News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[lazyboy97o]

What about the road signs when RCID goes away? Can Disney bring every corporate resource to bear so they won’t be forced to use boring, to code, green road signs?

How are the sign not to code?

Instead of focusing on road signs, if Disney continues to use the full power of the Disney Corporation to attempt to overturn the will of the people, does the pushback stop with RCID?

That didn’t happen.

Can the state create a new taxing district (local or otherwise) in which to place the former RCID and use it to insulate the counties from harm by collecting status quo taxes or target TWDC with an increased tax burden?

I am wondering how much force is behind the governor’s bluster about taxing Disney.

No, the state cannot just create an area that taxes more. Those extra taxes have to be for a purpose.

I also wonder how the fact that there were *multiple* districts - not just RCID - affected by this non-renewal legislation will impact things. The fact it’s a decision not to renew - not just suddenly revoke - may also factor in. Lastly, technically RCID is a wholly separate entity from TWDC. Now, through various anti-market measures they exerted universal control over this entity. All this will be fascinating considerations going forward

No, it doesn’t matter. They outright said it is about Disney. That they threw some others under with them doesn’t matter. It would help if they were being sneaky about it but they said it out loud.

 

[castlecake2.0]

The property taxes that they pay now go to Reedy Creek. In the future they will go to Orange county so there is no change,

Omg have you read any of the information in the last 100 pages? Disney already pays taxes to the counties AND reedy creek.

 

[lazyboy97o]

talking sex to my 5 year old in class
making a law to prohibit that talk

You have it backwards. The law you describe was rejected by legislators. They adamantly didn’t want to prohibit talking to five year old about sex and sexual activities because it would “gut the bill.”

 

[Married5Times]

Are you for or against the school having that talk with your five year old? Do you want to decide when to have it or the Government decide?

govt stay out, please

 

[danlb_2000]

everything has been wrong:

talking sex to my 5 year old in class
making a law to prohibit that talk
CEO opening his mouth recklessly
bravado Florida retaliating against that reckless CEO

No such law was passed. The law only limits talk to gender identity and sexual orientation.

 

[Married5Times]

everything has been wrong:

talking sex to my 5 year old in class
making a law to prohibit that talk
CEO opening his mouth recklessly
bravado Florida retaliating against that reckless CEO

and let's add another chronological line item:

severely mind impaired Chief adding fuel to the dumpster fire.

can't wait for the conservative response as I'm sure it will outdo Chief's

 

[Roy G. Dis]

Florida without tourism is just a hotter and swampier Mississippi. I hope Disney considers building a new theme park in a less politically turbulent part of the country. Let Floridians have their state.

 

[Married5Times]

No such law was passed. The law only limits talk to gender identity and sexual orientation.

semantics

and that too has no place near my kid in class

 

[Tha Realest]

semantics

and that too has no place near my kid in class

The Disney defenders want it both ways: they want the state to have complete autonomy over how, what, and when to introduce complex (and debated) gender and sexual issues to your children, but then take a hands off approach towards the basic governance affecting huge, multi billion dollar corporations.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

For anyone that still has a hard time with whats true and not true about taxes.. Reedy Creek.. etc.. heres a good article explaining exactly everything. Few things still not known of course like what will be done in the way of laws or new bills before june 2023.

Disney World Losing Its Special District Status Could Be ‘Catastrophic’ For Local Taxpayers

Orange County, Florida, taxpayers could see their property taxes go up by as much as 25%, while Disney would save $163 million per year.

www.forbes.com

 

[danlb_2000]

semantics

and that too has no place near my kid in class

I feel sorry for your children. If they turn out to not have well defined genders life will be hard for them. We should be looking at how to have more open discussion about gender identity instead of passing laws to restrict it.

 

[peter11435]

The property taxes that they pay now go to Reedy Creek. In the future they will go to Orange county so there is no change,

Why are you unable to absorb information when it is percented to you? They already pay property taxes to the counties. The taxes they pay to RCID are an additional tax. You can view exactly what taxes they pay, how much, and to who. This information is public record

 

[Lilofan]

Florida without tourism is just a hotter and swampier Mississippi. I hope Disney considers building a new theme park in a less politically turbulent part of the country. Let Floridians have their state.

Don’t think the locals in FL want to return to the backwoods environment pre Magic Kingdom. And one wants to aspire to be like another Mississippi, one of the poorest states in the country ?

 

[JusticeDisney]

The property taxes that they pay now go to Reedy Creek. In the future they will go to Orange county so there is no change,

You’re simply dead wrong.

 

[thomas998]

For anyone that still has a hard time with whats true and not true about taxes.. Reedy Creek.. etc.. heres a good article explaining exactly everything. Few things still not known of course like what will be done in the way of laws or new bills before june 2023.

Disney World Losing Its Special District Status Could Be ‘Catastrophic’ For Local Taxpayers

Orange County, Florida, taxpayers could see their property taxes go up by as much as 25%, while Disney would save $163 million per year.

www.forbes.com

Only problem is the article makes some sky is falling assumptions about what are unknowns. The biggest unknown is what will happen to the supposed 1 billion in debt that Reedy Creek apparently has. As nothing like this has ever happened in Florida before no one will have a clue what will actually be done to address it. It could go in many different ways, the worst case for the people of Florida would be for the debt to just be allocated to the counties that Reedy Creek falls in, the best would be for the state to enact a special tax area where property taxes in the former Reedy Creek area would be increased above the normal rate in the area temporarily to cover the debt that Reedy Creek had generated while in existence. But at this point I doubt the state has given much thought in how they will deal with the problems the change will create. They do have a little over 12 months to figure it out, but whether they will be able to come up with a solution that quickly is unknown.

 

[Thelazer]

The big question: Will Disney stiff Orange and Osceola counties with the $1 billion in debt that, with the removal of the special district, they no longer have to pay? Legislators, as usual, did not think this through. This is what happens when emotions and cultural revenge rule over sanity and logic.

I love it read the article "Could be" "Likely" "we simply do not know"
Fear mongering grade A from the mouse's PR dept (IE Slatnil)

 

[Roy G. Dis]

We have no way of knowing if the New York Yankees will beat a group of 8 year olds in a nine inning game of baseball so we shouldn't speculate as to the outcome until the game is over.

 

[SaucyBoy]

I was a staunch supporter of DeSantis and, as a gay teacher, even supported his bill. But this outrageous attack on Disney, a company I love and cherish, has really soured my love for him. His true colors were finally revealed. If I was still living in Florida, this stunt would cost him a vote from me. I'm not worried about what will happen to Disney, they will overcome like they always do. I just hope the citizens of Orange and Osceola county aren't impacted too much.

 

[Tha Realest]

I feel sorry for your children. If they turn out to not have well defined genders life will be hard for them. We should be looking at how to have more open discussion about gender identity instead of passing laws to restrict it.

Let’s make a few minor substitutions and see how this logic holds up:

“I feel sorry for children raised without being exposed to religion. If they turn out to not have well defined understanding of God life will be hard for them. We should be looking at how to have more open discussion about Creationism instead of passing laws to restrict it.”

 

[Imhere]

There is still a year for negotiation on this whole debacle.

I find it hard to believe a lawyer like Desantis simply didn't think about the effects of this decision. Though, there are plenty, I'm sure, that believe Desantis is just a moron in a clown suit stumbling around making willy nilly decisons at the drop of a hat.

I'm guessing the play he made could serve his purpose in a public relations sense, but, a year of negotiation could make the tax changes basically disappear into the vapor. Not sure if that makes me an optimist or a pessimist, lol....You know, politicians are involved.