Remove the Crane at WDW

networkpro

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What other way would you recommend? Having a bunch of guys anchored down and scalling the castle at night? I'm not sure that'd be very safe. Since you're bringing this up...you've obviously seen the crane and how big it is. It's not exactly something that can be hidden...

That would crush the fiberglass and cement skin of the "castle"
 

Remove the Crane

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What other way would you recommend? Having a bunch of guys anchored down and scalling the castle at night? I'm not sure that'd be very safe. Since you're bringing this up...you've obviously seen the crane and how big it is. It's not exactly something that can be hidden...
If they must leave the crane then use it after hours. Pretty easy. We saw them lower it and it actually did disappear pretty well.
 

TBrooker11

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If they must leave the crane then use it after hours. Pretty easy. We saw them lower it and it actually did disappear pretty well.

Again, there are not as many hours available where guests are not there to do this as there was in years past with the growing crowds and longer park hours to accommodate those guests. Not to mention bringing in a ton of massive floodlights that would have to be brought in and taken out every night. That would result in a bigger crew needed, more equipment rentals, even less hours to actually work on the castle and all of that results in a massive jump in the price of park tickets. We all wish we didn't have it there but we also probably wish we could drive into work without hitting any red lights. Disney can't be perfect, as no person or company can be. From what I have seen they do their best on most days to limit the amount of time the crane is visible.
 

Remove the Crane

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The crane is there from Jan-Feb every year. They do more work with it during the week when it is less busy and it is barely even visible during the weekends or when it is more busy. If it is really that much of an eyesore, I suggest you plan your visits for another time during the year.
Is it ever up in November?
 

blueboxdoctor

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I have seen the crane and thought it was kind of cool seeing the people work on the castle. It didn't at all ruin my trip or come close to ruining it. It's what happens when your park is open every day of the year. There's always some sort of work going on in order for the parks to continually look good. I'd rather see them keeping up with the parks then letting them sit unattended to.
 

copcarguyp71

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We usually (and unfortunately) seem to visit while the crane is prevalent in all of our pics and the "nothing to see here" walls are up. I maintain that they should really consider just revamping the Cinderella Castle facade with embedded multicolored LED lights. Yes...I understand that it would not be cheap but when taking into account the amount I am sure they pay for the rental of the crane and paying the operator and employees to net the castle as well as the huge hole it punches in "suspension of disbelief" I really think it would be an investment in guest satisfaction well spent.
 

Goofyernmost

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We usually (and unfortunately) seem to visit while the crane is prevalent in all of our pics and the "nothing to see here" walls are up. I maintain that they should really consider just revamping the Cinderella Castle facade with embedded multicolored LED lights. Yes...I understand that it would not be cheap but when taking into account the amount I am sure they pay for the rental of the crane and paying the operator and employees to net the castle as well as the huge hole it punches in "suspension of disbelief" I really think it would be an investment in guest satisfaction well spent.
It also would be terribly ugly the rest of the year. There would be no way to hide the lights and they still have to perform yearly maintenance on the castle to clean and paint. I'm not thinking anything would change for the better. Sad, but true. The real world occasionally has to show up in our fantasy's.
 

copcarguyp71

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It also would be terribly ugly the rest of the year. There would be no way to hide the lights and they still have to perform yearly maintenance on the castle to clean and paint. I'm not thinking anything would change for the better. Sad, but true. The real world occasionally has to show up in our fantasy's.

They could be inserted from behind (since the facade is fiberglass) and LED's are fairly maintenance free if quality units are purchased. They would not even be seen much like the twinkle lights you see in many effects that are not visible until they are strobed to give the twinkle effect. I really believe there must be an answer to the crane...this is just one entirely plausible alternative but if it is this or another solution I would not care. I get tired of seeing the crane. I would really rather see no lights at all in lieu of the absence of the crane. And (from a personal opinion) how is the castle looking like it is caught by a fishing trawler during the day not ugly or distracting with the current net lights?
 

