Question: I have one day at DisneyLand and...

hlwoodcock

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I was curious if it is possible/advisable to get a park hopper pass and go to both Disneyland and Cali. Adventure?

I am a D.W. regular, but this is my first time to D.L. so I would appreciate any adivce that more experienced people can give me.

Thanks in advance!
 

Monty

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hlwoodcock said:
I was curious if it is possible/advisable to get a park hopper pass and go to both Disneyland and Cali. Adventure?

I am a D.W. regular, but this is my first time to D.L. so I would appreciate any adivce that more experienced people can give me.

Thanks in advance!

You can. If you're only there for one day, it's likely well worth it. You'll be pretty tired if you manage to get to everything [actually, I'm not sure it's humanly possible :veryconfu], but you'll have had loads of fun :sohappy:.

If you're a regular at WDW, then try to hit the unique attractions first. Definately California Screamin' - of course, I'd end up there the whole day :lol:

Enjoy!
 

TP2000

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It's very possible to do. They sell One Day Park Hopper tickets at the ticket booths. They are currently $76 for an adult, versus $56 for a one-park one day ticket.

You'll want to plan your time wisely though, especially in DCA. Realize that many of DCA's signature D and E Ticket attractions can be found in WDW, just themed slightly differently. MuppetVision, It's Tough To Be A Bug, Tower of Terror, Soarin' and Grizzly River Run are all found in WDW Parks, although Grizzly is the most noticeably different from it's WDW cousin Kali River Rapids. California Screamin', Redwood Creek Challenge Trail, Disney Animation and Golden Dreams are about the only major DCA attractions you can't find in WDW. The rest of the Park can be enjoyed by simply taking 60 minutes to stroll through all of the areas and see the place. Don't forget to stop by for your free tortilla in the Pacific Wharf. :D

If you visit anytime after Christmas, you'll probably be able to do the new Monsters Inc. ride as it's widely rumored to soft open by the Christmas week.

When it's time to head back to Disneyland, there will be A LOT MORE rides and attractions that you won't ever find at WDW, and you should focus on those. E Tickets like Indiana Jones Adventure and Matterhorn Bobsleds are a must, plus unique Disneyland lands like Mickey's Toontown, New Orleans Square and Critter Country should be explored. Plus there are about a dozen C and D Ticket rides you don't have at WDW that are Disneyland classics, or are so different from WDW they'll be worth the trouble; Alice In Wonderland, Pinnochio's Daring Journey, Casey Jr. Circus Train, Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin, StorybookLand Canal Boats, Sailing Ship Columbia, Davy Crockett Canoes, Big Thunder Ranch, etc., etc.

And then there are the E Tickets that WDW has, but that you'll find dramatically different and often noticeably superior in Disneyland. Pirates of the Caribbean (15 minutes long instead of 8 minutes long), Haunted Mansion Holiday :xmas: , Small World Holiday :xmas: , Enchanted Tiki Room (1963's original show), Space Mountain, Jungle Cruise, Disneyland Railroad past Grand Canyon Diorama and Primeval World. If you have time, likely at the end of the night, stop by the Opera House for the big 50th exhibit and the very fine 50th film with Steve Martin and Donald Duck. About the only E Ticket that is clearly better in WDW is Splash Mountain. Disneyland's pacing and set design is rather frantic and frenzied compared to WDW's superior version, and the logs are inline seating rather than bench seats.

The fireworks aren't to be missed, and there's a couple decent parades at both Parks.

A one-day visit to both DCA and Disneyland is possible. But you'll need to plan your day out a bit to get the best bang for your 76 bucks.
 

hlwoodcock

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TP2000 - Thank you (and the others) very much for your detailed response! This is exactly what I was looking for! Whle I have your attention I have a couple more questions....

1. Would you suggest that I start in DCA or Disneyland?

2. Are the small theming differences you speak of cool enough that it would be worth trying to see many as possibile or do yout think my my time would be better spent elsewhere?

3. Do you know if there is an online guide similar to what you have written up (but in more detail) that I can download and follow to make the most of my visit?

Thank you again for taking the time to respond to my question... I have been to DW a fair amount and I am really looking forward to seeing DL and enjoying the differences!

