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JohnD

JohnD

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
I think you meant Fox and MSNBC, CNN has always been closer to the middle while MSNBC was far left and Fox far right.

Which confirms the posts earlier about the audience dictating bias in the news, CNN has a much smaller audience than either of the stations catering to the extremes.
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CNN claims they are closer to the middle but that's a croc. That definitely wasn't the case with Zucker. It was get DJT (if that is the new standard here) all the time. The jury is still out with the new CEO. But it's still decidedly the get DJT network. They, like MSNBC, can't contain their glee.
 
Vegas Disney Fan

Vegas Disney Fan

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JohnD said:
CNN claims they are closer to the middle but that's a croc. That definitely wasn't the case with Zucker. It was get DJT (if that is the new standard here) all the time. The jury is still out with the new CEO. But it's still decidedly the get DJT network. They, like MSNBC, can't contain their glee.
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It’s not CNN that says they’re less biased, it’s the experts. Media bias studies typically place CNN as skews/leans left while the other two will show in the partisan left partisan right columns.

They aren’t unbiased, just closer to the center by comparison.
 
JohnD

JohnD

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Riviera Rita said:
Yes, but, let's be honest here, the current version of the GOP are not in politics to help anyone except one person and while Biden and the Democrat Party are not perfect, they are not behaving in any kind of manner deserving of the scrutiny that the GOP and its members 'serving' the person deserve. Just look at DeSantis, for example, despite the way Trump has been trash talking him this week DeSantis posted a tweet criticising the Manhattan DA and the indicements against Trump and if CNN and MSNBC want to criticise that then fair play to them. If Laurence O'Donnell wants to point out Jim Jordan's utter stupidity with his endless correspondence to Alvin Bragg, then so be it.
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Except you read DeSantis opposition to Bragg as support for Trump. It's not. It's possible, just possible, to be in complete opposition of a DA, weaponizing the Justice system to achieve political ends without directly supporting its target. If you think any Republican wants DJT to rot in prison over this, you're mistaken. If they can do it to him, they can do it to you.
 
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MandaM

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Disstevefan1 said:
One customer bases’ lie is another customers bases’ truth.

Reality is somewhere in between.

And TWDC learning to serve its customer base has nothing to do with this.
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A news source is supposed to deliver news. They’re not supposed to instruct their employees to make up lies so their viewers (who they called “crazies”) won’t change the channel and lose them profit. That couldn’t be further from reality.

They’re not serving their customer base. They’re manipulating their base and letting them believe they’re getting news, when in actuality, they’re getting propaganda that makes them feel good and therefore makes the company money.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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JohnD said:
Except you read DeSantis opposition to Bragg as support for Trump. It's not. It's possible, just possible, to be in complete opposition of a DA, weaponizing the Justice system to achieve political ends without directly supporting its target. If you think any Republican wants DJT to rot in prison over this, you're mistaken. If they can do it to him, they can do it to you.
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Only if they've actually broken laws.

It's not like this is a random political witch hunt where they are just making things up. There's plenty of supporting evidence (although I do think the Georgia investigation has even stronger evidence to indict him).
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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MandaM said:
A news source is supposed to deliver news. They’re not supposed to instruct their employees to make up lies so their viewers (who they called “crazies”) won’t change the channel and lose them profit. That couldn’t be further from reality.

They’re not serving their customer base. They’re manipulating their base and letting them believe they’re getting news, when in actuality, they’re getting propaganda that makes them feel good and therefore makes the company money.
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I think TWDC should learn to serve it’s customer base.
 
Dranth

Dranth

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JohnD said:
Except you read DeSantis opposition to Bragg as support for Trump. It's not. It's possible, just possible, to be in complete opposition of a DA, weaponizing the Justice system to achieve political ends without directly supporting its target. If you think any Republican wants DJT to rot in prison over this, you're mistaken. If they can do it to him, they can do it to you.
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Wait, are you trying to tell me that if I commit a crime I might also be brought up on charges? That already happens so I would argue that this is the opposite and that he is now being treated like everyone else. Besides, he hasn’t been convicted of anything yet and no one has even seen the charges so I don’t know how you know this is some miscarriage of justice.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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JohnD said:
CNN claims they are closer to the middle but that's a croc. That definitely wasn't the case with Zucker. It was get DJT (if that is the new standard here) all the time. The jury is still out with the new CEO. But it's still decidedly the get DJT network. They, like MSNBC, can't contain their glee.
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Maybe because DJT went after them for having the audacity to ask him questions? And did things like call them dumb b*stards? And who repeatedly gauged their professionalism simply by their ratings? Yeah... wonder why they didn't line up to kiss the ring?
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Disstevefan1 said:
I think TWDC should learn to serve it’s customer base.
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Newsflash.. private companies aren't setup to 'serve' any customers. They work to attract them, provide products or services.

These veiled attempts at trying to critique their creative output or initiatives as some sort of lack of focus or service are pretty pathetic. Just say it and own your coat.
 
Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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Dranth said:
Wait, are you trying to tell me that if I commit a crime I might also be brought up on charges? That already happens so I would argue that this is the opposite and that he is now being treated like everyone else. Besides, he hasn’t been convicted of anything yet and no one has even seen the charges so I don’t know how you know this is some miscarriage of justice.
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It’s almost as if he’s just parroting the right wing talking points on this verbatim…
 
Mr. Stay Puft

Mr. Stay Puft

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JohnD said:
Except you read DeSantis opposition to Bragg as support for Trump. It's not. It's possible, just possible, to be in complete opposition of a DA, weaponizing the Justice system to achieve political ends without directly supporting its target. If you think any Republican wants DJT to rot in prison over this, you're mistaken. If they can do it to him, they can do it to you.
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None of us are paying off p*rn stars with campaign funds. I think we're safe from that.
 
Riviera Rita

Riviera Rita

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JohnD said:
Except you read DeSantis opposition to Bragg as support for Trump. It's not. It's possible, just possible, to be in complete opposition of a DA, weaponizing the Justice system to achieve political ends without directly supporting its target. If you think any Republican wants DJT to rot in prison over this, you're mistaken. If they can do it to him, they can do it to you.
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No, I don't, I see it as DeSantis not wanting alienate Trump's supporters because if Trump goes to prison or is unable to run for whatever reason DeSantis doesn't want them to see him as disloyal to Trump and refuse to vote for him. It's all the same two faced nonsense that is peddled at Fox News. DeSantis is probably celebrating Trump's indictment behind closed doors.
Your last line is straight from Trump, he has said that exact phrase several times. One problem, you have to have been a naughty person to have a Grand jury indict you and they had evidence for more than one crime because the reply to one of Jim Jordan's letters to Alvin Bragg elicited a response that mentions crimes as in the plural.
 
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MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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Kamikaze said:
But I believe the trick is that the budget needs to be balanced at the end of the fiscal year - they can't just keep running a tab on the taxpayers. So that means having to cut other services to pay these firms.
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Now... this is... interesting.

If the budget does indeed have to be balanced, then the New District only has access to cash-on-hand to pay for lawyers.

So, can they divert money earmarked for an infrastructure project to pay for lawyers?

No, as per the surprise contract, the District has to do what Disney says. And if Disney wants that project, then the District must provide.

Can they raise money to afford lawyers?

No, as per the surprise contract, Disney has final say on floating bonds.

Unless there's some loophole in the surprise contract, it seems Disney can tie up all of the District's cash in the projects they name.
 
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