rock n rollercoaster

shopgirl146

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Original Poster
I went to MGM on Thurs. afrternoon and decided to ride RnRc. at the end of the ride (right before you unload) the ride brokedown. we sat in the car with the lights off for a while and then they turned the ride lights on and we sat for a little while longer then they unloaded our car. Once we got off they made an announcement that they had shut down the ride system and then some workers started walking on the side track towards the ride. I was wondering if anyone knew what had happened to cause this or if anyone had had a similar experience and what had caused it? thanks! :)
 

Testtrack321

Well-Known Member
shopgirl146 said:
I went to MGM on Thurs. afrternoon and decided to ride RnRc. at the end of the ride (right before you unload) the ride brokedown. we sat in the car with the lights off for a while and then they turned the ride lights on and we sat for a little while longer then they unloaded our car. Once we got off they made an announcement that they had shut down the ride system and then some workers started walking on the side track towards the ride. I was wondering if anyone knew what had happened to cause this or if anyone had had a similar experience and what had caused it? thanks! :)

From the sound of what happened and where you were located, that's the launch track, so either the launch cable snapped (a la TTD), it malfunctioned, the dolly got stuck, or something bad just happened with the launch system.
 

doop

Well-Known Member
Same thing happened to me. A guy dropped his hat during the ride and they said it set off a sensor, so they had to inspect the whole ride as a precaution. It was cool to see the inside with the lights on though. :D
 

Coasterbp

Member
Testtrack321 said:
From the sound of what happened and where you were located, that's the launch track, so either the launch cable snapped (a la TTD), it malfunctioned, the dolly got stuck, or something bad just happened with the launch system.


There is no launch cable ala TTD. It's an LSM launch. Plus, she said she was stopped AFTER the launch, before you unload. Probably just a sensor problem.
 

Testtrack321

Well-Known Member
Coasterbp said:
There is no launch cable ala TTD. It's an LSM launch. Plus, she said she was stopped AFTER the launch, before you unload. Probably just a sensor problem.

The LSMs don't power the car by itself like on FoF, but instead acts like TTD in which it powers a wench and pulls the car forward with a cable. That's why the car moves back before launch, and if you sit in the front seat you can see it.
 

wdwmagic

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Testtrack321 said:
The LSMs don't power the car by itself like on FoF, but instead acts like TTD in which it powers a wench and pulls the car forward with a cable. That's why the car moves back before launch, and if you sit in the front seat you can see it.
There is no cable on RnR. The LSM actually powers a pusher car udnerneath the main track. This pusher car interfaces onto the main ride train (which is what you feel when the car moves back slightly). The LSMs power the pusher car along the track, which in turn propels the main train.

There are cables ont he launch system for Disneyland Paris Space Mountain, but none on RnR.
 

Lee

Adventurer
Top Thrill Dragster.
An Intamin Rocket Coaster.

Launch cables are used on, as Steve said, Paris' Space Mountain, and Intamin Rocket Coasters like Dragster, Xcelerator, and Storm Runner.

LIM and LSM coasters do not use cables to launch the trains.
 

Testtrack321

Well-Known Member
wdwmagic said:
There is no cable on RnR. The LSM actually powers a pusher car udnerneath the main track. This pusher car interfaces onto the main ride train (which is what you feel when the car moves back slightly). The LSMs power the pusher car along the track, which in turn propels the main train.

There are cables ont he launch system for Disneyland Paris Space Mountain, but none on RnR.

Thanks for the clear up.
 

WDFAN1977

New Member
DOOP! said:
Same thing happened to me. A guy dropped his hat during the ride and they said it set off a sensor, so they had to inspect the whole ride as a precaution. It was cool to see the inside with the lights on though. :D
I like the idea that they would shut down the ride for something as little as that to inspect for safety. I have a friend who was a manager at an amusement park near my home and told me that sensors like that are not on any of their thrill rides. My friend told me they actually have a rollercoaster thrill ride that after every night of use has to have a cement truck come in and recement the poles of the ride back into the ground. This is because the ride itself physically shakes the poles in the ground loose.:eek:
 

DarkMeasures

New Member
WDFAN1977 said:
I like the idea that they would shut down the ride for something as little as that to inspect for safety. I have a friend who was a manager at an amusement park near my home and told me that sensors like that are not on any of their thrill rides. My friend told me they actually have a rollercoaster thrill ride that after every night of use has to have a cement truck come in and recement the poles of the ride back into the ground. This is because the ride itself physically shakes the poles in the ground loose.:eek:

Wow, they need to get bigger footers.
 

