Reprocussions from BTMRR accident...

[Merlin]

Originally posted by Bagheera
How about this angle?

Two words: Michael Eisner

As much as Michael wants to leave his legacy as head of the Walt Disney Company, and as much as he did originally with Disneyland, it was still referred to as "Walt's Park." Yet, at Walt Disney World, there was plenty of land ripe for development, a place where he could make his mark.

So Michael spend lots and lots and lots of money to build the place up, while simultaneously cutting back at Disneyland, so that "Walt's Park" would no longer have the cachet that it once had. In this way, Michael could ensure that his legacy would be greater than Walt's and that his ego could start to be satisfied.

(Please note: I am not stating this as my opinion, though I have seen it put forward on other web sites, and thought that it could provide additional input to this discussion. Also, I would not rule it out as inconceivable.)

I agree with you and think you might be onto something. Many of Eisner's actions suggest he is jealous and/or threatened by living in Walt's shadow.

 

[GrumpysGal]

Re: Repercussions from Accident

Originally posted by HennieBogan1966
Well if you were to evaluate how many guests each of Disneys' parks have had since their openings, versus how many "incidents" or accidents have occured, I would think that the
number would be heavily in favor of a very safe environment at each park.

"The death was the 10th at the park since it opened in 1955", said police Sgt. Rick Martinez. Not all the deaths have been ride-related.-Associated Press

I think that proves that it's pretty darn safe!

(It's good to be back to my other Disney home....WDWMAGIC! I have been so busy with school, but I think I will get back into the game here now......I have missed it a lot!!!!):sohappy:

 

[ArsonWinter]

Re: Re: Repercussions from Accident

Originally posted by GrumpysGal
"The death was the 10th at the park since it opened in 1955", said police Sgt. Rick Martinez. Not all the deaths have been ride-related.-Associated Press

I think that proves that it's pretty darn safe!

(It's good to be back to my other Disney home....WDWMAGIC! I have been so busy with school, but I think I will get back into the game here now......I have missed it a lot!!!!):sohappy:

Right... you run the risk of an auto accident or airplane crash (of which, there have been more than ten in the past 48 years) that you would at Disneyland. Plus, not all of these deaths were ride-related. So, you're still pretty safe.

Also, on a side note, while DCA isn't the... most liked park in the world, at least it's open, and can handle crowds who are disapointed from having so many closed attractions in DL. Or maybe I'm being optomistic on both accounts...

 

[MouseMadness]

Originally posted by Merlin
I agree with you and think you might be onto something. Many of Eisner's actions suggest he is jealous and/or threatened by living in Walt's shadow.

That could be, but Eisner will ALWAYS be in Walt's shadow, no matter what he does. That shadow is too big to step out of, lol. When I see Eisner, I immediately think... well, some not so nice things. But if I see old pictures or video of Walt, I get butterflies in my stomach. That guy WAS magic, no two ways about it.

*cleans up cheese I just spread around* sorry, didn't mean to get mushy on ya. :lol:

 

[netenyahoo]

IF Disney is too blame for the incident then I feel that Cynthia and T Irby should be fired and anyone else at TDA who doesn't know how to run a park. DL really needs new blood anyhow. Maintenance checks should be intensified and more stringent. So many of the rides at DL are having problems lately. Space Mtn is getting redone, so once it opens it should be good. Splash is closed for a couple months now to rehab it. BTMR is going to down for months, so they should also use that downtime to do a major refurb on the ride.

 

[CSOM]

Re: Re: Repercussions from Accident

Originally posted by GrumpysGal
"The death was the 10th at the park since it opened in 1955", said police Sgt. Rick Martinez. Not all the deaths have been ride-related.-Associated Press

I think that proves that it's pretty darn safe!

(It's good to be back to my other Disney home....WDWMAGIC! I have been so busy with school, but I think I will get back into the game here now......I have missed it a lot!!!!):sohappy:

Actually, I think that all it proves is that only 10 people have died. That doesn't count all of the serious and semi-serious injuries that have happend over the years.