All the best,
Lee
 

netenyahoo

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You may want to start at DL as it will be less crowded in the early morning and you could get on more rides. Small World Holiday doesn't have fastpass and can get crowded, so you may want to do that in the morning. DL may also open earlier than DCA depending on when you are going. You could park hop over to DCA in the early afternoon when it gets crowded and then go back to DL later as DL stays open later than DCA. As far as theming differences, the areas that are most different from areas at MK would be New Orleans Square and Toontown. Critter Country is great, but with your limited time it might be best to skip it or if you do ride the train you get a view of it and of the ending of Splash Mountain. Fantasyland has a different and in my opinion much better theme than MK's. Have a fun trip!
 

TP2000

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The reply to the first question depends on which day of the week you'll be going, and what time of year. Do you know the exact date you'll be there yet?

As for the second question, overall Disneyland has more eye candy and more little stuff that you have to get right up next to. Many people consider Disneyland more "charming" than WDW's Magic Kingdom, which is kind of a code word for "It's smaller, and sometimes downright tiny in comparison, but it's prettier". Areas like New Orleans Square need to be explored down every alley, courtyard, nook and cranny to really get it. Other areas like Critter Country and Fantasyland can be enjoyed simply by strolling through for a few minutes and thinking "This is nothing like WDW's version!". Realize that while Disneyland is physically much smaller than WDW's Magic Kingdom, it has a lot more rides and entertainment going on. Disneyland is literally packed to the gills with more rides than WDW's Magic Kingdom will likely ever have. And on any typical Saturday you'll have three parades, two Fantasmic!'s, a 20 minute fireworks show, dancing to bands in both Tomorrowland and Plaza Gardens, several stage shows throughout the day, and endless litttle performances around the park like Flag Retreat, Sword In The Stone, bands, singing groups, etc. Disneyland on a weekend is frenzied with activity, and it's all jammed into a relatively small space.

When it comes to DCA, that's a very different type of park. Someone from back East might be more comfortable with DCA than Westerners seem to be, because DCA is clearly a new park built in the WDW model with very wide walkways and every amenity designed in from the beginning by people who had become profesionals at building massive theme parks. There's not much detail to see at DCA after you walk through each area, the DCA detail work is bigger and designed to be more obvious, like it was designed to look good on a glossy postcard.

Disneyland has narrow winding walkways and little things tacked on during the 50's and 60's that were added just for fun on the spur of the moment, rather than designed on a computer in a cubicle somewhere. The petrified tree in Frontierland is there as a "gift" from Mrs. Disney because Walt tried to give it to her as an Anniversary Gift for her rose garden in 1957 and she thought it was hideously ugly and banished it to the park, which was likely Walt's plan all along. And there it sits to this day, along the river in Frontierland, with a brass plaque explaining it's official "gift" status from Mrs. Disney. The marble statues of the Seven Dwarfs and Snow White around Snow White's Wishing Well showed up at the Burbank Studios anonymously 45 years ago, crated and shipped from Italy. No one knew who they came from, or why they were sent, but they were beautifully crafted and of expensive Italian marble, so Walt had a little waterfall built next to the Castle and they were installed there. They aren't really to scale, and it's not anything anyone would have ever built purposely when designing a theme park, but there they are and it's one of the most romantic corners of the park. It does a little show every few minutes, with Snow White singing "I'm Wishing For The One I Love" with her echo from the well, and marble fish jumping out of the water and a corny little 1960's water fountain goes off. Endless marriage proposals by Southern Californians have been made there over the decades, and I've walked past many young men down on one knee in front of their dates with a new ring in their hand on a Friday night there. Disneyland is just full of little stuff like that, and it's what give it it's unique character.

There are lots of great Disneyland fan websites. Disneyland has a rabid following of fans amongst the 30 Million Southern Californians who visit the place regularly. Try Laughingplace, Mouseinfo, Mouseplanet, Miceage or VisionsFantastic for lots of excellent pictorial guides and online information about every attraction, show, land and offering at Disneyland. The message boards on those sites are also a good place to look, but be prepared for online communities that are extremely passionate about Disneyland, unlike the more laid back attitude Easterners have towards WDW.

You might also want to thumb through Birnbaum's Official Guide To Disneyland, or any of the other unofficial guidebooks available at your local Border's or Barnes & Noble.

