Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Originally posted by DMC-12
a red headed step child...lol
a Ginga!! does it smell of wee?
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Project: Gemini Put On Hold
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a Ginga!! does it smell of wee?
Pioneer Hall
Well-Known Member
I have a feeling that the park icon won't be neglected. Remember more people pass through spaceship earth that any other attraction in the world. They wouldn't negelect it when they know it leaves that big of an impression on a guest. I would agree if it was another pavilion (like you said Horizons and Living Seas) but not the centerpiece of the park and in some eyes the centerpiece of Walt Disney World.
hoodornament
New Member
Thank god
If Gemini is anything like what is portrayed some earlier posts, good riddance to it not getting funded. Replacing the Living Seas, Land with what would be equal to cartoon characters? I always saw Epcot as a nice escape from the sometimes corny and juvenileDisney MK concepts. Lets keep Epcot as a gateway into the future and a place to reflect and dream of what could be, and not try to trivialize it. No offense to the MK and other parks, they are great and unique, but so is Epcot, lets improve with new and updated attractions but keep the original theming and ideas as opened in the early 1980s ....
If Gemini is anything like what is portrayed some earlier posts, good riddance to it not getting funded. Replacing the Living Seas, Land with what would be equal to cartoon characters? I always saw Epcot as a nice escape from the sometimes corny and juvenileDisney MK concepts. Lets keep Epcot as a gateway into the future and a place to reflect and dream of what could be, and not try to trivialize it. No offense to the MK and other parks, they are great and unique, but so is Epcot, lets improve with new and updated attractions but keep the original theming and ideas as opened in the early 1980s ....
Disneynutcase
New Member
This Mouseinfo.com Marcie chick is full of crap. She offers no valid evidence of anything and doesn't seem to use much common sense with a lot of anything she says.
C'mon, most of us are on these boards because we've been going to Disney parks for years. And there are two huge facts that these Marcie articles constantly overlook.
1) Disney always adds new attractions to parks on both coasts EVERY year. Some years it's just Dinorama and Flick's Fun Fair. Other years it ToT and Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin. Truth is, other than the new ToT for DCA, nothing has been announced as a new attraction beyond 2003, but trust me all of you "Ye's of Little Faith" more rides and significant attractions will be coming to both coasts for 2004-05. And they won't be just new parades and shows.
Which brings me to point number...
2) Sorry to say it (especially to Grizzlyhall), but if a corporation like Microsoft (or any other major player out there) wanted to sponsor an attraction at Epcot, then I'll bet big $$$ that we'll probably be getting a new attraction. Project Gemini might be moot, but the Time Racers rumor still has merit being that SSE needs a sponsor and that Epcot will eventually need another new attraction (at least once M:S's newness wears off). And if Microsoft was to come in, then more than likely Time Racers will be it.
I say that by this summer we'll all be discussing and/or moaning about the next new officially announced attractions.
In fact, all Marcie said (for nine friggin' pages) was that Disney hasn't made any official decisions yet. Like most of us don't know that already...
C'mon, most of us are on these boards because we've been going to Disney parks for years. And there are two huge facts that these Marcie articles constantly overlook.
1) Disney always adds new attractions to parks on both coasts EVERY year. Some years it's just Dinorama and Flick's Fun Fair. Other years it ToT and Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin. Truth is, other than the new ToT for DCA, nothing has been announced as a new attraction beyond 2003, but trust me all of you "Ye's of Little Faith" more rides and significant attractions will be coming to both coasts for 2004-05. And they won't be just new parades and shows.
Which brings me to point number...
2) Sorry to say it (especially to Grizzlyhall), but if a corporation like Microsoft (or any other major player out there) wanted to sponsor an attraction at Epcot, then I'll bet big $$$ that we'll probably be getting a new attraction. Project Gemini might be moot, but the Time Racers rumor still has merit being that SSE needs a sponsor and that Epcot will eventually need another new attraction (at least once M:S's newness wears off). And if Microsoft was to come in, then more than likely Time Racers will be it.
I say that by this summer we'll all be discussing and/or moaning about the next new officially announced attractions.
In fact, all Marcie said (for nine friggin' pages) was that Disney hasn't made any official decisions yet. Like most of us don't know that already...
CAPTAIN HOOK
Well-Known Member
Don't hold your breath waiting for Microsoft...................
bkgrim
Member
I am a newbee to this site.
As a frequent Disney person... You must understand, Disney is still a major company. They know what that must do to continue to get people to visit and spend money.
SpaceShip Earth has technology problems. Every night, the lights go on and the welders go to it. They are not sure how long they can keep this ride running with the temp. fixes. It is a welding nightmare.
They will not let this run down.
