News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

Lilofan

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The economy of the state will certainly take a hit. Property values in the area around WDW will probably decline. But people will still move to the state because of weather and lower taxes. State will just need to look at attracting other industries - tech, biomed, etc. It had a growing film industry, but lost that to Georgia.
Tourism and the cheap labor it employs statewide is the #1 industry in the state.
 

Lilofan

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Florida can attract other industries. Which it should be doing to mitigate the fluctuation of tourism revenues.
Shout out to President Obama who made a last minute visit to MK about 10 years ago which had to close the park to him one morning and invited guests. Iger , Staggs were present and Obama talked in front of the castle about tourism, its importance to FL and looking into lessening the barriers for immigrants to visit and or work and live in FL.
 

peter11435

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The economy of the state will certainly take a hit. Property values in the area around WDW will probably decline. But people will still move to the state because of weather and lower taxes. State will just need to look at attracting other industries - tech, biomed, etc. It had a growing film industry, but lost that to Georgia.
Florida needs to attract new industries with or without Disney. Don’t expect Florida to keep having low taxes if it took a massive hit in tourism revenue. What are you going to do with the nearly half a million Floridians that would now be unemployed?
 

LAKid53

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Shout out to President Obama who made a last minute visit to MK about 10 years ago which had to close the park to him one morning and invited guests. Iger , Staggs were present and Obama talked in front of the castle about tourism, its importance to FL and looking into lessening the barriers for immigrants to visit and or work and live in FL.

And what does this have to do with my comment? Florida needs to attract other industry to mitigate the fluctuations of tourism. Tourism dollars come from discretionary income and thus are sensitive to economic fluctuations. With a low corporate income tax rate of 5.5% and no intangibles tax, it's attractive, tax wise, to businesses. A push to shift from a service sector based economy to other fields would improve the long term economic health of the state.
 

GoofGoof

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Does Florida need approval from RCID/Disney to amend the Reedy Creek Improvement Act to replace the landowner elected Board with a Governor appointed Board? I would think and hope so. Is there something in the Florida Constitution that would pertain to such a scenario?

It would be odd if the Florida legislature could make such a change to the district’s control without the landowners’ permission. But if they were creating a new district with said taxing authority they would need permission.
That’s the biggest open question. Many pages back there was an extensive debate on whether the state constitution would allow it and people smarter than me quoted the relevant parts. I think the consensus conclusion is it seems very unlikely that the state could create a special district that assesses taxes on landowners but does not allow landowners on the board unless the landowners voted in favor of that setup. So if the legislature follows the governor‘s lead and attempts this it will most likely be challenged in court and most likely deemed unconstitutional. Then the play is to amend the state constitution to allow it.
ANY such amendment will require 60% of those voting in 2024 approving to pass. And such an amendment likely won't. It cannot be targeted towards a single corporation, so broadly written. Every single corporation in the state will make sure its employees understand the measure.
Agreed. Think of the long term implications. If such an amendment passed it would essentially allow the Governor to randomly tax anyone who opposes him as a punishment any time he wants. So if your neighbors put up yard signs supporting his opponents he could create a special district that taxes your whole neighborhood arbitrarily.

Think of the impact to the larger state economy. Many businesses will not consider moving jobs or facilities to the state knowing that on a whim the Governor could just punish you with higher taxes without any justification. FL was trying to attract other industries outside of tourism and agriculture to diversify the state economy. This would be devastating to that effort. Many state leaders spent years making FL business friendly in an attempt to attract more and better jobs. All that could be reversed out over a silly political grudge.

So all that being said, should the people of FL see this for what it is and vote no, yes they should….will they….who knows. People get swept up in political talking point and culture war debates so some may vote yes because they don’t think about the real long term impact. Your faith in the population is greater than mine.
 
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LAKid53

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Florida needs to attract new industries with or without Disney. Don’t expect Florida to keep having low taxes if it took a massive hit in tourism revenue. What are you going to do with the nearly half a million Floridians that would now be unemployed?

Florida's major source of revenue are sales and corporate taxes. Close to 25% of the residents are retired.

Legislature will need voter approval to increase state sales tax rate of 6%. What it might do is remove some of the commodities that are exempt from sales taxes. Or attempt another go at a services tax. But that failed in the past.
 

peter11435

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Florida's major source of revenue are sales and corporate taxes. Close to 25% of the residents are retired.

Legislature will need voter approval to increase state sales tax rate of 6%. What it might do is remove some of the commodities that are exempt from sales taxes. Or attempt another go at a services tax. But that failed in the past.
They’d have to find some way to make up the lost revenue.
 

Disney Analyst

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Tourism is Vital to Florida's Economy…​

Tourism is a major player in Florida's economic landscape. In 2019, the leisure and hospitality industry accounted for nearly 6% of real state GDP, 14% of total employment and 15% of state sales tax collection.1

Total visitors to Florida averaged 119 million in the five years prior to 2020, with domestic travelers accounting for the bulk of this number (Chart 1). Arrivals reached a record high of 131.4 million in 2019, just prior to the pandemic, growing at an annual average rate of 5.9% over the five-year period. According to research commissioned by Visit Florida (the state's tourism marketing agency), in 2019 out-of-state visitors added $96.5 billion to Florida's economy, more than the entire GDP of 13 other states.

At a regional level, the areas most dependent on tourism are the Central region, followed by the Southeast and the Southwest. In 2019, valued added from the tourism industry was estimated at over $30 billion for the Central Florida economy with the top two employers in the region being Walt Disney World Resort and Universal Orlando Resort. At the county level, Orange County (encompassing Orlando) and Miami-Dade topped visitor spending in 2019 at $30.7 billion and $21.7 billion respectively (Chart 2).

 

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