BoarderPhreak

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Could be worse... It could look like this. :p

Cinderella-Castle_Full_4075.jpg
 

Goofyernmost

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They could be inserted from behind (since the facade is fiberglass) and LED's are fairly maintenance free if quality units are purchased. They would not even be seen much like the twinkle lights you see in many effects that are not visible until they are strobed to give the twinkle effect. I really believe there must be an answer to the crane...this is just one entirely plausible alternative but if it is this or another solution I would not care. I get tired of seeing the crane. I would really rather see no lights at all in lieu of the absence of the crane. And (from a personal opinion) how is the castle looking like it is caught by a fishing trawler during the day not ugly or distracting with the current net lights?
My point was that with them embedded or not, the crane will still have to be there to maintain the Castle. They cannot use step ladder to clean and paint the outside and sitting in the open in the Florida sun does not equal long lasting external painting or cleaning. As someone else said the big crane takes around 8 hours to put together and another 8 hours to take apart and move out. The usual sequence is that the large crane is the first one. That one cannot be lowered during the day simply because the boom takes up to much room. As they work down the Castle walls they can use the smaller extendable one and that I have seen many times with the boom down sitting along side the castle usually behind a wall. It is all about timing. If you happen to be there during the time that it is in place, you will see it. However, it has been there approximately the same amount of time, during the same dates every year. It can now be planned around. Last year it was there longer because of more extensive work on the Castle then usual and they were working on it during the day as well when they could see what they were doing. That is probably a safety issue at those heights.

As for how the netting used now isn't ugly or distracting... it is, but, it is only temporary and not permanent. There would be no way to hide those lights if they were permanent. The best they could do is cover them and then the crane would be back at the same times to uncover and cover them back up.
 

copcarguyp71

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My point was that with them embedded or not, the crane will still have to be there to maintain the Castle. They cannot use step ladder to clean and paint the outside and sitting in the open in the Florida sun does not equal long lasting external painting or cleaning. As someone else said the big crane takes around 8 hours to put together and another 8 hours to take apart and move out. The usual sequence is that the large crane is the first one. That one cannot be lowered during the day simply because the boom takes up to much room. As they work down the Castle walls they can use the smaller extendable one and that I have seen many times with the boom down sitting along side the castle usually behind a wall. It is all about timing. If you happen to be there during the time that it is in place, you will see it. However, it has been there approximately the same amount of time, during the same dates every year. It can now be planned around. Last year it was there longer because of more extensive work on the Castle then usual and they were working on it during the day as well when they could see what they were doing. That is probably a safety issue at those heights.

As for how the netting used now isn't ugly or distracting... it is, but, it is only temporary and not permanent. There would be no way to hide those lights if they were permanent. The best they could do is cover them and then the crane would be back at the same times to uncover and cover them back up.

Not if they were inserted individually from the back. I've seen it done. no maintenance required. I work in the emergency lighting industry and have worked with the sign industry as well. It is entirely possible and can be done in an inconspicuous way with much more minimal maintenance and upkeep. Perhaps once every five years at best. Ugly netting plus a crane to apply it is just a lose-lose proposition IMO.

like I said it may not be the only possible answer...just one plausible one. You cannot tell me that if they cared enough they could not apply the imagineers towards making this situation better and not having fishing nets over the castle if they actually identified this as a problem.
 

BoarderPhreak

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The problem with embedding LEDs is that you have to drill, literally, thousands and thousands of holes into the castle - from the inside. And many areas of it just aren't accessible. You'd have better luck drilling in from the outside, but again - large areas just aren't accessible from the back (interior walls, small spaces and other infrastructure, for example). "Low maintenance" or not, each hole is subject to leaking and not exactly easy to undo, down the road. I'm sure Disney doesn't enjoy the net-on, net-off approach either but it is what it is. Honestly, I'd just use projection and lasers.
 

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