tissandtully
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I think this dude has 400,000 reasons
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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lazyboy97o
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Actual dissolution is something that would take years and actual planning. I don't think it's really a goal. It helps provide a rationalization for the state appointed board as they could be framed as a "temporary" step in the process of dissolution.
Disney Analyst
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What time should we expect Disney's response?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
In may
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
If Disney hasn’t provided it to the media then it should be on the county clerk’s website in the morning.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Gotta “send a message” to these arrogant young whippersnappers
Rhinocerous
Premium Member
Nobody is above the law.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Thoughts on Disney’s response to CFTOD
- Pages 1 - 25: ”The allegations in Parage [x] are legal arguments and conclusions to which no response is required; to the extent a response is required, Disney denies the allegations.” Over and over again.
- They bring up the issues of standing we have discussed here. How was the District injuries by not informing.
- Disney points out a few times that the District is trying to act on behalf of the municipalities without their consent or participation in the litigation.
- The District’s alleged failures are the District’s, not Disney’s.
- Disney argues this is unconstitutional under the Florida Constitution as it’s about Disney’s speech. This is part of Disney”s counterclaim that they are introducing to the litigation.
- You can’t sue over hypothetical bonds
- We’re past the statute of limitations for challenging the Comprehensive Plan
- Bobbie C is “Disney’s then-CEO”
- They accurately lay out the timeline to show how the District acted before the state, not after
- They point out how the District had basically concluded immediately that the agreements were void and then did the work to come to that pre-existing determination
- They note that the District is limited by law to how it can use land and to the fact that they lack an alternative development plan that contradicts the agreements. The board members have talked about affordable housing but they cannot legally pursue that at this time.
OvertheHorizon
Well-Known Member
Gotta love it when lawyers can use (sic) while quoting a document from the opposing side.
My favorite part:
CFTOD: We won't follow the contracts that the RCID entered into.
Disney: But, *you are* the RCID, just with a new name. It's *your* contracts. The legislature very specifically said that you are the RCID, but with a new name, and all the contracts you entered into as the RCID remain valid. You *are* the RCID. You can't sue yourself, thus, you have no standing to sue. So... stop hitting yourself.
CFTOD: We won't follow the contracts that the RCID entered into.
Disney: But, *you are* the RCID, just with a new name. It's *your* contracts. The legislature very specifically said that you are the RCID, but with a new name, and all the contracts you entered into as the RCID remain valid. You *are* the RCID. You can't sue yourself, thus, you have no standing to sue. So... stop hitting yourself.
An update on the ethics issue with Glen Gilzean from the Orlando Sentinel.
"Glen Gilzean cannot continue to serve as Florida’s ethics commission chairman and work as the administrator of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Disney World oversight district, according to a legal opinion released Thursday.
State law does not allow public employees to serve on the government watchdog panel, Steven Zuilkowski, the ethics commission’s general counsel, wrote in the analysis.
Gilzean, chairman of the ethics commission, was hired in May to lead the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District. He earns an annual salary of $400,000 as the district’s administrator.
“It appears that your position as district administrator for the district is public employment,” Zuilkowski concluded.
DeSantis first appointed Gilzean to the ethics commission in August 2019. His present term expires in June 2024. The nine members of the ethics panel, who do not draw a salary, are appointed by the governor and leaders of the Florida Senate and House.
Gilzean, a DeSantis ally, was named to the tourism district administrator post on May 10. The district’s five board members, who approved the hiring, are appointed by the governor.
Gilzean was not immediately available for comment."
DeSantis’ Disney chief can’t hold both posts, ethics lawyer says
Glen Gilzean cannot continue to serve as Florida’s ethics commission chairman and work as the administrator of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Disney World oversight district, according to a legal o…www.orlandosentinel.com
The statute is pretty clear on the Commission on Ethics. He can't fulfill both roles.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
“Alleged document”
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
Let's see... $0 or $400K/year . An easy choice.An update on the ethics issue with Glen Gilzean from the Orlando Sentinel.
"Glen Gilzean cannot continue to serve as Florida’s ethics commission chairman and work as the administrator of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Disney World oversight district, according to a legal opinion released Thursday.
