RAW Image Data Converter help

fractal

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OK - I've taken a few shots in RAW ( for the first time ) and have uploaded them on the Processing software that came with the camera.

I am having "issues" when I go to make an adjustment. My computer starts to whirl like a helicopter and the adjustments are happening very, very, verrrry slow.

Is this normal? Should I get another software program or maybe do I need a new computer to process RAW images. I have plenty of memory on my PC but it is a couple of years old.

Any advise, feedback or thoughts would be appreciated.
 

ddbowdoin

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A lot of the camera software sucks balls...

You really can't go wrong with Lightroom, always running sales on it as well. I personally use Adobe Camera Raw (which basically comes built in with CS5).

For the longest time I had to use DNG converer in Adobe to open the files. My wife hooked me up with a few major OS upgrades (snow leopard and mountain lion) and now my rAW images open traitor Camera Raw without conversion.
 

Allen C

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I saw a few places where you could download sample RAW files from the Sony NEX7. They're about 24 - 25 MB each.

I had no problems editing the files in ACR/CS6. (Mac Book Pro with Core i7, Retina Display, and 8 GB RAM)

I tried my older MBP with a dual core Intel and 4 GB RAM. The editing process in ACR slowed down a bit but it was still pretty smooth sailing.

I agree with ddbowdoin. I would recommend LR4 over the software that came with your camera.
 

ddbowdoin

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I saw a few places where you could download sample RAW files from the Sony NEX7. They're about 24 - 25 MB each.

I had no problems editing the files in ACR/CS6. (Mac Book Pro with Core i7, Retina Display, and 8 GB RAM)

I tried my older MBP with a dual core Intel and 4 GB RAM. The editing process in ACR slowed down a bit but it was still pretty smooth sailing.

I agree with ddbowdoin. I would recommend LR4 over the software that came with your camera.

25MB RAW files from an NEX7? really... that is a lot bigger than I would have thought.
 

wiigirl

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Another vote for lightroom. Its cheap..runs great..and honestly I feel its the best program for Photographers out there (yes..even more so than aperture and even photoshop).

x2 for lightroom..
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Allen C

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does LR have "content aware fill"?

AFAIK it's only in PS CS5 and CS6. It's a nice tool to have. I've used it to remove Tinker Bell's zip line from some of my castle shots aside from other things such as strollers and trash cans.

For most editing requirements LR4 is adequate. If you need pixel level editing tools then you may want to look into PS CS5 or CS6.
 

ddbowdoin

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AFAIK it's only in PS CS5 and CS6. It's a nice tool to have. I've used it to remove Tinker Bell's zip line from some of my castle shots aside from other things.

For most editing requirements LR4 is adequate. If you need pixel level editing tools then you may want to look into PS CS5 or CS6.

I have CS5 and use that feature a lot for wedding work, I was simply curious about LR having it. I have a feeling the machine is going to die soon and I don't want to purchase CS6 for it.
 

WDI 1998

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I use Lightroom and find it to be great for processing my RAW shots. I used to shoot RAW + Fine but then changed to RAW only to save memory. I may go back to having both just for convenience of being able to preview my shots in Windows. Photoshop is great but a huge dollar investment and Lightroom costing far far less.
 

NowInc

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There is no content aware tool in LR..

BUT.on the bright side of the PhotoshopCS6 train...Photoshop is REALLY REALLY REALLY cheap now via the monthly subscription plan. I feel that if you do use it enough, its MORE than reasonable to get now. Also..LR and Photoshop work well together, as you can send processed RAWs from LR to Photoshop and do your more advanced edits if needed.
 

gsrjedi

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Another one for Lightroom here. Lightroom handles RAW files basically the same as Adobe Camera Raw that comes with Photoshop, but Lightroom is made for photographers and is also a way to organize your pictures and videos. The thing with Lightroom you have to remember is the changes you make only stay in Lightroom until you export them, but this means you never permanently alter an image since LR will keep a history of all your changes. I'm a big fan of Lightroom
 

wdwmagic

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Get yourself Photoshop, Lightroom or Aperture. Although any image editing software is going to need a reasonable amount of computer power, os if you are running an old machine, it is likely you will have problems running any of those. The disk thrashing sounds like you may be low on RAM.
 