Mr E came to Disney, helped to continue major building at the World. When he is replaced, Disney knows they must address the parks, ABC, and everything else they own.
This past Christmas trip showed us that Disney is trying. We spent 12 days there and only found one negative disney person.
(A CM in MGM New York street)
Everything was up and running, clean (Better then I have ever seen it) and ready to go.
As a frequent Disney person... You must understand, Disney is still a major company. They know what that must do to continue to get people to visit and spend money.
SpaceShip Earth has technology problems. Every night, the lights go on and the welders go to it. They are not sure how long they can keep this ride running with the temp. fixes. It is a welding nightmare.
They will not let this run down.
Mr E came to Disney, helped to continue major building at the World. When he is replaced, Disney knows they must address the parks, ABC, and everything else they own.
This past Christmas trip showed us that Disney is trying. We spent 12 days there and only found one negative disney person.
(A CM in MGM New York street)
Everything was up and running, clean (Better then I have ever seen it) and ready to go.
BRER STITCH
Well-Known Member
Perhaps this post is not directly related to this topic as it began, but I wanted to share this thought that occurred to me as I was reading the new posts.......
Somebody at Disney is responsible for getting sponsors for the Park attractions.
Hopefully they are as creative as the Imagineering folks are, though I am quite sure they are in the Sales Department somewhere.....
For example, I hope they have approached companies like SWATCH or Bulova, etc. to buy advertising on Time Racers. Both are companies that survive by selling TIME pieces. (Get the idea???) Then.....it could develop further.........
The SWATCH Company, in particular, would fit into the Park in the International sense, and could even lead to discussions of Switzerland becoming a reality in World Showcase, etc.......
(Before everyone attacks this post, please understand that it is just an example of the creative thinking so many companies lack these days. I run into this all the time in my job.)
It's not that Disney NEEDS a sponsor to make a ride happen, it's just that it's such a lucrative deal for both parties that it SHOULD happen. Financially, it's a good move.
There....not only did I post in the wrong category yesterday, but I sense that I have now contributed to chronic thread drift .....or was that a SNOW drift I hit?!?!?!?
Maybe I need another cup of coffee..........
I think this could only bea good thing. looks like the next year or so focus will be on Disneyland for the 50th. This is good because I hear Disneyland was in more need of repair and new attractions then any disneyworld themepark.. also I don't think the name "project gemeni" was recieved that well because I think everyone though tthey were going to split epcot into 2 parks. This will allow disney to focus on Disneyland for the 50th and after that redo project gemeniand bring it backunder a diffrent more Politically corret name. Looks like disney is finially understanding that the parks need attention, and NEW innovative rides that are not rollercoasters.
Tim G
Well-Known Member
Originally posted by BRER STITCH
Somebody at Disney is responsible for getting sponsors for the Park attractions.
Hopefully they are as creative as the Imagineering folks are, though I am quite sure they are in the Sales Department somewhere.....
For example, I hope they have approached companies like SWATCH or Bulova, etc. to buy advertising on Time Racers. Both are companies that survive by selling TIME pieces. (Get the idea???) Then.....it could develop further.........
The SWATCH Company, in particular, would fit into the Park in the International sense, and could even lead to discussions of Switzerland becoming a reality in World Showcase, etc.......
They always try to get US sponsorship first...
"The Mouse" has a whole lot of creative people on board, but I know the feeling
It's a marketing thing...
Have one on me !!!
Maybe I need another cup of coffee..........
dreamer
New Member
I like this "no BS" review of the article so I can skip the link and spend my time on the confusion generated by this thread itself.
I want Time Racers, but a delay will allow me to ride SE one more time and determine whether it is as uninspiring as I recall -- maybe my expectations were just too high at the time. Then I can add another meaningless, ignorant opinion to the thread.
by the way, I love the meaningless, ignorant opinions on WDWMagic. I came for some info, but stayed for all the wonderful hot air. We can all just go on and on and on about things we really know nothing about and pretend it matters.
....deciding whether to hit "submit"....
:veryconfu :xmas:
Disneynutcase
New Member
Gee, Dreamer...
Please don't insult us.
I mean for an individual who has posted 425+ times on this board, to have you complain about "hot air" and "ignorant opinions" like you just did makes the rest of us have to wonder what's up with this sudden BS from you.
Then again, maybe you've been flamed 422 times for making rude and unneccesary comments. Best advice I can give you is that if you don't enjoy what is written, then please stop coming back again and again and again.
But I like that you liked my reviews of Marcie's factless columns. And I'm glad that I inspired someone to not bother wasting their time reading her load of bunk.
Have a nice(r) day!
Please don't insult us.
I mean for an individual who has posted 425+ times on this board, to have you complain about "hot air" and "ignorant opinions" like you just did makes the rest of us have to wonder what's up with this sudden BS from you.