State law does not allow public employees to serve on the government watchdog panel, Steven Zuilkowski, the ethics commission’s general counsel, wrote in the analysis.
Gilzean, chairman of the ethics commission, was hired in May to lead the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District. He earns an annual salary of $400,000 as the district’s administrator.
“It appears that your position as district administrator for the district is public employment,” Zuilkowski concluded.
DeSantis first appointed Gilzean to the ethics commission in August 2019. His present term expires in June 2024. The nine members of the ethics panel, who do not draw a salary, are appointed by the governor and leaders of the Florida Senate and House.
Gilzean, a DeSantis ally, was named to the tourism district administrator post on May 10. The district’s five board members, who approved the hiring, are appointed by the governor.
Gilzean was not immediately available for comment."
DeSantis’ Disney chief can’t hold both posts, ethics lawyer says
Glen Gilzean cannot continue to serve as Florida’s ethics commission chairman and work as the administrator of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Disney World oversight district, according to a legal o…
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
I love how the response I made that you replied to got deleted?
Glen Gilzean in the news again today.
"Instead of resigning, Glen Gilzean is questioning whether Florida’s ethics commission “weaponized” a memo that concluded he was ineligible to serve as both the state’s ethics chairman and administrator of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ tourism oversight district.
The opinion released on Thursday concluded that Gilzean couldn’t do both jobs because of a state law that bars ethics commissioners from holding public employment.
Gilzean earns a $400,000 annual salary as administrator of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District, the special district taxing that oversees Disney World’s government services. His position on the ethics panel is unpaid.
In an email Thursday afternoon, Gilzean wrote that he was “weighing” his options on how to proceed and then questioned the ethics commission’s timing in releasing the opinion. The Florida Bulldog first obtained the correspondence, which the ethics commission released Friday to the Orlando Sentinel in response to a public records request.
“It is deeply inappropriate that your legal opinion was disseminated to the press at the same time you sent it to me,” Gilzean wrote in the email to the commission’s general counsel and ethics director Kerrie Stillman. “As far as I’m concerned, someone on your staff knowingly leaked this memo and weaponized it, how did this happen?”
Stillman responded that the memo wasn’t leaked but produced in response to numerous public records requests.
“Producing it was my call and mine alone,” she wrote. “There was no ill intent and no weaponization of this situation by me or anyone else on staff.”
Gilzean also asked the ethics commission’s general counsel to review his employment contract with the tourism district and “propose specific changes that you believe would bring it into conformity with the relevant rules.”
“As you know, I am not a lawyer and believed my status at CFTOD was of no concern,” Gilzean wrote. “At the very least, I did not appreciate the nuanced factors that distinguish an employee and an independent contractor. Regardless, now that this has come to my attention, please rest assured that I am weighing my options and will take action before the Commission’s next meeting.”
The ethics commission next meets on Sept. 8. Gilzean hasn’t responded to phone messages and an email seeking comment.
Steven Zuilkowski, the commission’s general counsel, responded that he is not permitted to assist Gilzean with modifying his employment contract.
“I am the Commission’s lawyer, but no individual commissioner is my client. … I believe other legal advisors outside the Commission staff will be able to assist you in this regard,” he wrote."
Full article below.
www.orlandosentinel.com
"Instead of resigning, Glen Gilzean is questioning whether Florida’s ethics commission “weaponized” a memo that concluded he was ineligible to serve as both the state’s ethics chairman and administrator of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ tourism oversight district.
The opinion released on Thursday concluded that Gilzean couldn’t do both jobs because of a state law that bars ethics commissioners from holding public employment.
Gilzean earns a $400,000 annual salary as administrator of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District, the special district taxing that oversees Disney World’s government services. His position on the ethics panel is unpaid.
In an email Thursday afternoon, Gilzean wrote that he was “weighing” his options on how to proceed and then questioned the ethics commission’s timing in releasing the opinion. The Florida Bulldog first obtained the correspondence, which the ethics commission released Friday to the Orlando Sentinel in response to a public records request.
“It is deeply inappropriate that your legal opinion was disseminated to the press at the same time you sent it to me,” Gilzean wrote in the email to the commission’s general counsel and ethics director Kerrie Stillman. “As far as I’m concerned, someone on your staff knowingly leaked this memo and weaponized it, how did this happen?”
