News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[lazyboy97o]

It would just make more efficient sense and life saving if Reedy Creek responded to a Golden Oak incident. RC could be at Golden Oak within minutes.

Orange County Fire Rescue Station 36 is right outside Walt Disney World on County Road 535 and is closer than Reedy Creek Emergency Services Station 4.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Forgive the hyperbole, but a lot of the responses to this news (here and elsewhere) are solely focused on what a raw deal this (which isn't going to happen, anyway) would supposedly be for the people of Orange/Osceola counties and Florida as a whole. And maybe it would be! But a little more skepticism when it comes to corporate-government dealings is needed IMO. You see a lot of the same rhetoric when it comes time for taxpayers to foot the bill for a new sports stadium.

Besides, if people really wanted to punish Disney, they'd be pushing for copyright reform.

Because this isn’t a reaction to a perceived problem with the District.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The real threat to Disney with this, is the loss of control of zoning and land use. Disney pretty much can do anything it wants from Roads to building locations to reclaiming wetlands to utilities on its property. Loosing that would be a major blow.

When did Orange County hold the zoning meetings for any of the specific components of the Universal Orlando Resort South Campus?

 

[GimpYancIent]

Universal is not making waves! Disney is generating lots of negative waves! Universal is not going to interrupt Disney's absorbing all this attention.

Good business sense for Universal.

 

[KrzyKtty]

The real threat to Disney with this, is the loss of control of zoning and land use. Disney pretty much can do anything it wants from Roads to building locations to reclaiming wetlands to utilities on its property. Loosing that would be a major blow.

I thought wetlands are federally protected? I'm pretty sure even with their special district they wouldn't be able to reclaim wetlands Willy Nellie without some sort of oversight.

 

[Diamond Dot]

14 years ago I went back to college to do a course on Travel and Tourism and for my first big assignment I chose to do it on Walt Disney World. This is how I learned about Reedy Creek. It would absolutely be to the detriment of everyone for RC to dissolved, they have higher building standards than districts around them, so that safeguard would be gone, local taxpayers would now bear the costs and many are low paid workers in the hospitality sector, not just at Disney but, in the surrounding area.


I suppose I'll be in trouble for this post now.

Also, I learned Orlando was originally called Jernigan.

 

[thomas998]

Yes, it is county services. That’s why you see deputies at SeaWorld. I’m guessing you live in the northeast where counties are entirely incorporated. A lot of the country isn’t actually part of any town or city and is just the county, which out west become huge.

No the Southwest, even though their is lots of land outside of any city/town; the general way it works is anywhere you have large population centers they tend to be incorporated as cities or town. The country sherif might have a larger area that they cover than the city police but it is common for the area the sherif covers to have more cows that people living on it.

 

[Lilofan]

Orange County Fire Rescue Station 36 is right outside Walt Disney World on County Road 535 and is closer than Reedy Creek Emergency Services Station 4.

I have always admired the unique architecture of the Reedy Creek fire station across the street from Saratoga Springs. If Epcot had an incident , RC can be there within minutes since that fire rescue station is behind Germany and Italy.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I thought wetlands are federally protected? I'm pretty sure even with their special district they wouldn't be able to reclaim wetlands Willy Nellie without some sort of oversight.

Wetlands can have all sorts of overlapping jurisdictions. Even water management, the big reason behind the original Reedy Creek Drainage District and now also the Reedy Creek Improvement District, involves the South Florida Water Management District (which is how so many development plans get out).

It would absolutely be to the detriment of everyone for RC to dissolved, they have higher building standards than districts around them

The differences between the EPCOT Building Code and Florida Building Code are generally overstated.

 

[thomas998]

First off, I totally agree with your conclusion that it's not going to happen. It's an idle threat in the midst of a political back-and-forth. No way that the RCID gets dissolved. No matter how much DeSantis and others wants to rail against Disney, Florida needs Disney, and they are not going to go that far.