What day are you planning to visit Anaheim?
 

hlwoodcock

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Hi again TP2000. Thank you once again for the fantastic information!!!! That is the kind of stuff that is not the same if you get it from Barnes and Noble!

Anayway, I will be there on Thurs. Dec. 22nd... Being so close to Christmas may make things a bit more crowded, but hopefully I can still get through most of the major attractions and take in some of that charm that you speak so highly of.

I will check out the other websites that you mention, and will try to look through some of the (un)official guides.

In your opinion, can you give me a percentage on how much you think I will be able to see/do in 1 day at D.L./D.C.A.? I am sold on getting the park hopper and trying to do as much as possible but I am just curious to your opinion b/c you really seem like and expert on DL/DCA!

Thanks again!!!!
 

TP2000

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hlwoodcock said:
Hi again TP2000. Thank you once again for the fantastic information!!!! That is the kind of stuff that is not the same if you get it from Barnes and Noble!...

In your opinion, can you give me a percentage on how much you think I will be able to see/do in 1 day at D.L./D.C.A.? I am sold on getting the park hopper and trying to do as much as possible but I am just curious to your opinion b/c you really seem like and expert on DL/DCA!

Thanks again!!!!

Gosh, I got caught up in the Christmas rush and didn't check back on this thread. Let's see, taking into account the recent developments with the crowds at Disneyland and the recent turnstile closings, etc., here's my advice to you. Ready?...

Hopefully you will be able to have a full day for both parks. On 12/22 Disneyland is open from 8am to Midnight, and DCA is open from 10am to 10pm. If you can get to Disneyland before 10am, I highly recommend it. Head in to Disneyland first thing, hopefully sometime between 8am and 10am. Grab a Fastpass for Space Mountain first, whatever you do. Your next Fastpass priority is getting one from Indiana Jones. If you've been able to get there early and the Indy Standby line is 25 minutes or less, go ahead and do Standby as the interior queue for Indy is one of Disney's best and there is plenty to keep you entertained in line. If you can get those two Fastpasses secured for Disneyland, you'll really be in good shape. And remember, they will ALWAYS take your Fastpass at any time after your hour window, but they'll never take it early. You can show up 6 hours late with your Fastpass, and they'll still let you use it. So once you've got a Fastpass for Space and Indy, just tuck them away and use them any time after the entry time arrives as it fits your schedule.

If it's still before 10am and you've got Space and Indy taken care of, head over to the west side of the Park and do the following; Haunted Mansion Holiday, Pirates of the Caribbean, Big Thunder Mountain and/or Jungle Cruise. I would really skip Splash Mountain; it's cold this time of year, it's about the only Disneyland E Tickets inferior to the WDW version, and it's a waste of Fastpass and your time with your limited schedule. You should walk back to Critter Country just to see it, and the wait for Winnie The Pooh is rarely more than 15 minutes. The Canoes are also back there, and they are open from 11am to dusk this time of year.

Now assuming it's 11am or so, it's time to head over to DCA as the crowds in Disneyland will be getting bigger by the minute. Here's where it gets tricky, as they've been closing the Disneyland turnstiles around 1pm for several days in the last week or two. When they close the turnstiles, they first block people with one day tickets from entering Disneyland, but they can also block out park hoppers and Annual Passholders if Disneyland gets super, super crowded. 12/22 may be one of those days, and you are just going to have to gamble that you can get back in to Disneyland later in the afternoon.

The goals for DCA are doing California Screamin' and walking the park to get the feel for it. Head directly back to Screamin' and see what the Standby line versus Fastpass return time is. If the line is more than 25 minutes, probably get a Fastpass. Soarin' Over California is identical at Epcot, with the exception of the exterior of the building and parts of the queue. Tower of Terror is noticeably different from WDW, and you might want to head over and do that on Standby while you wait for your Screamin' Fastpass. Tower rarely has more than a 30 minute Standby wait, so you probably don't need Fastpass. Other goals for DCA, aside from walking the park in one full circle, would be poking in to Disney Animation in Hollywood just to see the lobby and any of the shows that might interest you in there. Also, a breeze through Redwood Creek Challenge Trail and the Pacific Wharf area with the tortilla and sourdough bread factories (free samples!). It's Tough To Be a Bug and MuppetVision are WDW clones, but a stroll through Flik's Fun Fair would the worthwhile just to get the vibe and see the kiddy rides running.