fractal

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thanks everyone for your suggestions. I ended up buying Lightroom and spent much of my weekend screwing around on it. I also downloaded the trial Photomatix plugin and created my very first HDR photo. This is taken from the side of my house - didn't use a tripod, just had the camera on the railing of my side deck. It's 4 exposures...and leaves much room for improvement but I thought I would share.

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PhotoDave219

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I use Photoshop CS5. A lot of my photojournalist friends swear by Lightroom, I haven't tried and have years of custom built actions for specific looks (like the dave hill, dear sweet jesus that is insanely overprocessed with a high pass filter & desaturated look.... or creating a skin softening layer mask) or repetitive actions (rotate canvas .1 degrees, interpolating photos, etc) that I use a lot.

Photoshop elements or Lightroom is more than the average photographer on vacation or someone who photographs their kids would ever need. At most you'd be adjusting the levels, adding a little contrast, straightening the horizon, little basic adjustments. Most people arent doing what Alan is doing and removing trash cans or Prince Charming's Cable hookup. (Zip line? What is this "zip line"... TinkerBell flies, really!) Most are not going into selective color and poping the reds.

Also I am a big believer in shooting it right the first time, doing most of my tricks in-camera and throwing things at people who say "oh you can fix it in post" and rarely shooting in RAW. Jpeg large, for those wondering (RAW takes up too much space for my likings and I really hate converting it) unless the client specifically asks for it. (Please don't start a RAW debate, I'll simply show you negatives from my Holga while you type)

My workflow also involves ingesting the photos using Photo Mechanic with a boilerplate caption, time, date, place and basic keywords for archival purposes... ala "the Magic Kingdom at the Walt Disney World Resort on Sunday, December 16, 2012 in Lake Buena Vista, Fla." If you shoot a ton of photos, you want to do as much of the archival organization on the front end. (Nothing like trying to find a caption for a photo 15 minutes before a contest deadline)

Also .... as much as I hate the "green box mode" on modern DSLRs, they give beginners nice exposures. Otherwise, sunny f/16s always applies. (In bright sunlight, your exposure is 1/ISO at f/16)

Back to Steve's observation. You shouldn't need a new computer if its something you've bought in the past 3-5 years but you may need to expand the RAM in the computer and also be aware of what other programs are running in the background. (iTunes is a notorious resource hog as well as most Adobe programs) Short troubleshooting suggestion says to restart the computer, only run the RAW converter and see if it still is acting up. From there, defrag your hard drive if you're still having problems and try to remove any junk applications you'd have running.

Alas if money is no problem here, yes, drop 5 grand on a new mac tower, load out the RAM, get an insane display and the latest version of Photoshop.

Nothing worse then forgetting to restart the computer and photoshop takes forever when you have a 10 minute window to download, edit, caption and file 3 photos from the first half of XXXX sporting event.
 

Allen C

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Most people arent doing what Alan is doing and removing trash cans or Prince Charming's Cable hookup. (Zip line? What is this "zip line"... TinkerBell flies, really!)

I stand corrected.:D Tinker Bell does fly!

@fractal: I would consider PhotoDave219's suggestion of adding more RAM. Once you start doing HDR remember you'll have 3 or more bracketed files open simultaneously.

Nice job with your first HDR. Although it's a matter of personal taste, I would suggest playing around with the "Smoothness" settings in Photomatix to see if you can tone down the "noise" in the sky. (esp. Smooth Highlights)
 

fractal

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I ended up buying Photomatix Pro ( this photography hobby can get a bit expensive but I guess it beats a new sports car or girlfriend :) ). During lunch I went over to my church and took a few pics...

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