HMGhost13

New Member
WDFAN1977 said:
I like the idea that they would shut down the ride for something as little as that to inspect for safety. I have a friend who was a manager at an amusement park near my home and told me that sensors like that are not on any of their thrill rides. My friend told me they actually have a rollercoaster thrill ride that after every night of use has to have a cement truck come in and recement the poles of the ride back into the ground. This is because the ride itself physically shakes the poles in the ground loose.:eek:

where's this at so i know NOT to ride.
 

shopgirl146

New Member
Original Poster
WDFAN1977 said:
I like the idea that they would shut down the ride for something as little as that to inspect for safety. I have a friend who was a manager at an amusement park near my home and told me that sensors like that are not on any of their thrill rides. My friend told me they actually have a rollercoaster thrill ride that after every night of use has to have a cement truck come in and recement the poles of the ride back into the ground. This is because the ride itself physically shakes the poles in the ground loose.:eek:
ya where's this at?
 

Lee

Adventurer
Oh, do tell.

I'd like the name of the park and the ride.

Is it in VA? Not King's Dominion, surely. Ditto for Busch Gardens. :confused:
 

Testtrack321

Well-Known Member
Lee said:
Oh, do tell.

I'd like the name of the park and the ride.

Is it in VA? Not King's Dominion, surely. Ditto for Busch Gardens. :confused:

I don't know, I've heard that HXLC will be removed in 5 years due to maintainance costs, that could be it.
 

Lynx04

New Member
I tried to check Vekoma, Intanim, and Premier Rides to see how they explain how there technologies work. The only website to give a rundown on how the system works was Premier (which uses the LIM technology).

This is from Premier-rides.com

How do Linear Induction Motors (LIMs) work?

Just like the variety of electric motors found in your home, the ones in your refrigerator, disposal, furnace fan or hair dryer. The only difference is these motors produce a rotary motion, where LIMs create linear (straight line) motion.

An induction motor operates with alternating current supplied directly to an electrical coil called a stator. If the rotor and stator are unrolled into a flat plane, the induction motor becomes a linear induction motor. An electrical current pulses through the stator coils creating an electro-magnetic force that pulls at the now flat metal bars, thus creating forward motion.

In Premier Rides' LIM-powered coasters, the flat metal bars are conductive aluminum fins on each side of the train. They are mounted between each train's wheel assembly and the seats. The stator coils are found in a series of anchored motor housings which extend out from beneath the loading platform along the track to more than 200 feet, ending at the base of the first hill. As the train accelerates, each fin passes between a pair of stator coils. The stator coils are powered consecutively in a time sequence, pulling the train forward until it reaches a speed of more than 70 mph in just over three seconds.

The momentum created in this brief launch period carries the train up the first hill. Gravity and momentum, the forces found on traditional roller coaster rides, then carry the train through the remainder of the course.



Now correct me if I am wrong, both LSM and Hydraulic Launch use a push cart. The difference is that LSM uses magnets to push the cart and Hydraulic uses a cable. Also after reading Vekoma's website, they have stated that they can now use Hydraulic launch systems to "reduce power demand". Do you think Disney may upgrade to a hydraulic launching system?
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
josh_e_washie said:
Does anyone know if pictures exist online of RnRc with the lights on??? That would be awesome! And probably a little scary! :)

All I have is DV from loading at DLP`s identical RnRC (theming apart) when it went 101 - basically most of the audio stopped (spooky in itself) and the launch tunnel was lit by VERY bright lighting - almost as if the strobes (DLP RnRC has your car chasing strobe lighting on the launch walls instead of WDWs UV lit `crash barriers`) were stuck on. Eventually the guests inside were brought out of the tunnel on foot. Thats when a CM in a suit asked me to stop filming.
 

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