My only other suggestions for DCA would be doing the Sun Wheel (outstanding views if the weather is clear, the stationary gondolas have the best views and often have a shorter wait by following the signs through the exit); and maybe seeing Golden Dreams if you are a history buff. Don't expect an American Adventure type show, it's just a film, but it's days are rumored to be numbered in it's current form and it might be worth it for Disney posterity.

Now this is when the gambling comes in. It will likely be mid afternoon by this point, and it's time for you to try and get back in to Disneyland. Hopefully the turnstiles will still be open for park hopper tickets, and they'll let you back in. If they have closed Disneyland to all types of tickets, you can do two things; head back to DCA, or walk the rest of the Resort. Disneyland Resort is similar in size and scope to Universal Orlando, with two parks, three hotels and an entertainment mall. You can walk through Downtown Disney directly adjacent to the Disneyland/DCA entrance and head towards the Disneyland Hotel. Walk the Disneyland Hotel grounds and take in it's unthemed, 1960's vibe with a bizarre late 20th century Disneyfied overlay to it, and then walk across the street and through the Grand Californian lobby and grounds. The Grand is more like the big WDW hotels. The Grand is also very nicely decorated for Christmas, and has a nice cocktail lounge adjacent to the Napa Rose Restaurant with a view into DCA and Grizzly River Run. Or you can explore DCA some more, wait for the 5:15pm Block Party Bash or try one of the later showings of Alladin in DCA's Hyperion Theater, which is about the best stage show Disney offers in North America.

But ultimately the goal is to get you back to Disneyland, and hopefully the crowd gods will be good to you on the 22nd. Realize they often only keep the turnstiles closed for a couple hours at a time, and then reopen them for a couple hours. It's something that just happens, and the CM's unfortunately don't have much info to offer as to when that will happen. But once you do get back in to Disneyland by early evening, there are a couple of priorities for you; the fireworks, Fantasmic!, and few more rides. There's the 7:45pm Christmas parade, but I wouldn't waste too much time trying to see that unless you really are a parade buff. During the 7:45pm parade, that's a good time to try a couple of the Fantasyland rides like Peter Pan (better than WDW's), Mr. Toad's Wild Ride (the only one left), Casey Jr. Circus Train (with a great view of the StorybookLand Canal Boat ride), and Matterhorn Bobsleds (the line starts on the Tomorrowland side of the mountain, and is short during the parade. Be sure you go on the "left" or Tomorrowland track, as it's the most thrilling). And of course there's Alice In Wonderland and Pinnochio, two dark rides that WDW doesn't have. Alice is better, but remember that all of these Fantasyland dark rides close for 90 minutes during fireworks time, from roughly 8:30pm until about 10:00pm. The evening is also a good time to go on Small World, as the lights are amazing and every 15 minutes it does it's usual clock show and an extra Chrismtas light show that is fantastic. Don't miss it!

Toontown closes at 8:30pm for the fireworks and doesn't reopen, so around 8:00pm when the parade is going is a good time to swoop in to a relatively empty Toontown and ride Roger Rabbit without having to worry about Fastpass.

After the parade, it's time to stake out a claim for the fireworks. You can either head to the top of Main Street near the Kodak store (my personal favorite), or try to score one of the last few areas up closer to the Castle. When the fireworks end around 9:45pm and the snow is done, head directly into Frontierland and towards the 10:30pm Fantasmic!. Walk past the "center stage" part of Tom Sawyer's Island, and towards the Haunted Mansion. As the riverbanks rise quickly in that area, it will be easy to find a place to stand in one of the designated areas. I like to be just slightly left of center stage, past Pirates of the Caribbean. Fantasmic! at Disneyland is simply wonderful, and without ruining the surprises it has much "grander" moments than it's WDW cousin.

After Fantasmic!, if you still have energy, you can catch anything you've missed like the Tiki Room or some of the Fantasyland dark rides. You could also take this time to ride the Disneyland Railroad around the park, do Buzz Lightyear, or head down and catch the 50th Anniversary show and exhibit in the Opera House on the way out of the park. Main Street will stay open until 1:00am for shopping.
 

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