Stillman responded that the memo wasn’t leaked but produced in response to numerous public records requests.
“Producing it was my call and mine alone,” she wrote. “There was no ill intent and no weaponization of this situation by me or anyone else on staff.”
Gilzean also asked the ethics commission’s general counsel to review his employment contract with the tourism district and “propose specific changes that you believe would bring it into conformity with the relevant rules.”
“As you know, I am not a lawyer and believed my status at CFTOD was of no concern,” Gilzean wrote. “At the very least, I did not appreciate the nuanced factors that distinguish an employee and an independent contractor. Regardless, now that this has come to my attention, please rest assured that I am weighing my options and will take action before the Commission’s next meeting.”
The ethics commission next meets on Sept. 8. Gilzean hasn’t responded to phone messages and an email seeking comment.
Steven Zuilkowski, the commission’s general counsel, responded that he is not permitted to assist Gilzean with modifying his employment contract.
“I am the Commission’s lawyer, but no individual commissioner is my client. … I believe other legal advisors outside the Commission staff will be able to assist you in this regard,” he wrote."
Full article below.
DeSantis’ Disney chief suggests ethics commission ‘weaponized’ memo
Instead of resigning, Glen Gilzean is questioning whether Florida’s ethics commission “weaponized” a memo that said he was ineligible to serve as both the state’s ethics cha…
www.orlandosentinel.com
Glen Gilzean in the news again today.
"Instead of resigning, Glen Gilzean is questioning whether Florida’s ethics commission “weaponized” a memo that concluded he was ineligible to serve as both the state’s ethics chairman and administrator of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ tourism oversight district.
The opinion released on Thursday concluded that Gilzean couldn’t do both jobs because of a state law that bars ethics commissioners from holding public employment.
Gilzean earns a $400,000 annual salary as administrator of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District, the special district taxing that oversees Disney World’s government services. His position on the ethics panel is unpaid.
In an email Thursday afternoon, Gilzean wrote that he was “weighing” his options on how to proceed and then questioned the ethics commission’s timing in releasing the opinion. The Florida Bulldog first obtained the correspondence, which the ethics commission released Friday to the Orlando Sentinel in response to a public records request.
“It is deeply inappropriate that your legal opinion was disseminated to the press at the same time you sent it to me,” Gilzean wrote in the email to the commission’s general counsel and ethics director Kerrie Stillman. “As far as I’m concerned, someone on your staff knowingly leaked this memo and weaponized it, how did this happen?”
Stillman responded that the memo wasn’t leaked but produced in response to numerous public records requests.
“Producing it was my call and mine alone,” she wrote. “There was no ill intent and no weaponization of this situation by me or anyone else on staff.”
Gilzean also asked the ethics commission’s general counsel to review his employment contract with the tourism district and “propose specific changes that you believe would bring it into conformity with the relevant rules.”
“As you know, I am not a lawyer and believed my status at CFTOD was of no concern,” Gilzean wrote. “At the very least, I did not appreciate the nuanced factors that distinguish an employee and an independent contractor. Regardless, now that this has come to my attention, please rest assured that I am weighing my options and will take action before the Commission’s next meeting.”
The ethics commission next meets on Sept. 8. Gilzean hasn’t responded to phone messages and an email seeking comment.
Steven Zuilkowski, the commission’s general counsel, responded that he is not permitted to assist Gilzean with modifying his employment contract.
“I am the Commission’s lawyer, but no individual commissioner is my client. … I believe other legal advisors outside the Commission staff will be able to assist you in this regard,” he wrote."
Full article below.
DeSantis’ Disney chief suggests ethics commission ‘weaponized’ memo
Instead of resigning, Glen Gilzean is questioning whether Florida’s ethics commission “weaponized” a memo that said he was ineligible to serve as both the state’s ethics cha…
He just proved why he should NOT be on the Ethics Commission. FL sunshine statute is pretty clear about public access to governmental records. Perhaps he should quit both and go back to the private sector.
And that was an opinion from the Commission's legal counsel.
You know who would investigate him for violating state statue? The Ethics Commission.