has anyone noticed that this years candle light dinner packages are now 2 dining credits? kinda odd since the restaurants you can choose from are only one credit each and the processional itself is free. wait, I know, someone tell me how it's going to make the guest experience better
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processional dinner packages now 2 credits
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It is going to make the guest experience better.
I hate to keep people waiting.
I hate to keep people waiting.
I appreciate your promptness richard, but please share your wisdom with me. how do you think it will improve another guests experience.
RiversideBunny
New Member
Maybe you have to think of it as buying Priortiy Seating with your extra dining credit.
excellent point about allowing more standby people to enter, although when we went a copule years ago we had the package and still waited 45 minutes. maybe disney is just hoping people with the dining plan can't perform basic math?
Maybe you have to think of it as buying Priortiy Seating with your extra dining credit.
ok fair enough, just be sure you don't get a slow waitress as the seats you're "buying" with your dining credit will be opened up to all guests 15 minutes prior to the show opening.
wonder what's next, extra credit for choice seats at a restaurant? those seats next to the aquarium at coral reef or the window seats that face wishes from Ohana' should fetch a hefty price tag.
RiversideBunny
New Member
They have that Tier thing with the restaurants for CP package.
The cash prices for the meals vary with the Tier.
So maybe they started thinking that guests who eat at the highest Tier on the DP are getting a bargain over those who eat at the lower Tier restaurants?
For the 5pm CP performance, they had guests actually eating lunch, not dinner, at the restaurants, like around 2 pm or so.
The cash price for lunch is lower than the cash price for dinner, so a guest using the DP for the 5pm CP performance isn't getting the same value as a guest going to the later performances and thus eating dinner.
It's like doing Boolean algebra to figure it out.
The cash prices for the meals vary with the Tier.
So maybe they started thinking that guests who eat at the highest Tier on the DP are getting a bargain over those who eat at the lower Tier restaurants?
For the 5pm CP performance, they had guests actually eating lunch, not dinner, at the restaurants, like around 2 pm or so.
The cash price for lunch is lower than the cash price for dinner, so a guest using the DP for the 5pm CP performance isn't getting the same value as a guest going to the later performances and thus eating dinner.
It's like doing Boolean algebra to figure it out.
luvlifeinfl
New Member
When I called to do my ADR, I requested to dine at Garden Grill on the 11/27, we were given a 5pm seating & stated that this would be 2 DDP, I asked why and she said becasue if the CP, I told her we did not want to do the CP and did not want to use 2 DDP, I also said that I thought the the CP was on the 28th.
Well our seating was moved to 5:15, so do not know what the difference is:shrug:.
Well our seating was moved to 5:15, so do not know what the difference is:shrug:.
disneydata
Well-Known Member
When I pay without the dining plan, why should I pay more for the dinner package when someone on the dining plan is paying the same price? I don't think that's very fair. This evens the playing field. The priority seating is not free.
from what I can tell here, priority seating is free if the allotted number of seats aren't filled from the packages.
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Is there a charge to see the Candlelight Processional? [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]No, it is included in your admission to Epcot. There is, however, a dinner package available for purchase that includes a ticket to Reserved Seating for the Candlelight Processional.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Seating without the dinner package is on a first come, first serve basis for each show. Folks line up 45 minutes (longer as you are closer to Christmas) before show time. 15 minutes prior to the show, seating is then opened up to those on line.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Seating without the dinner package is on a first come, first serve basis for each show. Folks line up 45 minutes (longer as you are closer to Christmas) before show time. 15 minutes prior to the show, seating is then opened up to those on line.[/FONT]
WDWFigment
Well-Known Member
Why shouldn't it cost two? We paid out-of-pocket for Garden Grill last November, and it was more expensive. Services and experiences at Disney operate, largely, within a market economy. Is it worth the extra credit or extra money to not have to stand in line 3-5 hours for the show? Personally, I think three hours of my time at WDW is worth much more than the $15 or so extra per person that the package cost us.
PrincessBitty
New Member
I didn't think 2TS was such a big deal - any of the dinner shows (Aloha, HDDR) are 2TS and CP is the same thing - food & a show.
It was a joke.
This is simply supply and demand. Demand is high supply is low that dictates that prices go up. The CP dinner has always been slightly more expensive than a standard dinner and for good reason....you get dinner and guaranteed seating for a show. Personally, I would have preferred them simply not allowing you to get it with the dining plan as I believe that the 2 TS credits for the lowest tier restaurant is a tad excessive.
A few years ago you could wait in the standby line and feel pretty confident that you could get a seat. That has not been the case for quite some time. Getting the CP dining package is as necessary to get a seat at the CP as an ADR is for eating at a TS resturant.
disneydata
Well-Known Member
That's just it - if they're not filled. They usually are. They fill in the front sections with the reserved dinner package guests and at 15 mins to showtime, general seating is started. I don't remember one show that I saw last year that the reserved seating wasn't just about filled before they opened it up. Remember - there is a line for the reserved seating as well and some people line up there 30-60 mins to get a great seat.
What I'm saying is why should I - a paying guest - pay more than another guest just because they're on the dining plan? That is not specifically included in their plan. This takes that question away by charging two table service entitlements.
I don't believe it should cost 2 credits as none of the restaurants included in the processional are 2 credits by themselves. even worse, the tiers themselves are price drastically different, yet they get a blanket 2 credit charge across the board.
if it's about saving time that's cool, but then fastpasses and online check-in should also carry a charge. soarin' is included in your epcot ticket, but if you don't feel like waiting, just flash the cm a $20 right?
if it's about the view or the wonderful seat, then the seats next to the aquarium at coral should be more.
at least with the fantasmic dinner package the single dinner credit restaurants are still one credit and brown derby which always counts as 2 credits anyways is still 2 credits.
gettingsmaller
New Member
I think two creds is excessive.
One cred seemed quite the bargain last year (was one cred for meal at GG and Le Cellier).
How about this: do away with the CP Dinner package, make it all standby.
Maybe the real deal is that WDW has once again offered free dining during that time, and this is a good way for them to "take back" some of those TS credits...
One cred seemed quite the bargain last year (was one cred for meal at GG and Le Cellier).
How about this: do away with the CP Dinner package, make it all standby.
Maybe the real deal is that WDW has once again offered free dining during that time, and this is a good way for them to "take back" some of those TS credits...
disneydata
Well-Known Member
So why should it cost me more for a dinner package and you cost less for the same on the dining plan?