Problem - Guests on SSR busses from theme parks to DTD

[DVCOwner]

Very true. Also "owning" DVC membership doesn't mean that you "own" any property at all. You just own the privilege of staying at a DVC resort.

This is not true. As stated in all DVC ads, you when buying into DVC you buy an ownership in a timeshare, you pay property taxes on the share that you own, and the property is deeded to you. You are not buying privilege of staying at a DVC resort, you are an owner of a timeshare.

 

[Murphketeer]

This is not true. As stated in all DVC ads, you when buying into DVC you buy an ownership in a timeshare, you pay property taxes on the share that you own, and the property is deeded to you. You are not buying privilege of staying at a DVC resort, you are an owner of a timeshare.

you even get a property deed

 

[Pioneer Hall]

Very true. Also "owning" DVC membership doesn't mean that you "own" any property at all. You just own the privilege of staying at a DVC resort.

You do own a deeded portion of the property as others have said. The key difference between Disney and other timeshares is that when you sign the contract with Disney you agree to revert that deed to them on whatever the end date is. It is your property until then at which point it will automatically become Disney's.

 

[unkadug]

You do own a deeded portion of the property as others have said. The key difference between Disney and other timeshares is that when you sign the contract with Disney you agree to revert that deed to them on whatever the end date is. It is your property until then at which point it will automatically become Disney's.

Then if you TRULY own the property then you could also be considered a Florida resident...which you cannot do.

 

[dcibrando]

Then if you TRULY own the property then you could also be considered a Florida resident...which you cannot do.

Maybe that's why we get out discount on annual passes...same as Florida residents

 

[Hakunamatata]

If I remember correctly, you own an interest (portion) of a unit (room) and not the land that it's on.

 

[tjkraz]

Then if you TRULY own the property then you could also be considered a Florida resident...which you cannot do.

The State of Florida does not grant residency to timeshare owners. That is true of all timeshares...not just DVC.

Additionally, DVC has language in its contracts stating that DVC owners are exempted from any perks offered to FL residents. So even if the FL laws were to change (unlikely), Disney has already informed DVC owners that they will not qualify for FL resident perks.

As the other posters stated, a Disney Vacation Club contract is a deeded real estate holding.

 

[Pioneer Hall]

The State of Florida does not grant residency to timeshare owners. That is true of all timeshares...not just DVC.

Additionally, DVC has language in its contracts stating that DVC owners are exempted from any perks offered to FL residents. So even if the FL laws were to change (unlikely), Disney has already informed DVC owners that they will not qualify for FL resident perks.

As the other posters stated, a Disney Vacation Club contract is a deeded real estate holding.

Plus, I believe residency laws require that you actually inhabit that space for a certain amount of time in order to claim that you live there. I come from the land of retired snow birds who live (or at least claim to and can reasonably back it up) in FL for 6 months and 1 day. This is how they are able to claim that they are FL residents who just spend far too much time in NJ during the summer months. If they lived in FL for any less than that period of time FL wouldn't allow them to consider themselves residents either.

 

[DABIGCHEEZ]

Could people please be polite? If threads could not repeat topics discussed in the past, the forum would be pretty empty. Plus, there is a good chance that many people reading a thread were not here on the forum a year ago, so it's new to them. Trust me, after a while almost everything gets repeated, and I do sometimes think to myself "here we go again" but I also realize that what is old hat to me might be brand new to someone else.

I could see complaining if a topic was already discussed within the last few weeks, but a year? No. Even if it is the same poster with an update.

But I also agree that complaining at the time is the best way to handle things, even if you don't get an instant response. As others have said, if the front desk, and customer relations, start getting a lot of complaints something might be done. Or not, or you might just find that the cure is worse than the disease. :lookaroun

Maybe the fellow Moderator that was the first to reply should've followed this advise, no? :shrug:

Posters on this site have all too often jumped on an OP for repeating something, or God forbid saying something negative about their beloved WDW. Just telling it like I have seen it.

 

[Phonedave]

Just to be a noodge, even though Saratoga Springs is "a fully DVC owned resort," Disney owns some of the DVC. They buy (or keep, however you want to look at it) a percentage of points at each DVC resort, in order to rent them out for cash, or to block off a few at a time for renovations, stuff like that. So SSR is not solely owned by DVC members, per se.

DVC owns part of the DVC, not The Disney Company. The DVC is of course a wholly owned subsidiary.

DVC hold points in breakage (thats what its called) as required by law.

Disney Transportation supplies busses.

There would be a cross departmental charge twixt the two.

I just love corporate finanace.

Besides not knowing the agreement between DVC, Disney at Disney transportation, Disney could always argue something like "the lease for the land necessary to create Saratoga had certain stipulations to benefit the Disney corp, like the right to own and/or manage the food courts and restaurants and gift shops, the right to have staff photographers work in-house for photo packages...and we control how Disney transportation is used."

That could be. And I do believe that the DVC leases back the space for the restaruants to Food and Beverage.

-dave