Resale vs. direct perks

Anthony Alsup

Member
Original Poster
I'm sure this has been asked before, but I could not find it. We are considering buying resale and my wife has some questions. I know that resale points cannot be used to book certain things, but what are the other restrictions on resale? Can resale members use DVC discount on party tickets, APs, etc.? Can resale members go to meet and greets or DVC-only cruises?
 

JaxFLBear

Well-Known Member
The resale restrictions apply to point usage only. Resale points (purchased after 3/20/2011) can only be used for DVC Resort Reservations and World Collection (RCI and Buena Vista Trading Co.) Exchanges. Member Cruises are out since these are (technically) Disney Collection Reservations.
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
I did not think that there where any Disney Vacation Club only cruises. I was told that Disney Vacation Club only books part of the ship and the rest is still open for those that pay cash.
 

Anthony Alsup

Member
Original Poster
So do you get a membership card as a DVC member to get into special events and things? If so, is the resale members card the same as direct? And I don't know about the cruise, just something I had heard. Seems like there is a lot of unknown about all of this.
 

JaxFLBear

Well-Known Member
I did not think that there where any Disney Vacation Club only cruises. I was told that Disney Vacation Club only books part of the ship and the rest is still open for those that pay cash.
DVC charters the entire ship for an annual Members Only Cruise. The next member cruise is 9/28/2016 on the Magic out of NYC to Canada and it's sold out.

So do you get a membership card as a DVC member to get into special events and things? If so, is the resale members card the same as direct? And I don't know about the cruise, just something I had heard. Seems like there is a lot of unknown about all of this.
All owners listed on the membership will receive member id cards. You will need to show the member id card along with a photo id to receive any discounts or to take advantage of any special events. The member id cards are the same regardless of how you purchased your membership (direct or resale).
 

lostpro9het

Well-Known Member
Seems like there is a lot of unknown about all of this.
There really isn't. If you buy resale you are limited to:
Home resort booking at 11 months and later
Non home resort booking at 7 months or later
RCI exchange.

All members get to take advantage of DVC discounts where applicable and special events, i.e. mixers, bashes, and such (Note: a cruise is NOT a special event)

If you buy direct you get all of the above plus:
Disney collection vacations
Spending more

IMO the only questions you should ask yourself is:
1: Do I want to use points for Disney vacations that are not in Disney World or Disneyland?
2: Do I want to use my points for Disney cruises?

If the answers above are no and no, then go resale. If the answers above are no and yes then you should research #2 more because using points for cruising is, IMO, not a good use of points.
 
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Phonedave

Well-Known Member
Keep in mind that nothing pertaining to perks are set in stone. The only thing that you are assured of when you buy DVC (direct or otherwise) is the actualy time share itself (the point, the DVC property you bought into, the units available there, etc). All the other stuff, ABD, DCL, RCI trading, discounts, etc are not part of the deal. DVC can change those at will and set up whatever rules they would like. They may make resale the same as direct again, or they may change everything, who knows?
 
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DVCPluto

Well-Known Member
We bought resale, and I'm very glad we did. We've discovered that using your points at DVC resorts is the best value. If you want to stay in another resort on property or take a cruise (nonDVC), you always have the option to rent your points and use that cash to fund your vacation (if you're comfortable with that). We haven't done this because I want to use my points at WDW and I'm stubborn that way. ;)

Honestly, I think the best thing to focus on is if you want to visit WDW frequently because that's really what you're buying into.

If so, congrats on possibly becoming a DVC member!!
 

Lynne M

Active Member
Once you look at point charts, you'll see that you're not really losing anything by not being able to use points to book cruises, ABD, and the non-DVC Disney resorts. The point costs are extreme, go up every year, and access to those options on points is often restricted - for example, not all cabins or cruises on DCL are available on points. There have been extended periods where DCL has not allowed ANY bookings on points. Offering those options is a sales tactic to make the membership look flexible, and I don't think most members make use of them. What most do, I think, is rent out their points and use the cash to pay for those other vacations - you come out way ahead, financially, if you do it that way.

Some people think that buying direct is a sort of protection against losing perks. That's a mistake. No matter who you buy from, your contract gives you the right to stay at DVC resorts, subject to availability, for the life of the contract. Anything and everything else - discounts, use of points for other vacations, special events, perks, etc - is not part of your ownership, and the paperwork states that very clearly. All of that other stuff can come and go at the whim of DVC and the various associated Disney divisions.

In short, DVC is a good value when you use it to stay at DVC resorts. Nothing else is guaranteed, whether you buy direct or resale. Don't buy for perks, don't buy for cruises or ABD.
 

EOD K9

Well-Known Member
I made my initial purchase through DVC as I had seen the kiosks for years. I didn't know there was such a thing as resale at the time. I have rented points to fund my DCL cruising habit which has worked out great. I just recently added on at the same resort and use year. I don't plan on using them for anything but DVC or renting. In this case it is a good option. If just staying for DVC, it is your best bet.
 

Phonedave

Well-Known Member
I made my initial purchase through DVC as I had seen the kiosks for years. I didn't know there was such a thing as resale at the time. I have rented points to fund my DCL cruising habit which has worked out great. I just recently added on at the same resort and use year. I don't plan on using them for anything but DVC or renting. In this case it is a good option. If just staying for DVC, it is your best bet.

I bought my contract direct as well, for the same reason (no idea about reasale at the time). I used points for a cruise once becaue when I bought, i recevied developer points. Something like 200 or so "bonus" points in my account, but I had a short window when I could use them. I tried my friends and family. I said I had rooms available, if anyone could fo, but nobody could fit it into their plans, so my kids and I took a cruise on the points. I would not use my "normal" points for a cruise.

I was going to add on with a resale contract in the same use year (bigger family, could use a few more points) but decided to hold off. With the way airfare and park admission iare going, we are no longer sure about the frequency we will be at WDW. We may become one of those once every three year families..There are other vacation values elsewhere - kind of liking all inclusive trips now - cruises, and Sandals/Beaches.
 

ScoutN

OV 104
Premium Member
I do not think he has gotten the actual question answered about DVC-only cruises. On the DVC-only cruises, members can book their room with cash. His question is can he still book with cash, not points, on those particular cruises. He is not looking to use points to make the reservation.
 

Anthony Alsup

Member
Original Poster
Yeah, us too. My other thing is, Saratoga Springs seems like definitely the best "deal". Between price per point, length of contract and maint fees, it seems like a no-brainer. But I don't like the location of SS. How important is it really to own at the place you want to stay the most?
 

lostpro9het

Well-Known Member
How important is it really to own at the place you want to stay the most?

Depends on where and when you plan on consistently staying. If you plan on going every year during F&W or F&G you can pretty much forget about BWV and BCV for an extended amount of time at the 7-month window. if you like NYE or the 4th, you can forget about BLT, Poly, VGF at the 7-month window.
 

Anthony Alsup

Member
Original Poster
We love F&W and Beach Club is our favorite resort, but length of contract and price per point makes it not worth it. Leaning toward BLT, but price per point hurts.
 

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