However, I would like to see your source for the claim that they have "stated flat-out" that it is due to "being against Disney's 'support' for LGBTQ+ people." I seriously doubt that anyone involved has phrased it that way. That may be your interpretation of it, but I don't think that's what they've "flat-out" said.

30 years ago the state and central Florida could have been held hostage by Disney's wishes... but today with Universal as large as it is, and with Disney already having hundreds of millions of investment in the park, Disney doesn't have as much power as they used to. Frankly now would be a good time for the state to eliminate the Reedy Creek area.... At the end of the day Disney would be upset but they aren't going to pull up stake and move the parks to any other state and they couldn't simply shut them down.

 

[Diamond Dot]

I have always admired the unique architecture of the Reedy Creek fire station across the street from Saratoga Springs. If Epcot had an incident , RC can be there within minutes since that fire rescue station is behind Germany and Italy.

I love going over the one by EPCOT on the Skyliner.

 

[monothingie]

When did Orange County hold the zoning meetings for any of the specific components of the Universal Orlando Resort South Campus?

Comcast seeks theme park zoning for huge parcel of land

Big plans could be in the making for a huge Universal Orlando expansion.

www.mynews13.com

Looks like May/June 2016.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Comcast seeks theme park zoning for huge parcel of land

Big plans could be in the making for a huge Universal Orlando expansion.

www.mynews13.com

Looks like May/June 2016.

That didn’t include specifics. The huge plot was zoned and Universal is rather free to develop it as they desire.

 

[Lilofan]

30 years ago the state and central Florida could have been held hostage by Disney's wishes... but today with Universal as large as it is, and with Disney already having hundreds of millions of investment in the park, Disney doesn't have as much power as they used to. Frankly now would be a good time for the state to eliminate the Reedy Creek area.... At the end of the day Disney would be upset but they aren't going to pull up stake and move the parks to any other state and they couldn't simply shut them down.

Whatever the case WDW does influence just one example - aka giving donations to select folks to ensure they get what they want ( ie no casinos near or on Disney turf ).

 

[lazyboy97o]

30 years ago the state and central Florida could have been held hostage by Disney's wishes... but today with Universal as large as it is, and with Disney already having hundreds of millions of investment in the park, Disney doesn't have as much power as they used to. Frankly now would be a good time for the state to eliminate the Reedy Creek area.... At the end of the day Disney would be upset but they aren't going to pull up stake and move the parks to any other state and they couldn't simply shut them down.

At the end of the day it would be dangerous retaliation politics in which we continue to normalize punitive legal action in response to unrelated activities and free speech.

 

[CastAStone]

I've seen it happen in the past.

It’s against the law in Florida and every state I’m aware of. You get unemployment for losing your job involuntary without cause and no other reasons.

 

[SirLink]

It doesn’t matter what Disney does. Government seeking to retaliate against private persons and entities should not be acceptable.

They are sanctioning Disney the same way the UK government did against Chelsea football club or banks. Its a normal process and remember no company is bigger than a government.

 

[correcaminos]

Mostly governments acting childish with punishing due to supoort shouldn’t be condoned.

 

[lazyboy97o]

They are sanctioning Disney the same way the UK government did against Chelsea football club or banks. Its a normal process and remember no company is bigger than a government.

It’s not a sanction. It’s the dissolution of a completely separate legal entity and not owned by Disney. Even then, sanctions aren’t for saying something some didn’t like and still have a specifically legal process behind their implementation. It’s not a quick process, the one initiated in response to the invasion of Ukraine were being meticulously prepared for months beforehand.

 

[mkt]

I'm sure Florida could increase the Sales tax or use another levy to make it extremely unattractive to visit Orlando to show them

Then Florida loses its bragging rights as a low tax state.

Any tax increase or new tax here is extremely unpopular from all sides. Just the possibility of that, no matter how outlandish or absurd, is enough to kill a political career here. And the last thing politicians want is to get a real job.