I do agree the safety record is pretty dang good, but it's not as good as we would like to believe.

 

[CSOM]

Originally posted by Bagheera
Life [n] An invariably fatal disease spread by sexual contact.

I can't let this go by without someone noticing it.... one of the better posts I've read in any board on any subject... :lol:

Thanks

I was also going to reply to Mouse Madness saying she(he?) wouldn't get out of bed then, even though I think most people die in their sleep don't they?

 

[MouseMadness]

Originally posted by CSOM
I can't let this go by without someone noticing it.... one of the better posts I've read in any board on any subject... :lol:

Thanks

I was also going to reply to Mouse Madness saying she(he?) wouldn't get out of bed then, even though I think most people die in their sleep don't they?

(she)

Well, perhaps I would be safe standing in a door way? :lookaroun

:lol:

 

[Clemster]

Originally posted by Bagheera
How about this angle?

Two words: Michael Eisner

As much as Michael wants to leave his legacy as head of the Walt Disney Company, and as much as he did originally with Disneyland, it was still referred to as "Walt's Park." Yet, at Walt Disney World, there was plenty of land ripe for development, a place where he could make his mark.

So Michael spend lots and lots and lots of money to build the place up, while simultaneously cutting back at Disneyland, so that "Walt's Park" would no longer have the cachet that it once had. In this way, Michael could ensure that his legacy would be greater than Walt's and that his ego could start to be satisfied.

(Please note: I am not stating this as my opinion, though I have seen it put forward on other web sites, and thought that it could provide additional input to this discussion. Also, I would not rule it out as inconceivable.)

It make a great conspircy theory that when Michael Eisner retires WDW will be renamed MEW (Michael Eisner World).

Or could it be that this guy is just trying to run a multi-billion dollar a year business trying to keep both customer and share holder happy.

He maybe CEO but that doesn't mean he knows everything that goes on in the company. If say the amount of maintaince staff and the relevent tasks the perform has been cut, the chances are Eisner wouldn't even know about it, corporate business doesn't work like that.

but as always I could be wrong!

 

[Merlin]

Originally posted by Clemster

Or could it be that this guy is just trying to run a multi-billion dollar a year business trying to keep both customer and share holder happy.

Well he's doing a pretty lousy job on both counts. I'm not referring to the Eisner of the 80s and 90s (the Eisner who "saved the company"). I'm talking about the Eisner of TODAY (which is what matters). I really hope Disney drops Eisner like a bad habit...and soon!

 

[Bagheera]

Originally posted by Merlin
Well he's doing a pretty lousy job on both counts. I'm not referring to the Eisner of the 80s and 90s (the Eisner who "saved the company"). I'm talking about the Eisner of TODAY (which is what matters). I really hope Disney drops Eisner like a bad habit...and soon!

Ah, but the Eisner of the 80s and early 90s had Frank Wells to tell him, "No, Michael. We can't do that. We're Disney."

 

[Merlin]

Originally posted by Bagheera
Ah, but the Eisner of the 80s and early 90s had Frank Wells to tell him, "No, Michael. We can't do that. We're Disney."

Very VERY good point!! And something that a lot of people tend to forget. A lot of the credit that we give Eisner for Disney's turnaround may not be entirely deserved. Frank Wells was just not in the limelight the way Eisner has always been.

 

[Merlin]

Re: Re: Re: Repercussions from Accident

Originally posted by ArsonWinter
Right... you run the risk of an auto accident or airplane crash (of which, there have been more than ten in the past 48 years) that you would at Disneyland. Plus, not all of these deaths were ride-related. So, you're still pretty safe.

That may be true, but statistically speaking you run a MUCH greater risk of serious injury at Disneyland than you would at Six Flags or Knott's Berry Farm. Comparing Disneyland to automobile statistics doesn't prove that Disneyland is safe. It just proves it's safer than an automobile. But just about EVERYTHING is safer than an automobile. Face it, Disneyland just isn't the safe place it used to be. And it IS due to ride malfunctions.