitor switching cameras every few seconds.. i'd guess more like 5 or 6 CM's monitoring
4 guests X 10 pods X 4 centrifuges...
they don't have 1 CM monitoring 1 guest.. it'd be more like a security system, with the monitor switching cameras every few seconds.. i'd guess more like 5 or 6 CM's monitoring
andresmatamoros
New Member
Other question!!!
First thanks MKT!!!! its great to have all the insides.....
And for my iother question is...
For what I have read in many threads you enter the room and actually see all the centrifuge with the pods...Has someone (of course a CM or someone even higher) has seen the ride from the outside, that is, to look how the pods moves during the ride??? It would be very cool if someone goes out to the chicken door if they permit to see the ride from the outside, at least by a tv monitor....
What do you think?
First thanks MKT!!!! its great to have all the insides.....
And for my iother question is...
For what I have read in many threads you enter the room and actually see all the centrifuge with the pods...Has someone (of course a CM or someone even higher) has seen the ride from the outside, that is, to look how the pods moves during the ride??? It would be very cool if someone goes out to the chicken door if they permit to see the ride from the outside, at least by a tv monitor....
What do you think?
Centrifugeer
New Member
Re: Other question!!!
There are no cameras in the capsules. If someone chucks chunks during a ride, it won't be evident to the CMs till they open the capsule door.
There are cameras in the room with the centrifuges, along with motions detectors. Together they function as an intrusion system. If anything is detected that shouldn't be there the ride won't start until the problem is cleared up. It's an automated system that relies on special hardware and software and does not require any monitoring by a live person. In a moving ride like M: S (in a completely enclosed room), such a system is a necessary requirement.
There are no cameras in the capsules. If someone chucks chunks during a ride, it won't be evident to the CMs till they open the capsule door.
There are cameras in the room with the centrifuges, along with motions detectors. Together they function as an intrusion system. If anything is detected that shouldn't be there the ride won't start until the problem is cleared up. It's an automated system that relies on special hardware and software and does not require any monitoring by a live person. In a moving ride like M: S (in a completely enclosed room), such a system is a necessary requirement.
Lauren DeVil
New Member
You had said you waited all day...how many folks were waiting about 3pm or closer to when the ride opened? We are going to be in WDW next week and desperately want to ride this ride, we want to be prepared-but do not want to take a whole day to wait. Any words of advice??
Re: Other question!!!
It doesnt tilt just up and down, but it moves from side to side. I also believe, from what I felt, your not spinning the whole time. BTW, I cannot emphasise (sp?) enough, you have no idea your spinning. I mean, I even tried to lift my head up a little tiny bit to get a little dizzy, but the G's were to high.
And about the centrifuges, There on a giant turntable, and I believe the arms that support them are from above. To exit, you actually walk around the center of the fuge, and go out one exit door
It doesnt tilt just up and down, but it moves from side to side. I also believe, from what I felt, your not spinning the whole time. BTW, I cannot emphasise (sp?) enough, you have no idea your spinning. I mean, I even tried to lift my head up a little tiny bit to get a little dizzy, but the G's were to high.
And about the centrifuges, There on a giant turntable, and I believe the arms that support them are from above. To exit, you actually walk around the center of the fuge, and go out one exit door
I waited from 9 in the morning til 4 pm, and left only once to get lunch. I sat on the concrete flower bed edge in Planetary Plaza, but when that got to hot, I stood at the wall, and I must be in a million peoples pictures lol. Anyway, if you decide to do what I did, PUT SUNSCREEN ON, I learned the hard way. If not, go back around 2, and wait, even though I heard random testing is not very good for next week, but you never know
Lauren DeVil
New Member
So it doesn't look like they are going to do testing next week? 