Then again, maybe you've been flamed 422 times for making rude and unneccesary comments. Best advice I can give you is that if you don't enjoy what is written, then please stop coming back again and again and again.
But I like that you liked my reviews of Marcie's factless columns. And I'm glad that I inspired someone to not bother wasting their time reading her load of bunk.
Have a nice(r) day!
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
If its not open then the park has no income. Ok it may also reduce its outgoings by only having a basic staff, but multi million pound rides still need to be paid for. Also what UK park has anything like the merchandise that Disney has?
Sponsors is more to do with Disney margins than neccesity.
tenchu
Well-Known Member
I agree, but i would be interested to see what would happen if disney went seasonal.
Would the people who would otherwise go during 'off season' make an appearance when open, or would these customers be lost?
Perhaps channelling all customers in during the one time, and cutting costs the rest of the time could come out better in the end?
Sponsorship is beginning to come to british parks too though. I believe 'Air' at Alton Towers has a sponsorship deal with Nestle.
Testtrack321
Well-Known Member
Yet who was the person who said they liked the idea of replacing UoE with a Monsters Inc ride Grizz?
Hmmmm?
Hmmmm?
ToTallToSlow112
Member
Epcot's Pavillions need a sprucing up before attractions. Epcot is suposed to showcase things to come well those things to come are becoming everyday things and we need new activities in the pavillions that are more technologicaly advanced.
For the past few years, I have had a lot of fun pondering what Disney will do next for their theme parks. I kept thinking of way they coudl improve Epcot, MGM, AK, MK......and I am getting a little tired of just thinking about it.
I dont care where this money goes. It can go to ANY of the parks, as long as it is used wisely. I look at MK, and I see a need for new/updated attractions. CoP and Timekeeper sit empty for months and months. Old, classic rides like Mansion, PotC, Peter pan, Snow White, Jungle Cruise, Swiss Family Treehouse are still waiting for some sprucing up with new technologies. I compare the whole place to Disneyland ever since I went there, and I defenetly would prefer Disneyland to MK. Better Toontown, better PotC, better mansion (wish they coudl leave the Holiday version up year round), better IASW, Indiana Jones Ride, Roger Rabbit Ride, tons of other Fantasyland rides, and although Tomorrowland is in need of an update, its biggest rides, Space Mt, HISTA, and Star Tours, are being considered the better E-Tickets over at WDW, only in seperate parks. MK could use the money.....
The complaints for changing Epcot are very apparent nowadays, and it seems that with all the money going to M:S, the rest of the park has been put on hold update-wise. I'd say every pavillion but Test Track (and M:S) could use an update right now. Epcot could use the money.....
MGM has 2 big E-Tickets, but the rest of the park relies mainly on sit down shows for entertainment. This is my favorite park, but it is capable of so much more than it is providing right now. MGM could use the money...
And then there's AK, which, ever since it opened, peope have been begging for "More attractions!" With the beastly kingdom rumors around for the past few years, I think the Imagineers are a bit anxious to add some stuff to the park, so I think AK could use the money........
I just had to get that all out.
Sorry for repeating what you probably already know :lol:
I dont care where this money goes. It can go to ANY of the parks, as long as it is used wisely. I look at MK, and I see a need for new/updated attractions. CoP and Timekeeper sit empty for months and months. Old, classic rides like Mansion, PotC, Peter pan, Snow White, Jungle Cruise, Swiss Family Treehouse are still waiting for some sprucing up with new technologies. I compare the whole place to Disneyland ever since I went there, and I defenetly would prefer Disneyland to MK. Better Toontown, better PotC, better mansion (wish they coudl leave the Holiday version up year round), better IASW, Indiana Jones Ride, Roger Rabbit Ride, tons of other Fantasyland rides, and although Tomorrowland is in need of an update, its biggest rides, Space Mt, HISTA, and Star Tours, are being considered the better E-Tickets over at WDW, only in seperate parks. MK could use the money.....
The complaints for changing Epcot are very apparent nowadays, and it seems that with all the money going to M:S, the rest of the park has been put on hold update-wise. I'd say every pavillion but Test Track (and M:S) could use an update right now. Epcot could use the money.....
MGM has 2 big E-Tickets, but the rest of the park relies mainly on sit down shows for entertainment. This is my favorite park, but it is capable of so much more than it is providing right now. MGM could use the money...
And then there's AK, which, ever since it opened, peope have been begging for "More attractions!" With the beastly kingdom rumors around for the past few years, I think the Imagineers are a bit anxious to add some stuff to the park, so I think AK could use the money........
I just had to get that all out.
Sorry for repeating what you probably already know :lol: