Primeval Whirl NOT Whirling....

[Disneynutcase]

To all of you living in denial and who think you are smarter than those of us who had non-spinning cars, read the posts about the non-spin experiences. I think there is enough evidence to support that the ride's sporatic lack of nicely spinning cars is evident.

A CM who works on the ride told me that all the cars don't spin. I rode in one that didn't spin. Enough said.

As far as all this weight distribution crapola, sheer logic of physics on any wild mouse type coaster forces all riders in the car to shift their weight into the sudden whip-like turns that they are being slammed into whether they want to shift their weight that way or not. And I'm saying that with that kind of force alone, we should've spun.

As far as our collective size effecting the ride, that's complete BS. The people in the car ahead of us were in the 250+ range--in other words, total porkers, okay? Their car was spinning all over the place.

In fact, next time you go to AK, if this problem is still evident, stand back and watch the ride for about five minutes. You'll see that some cars do the tilt-a-whirl really well, and it isn't because people are really throwing their weight around to get it to spin. It's mostly the basic engineering of the ride that causes the cars to do that.

Plain and simple--some cars just don't spin. And no explanation has yet to be given for why, which is totally indicative that something is indeed wrong. I'd say if I had to guess it's another "Pressler went cheap" move and some of the cars (just like the ones he bought for Rocket Rods out in California) are malfunctioning. Otherwise wouldn't a CM ride loader ask a rider, "spinning or non-spinning?"

 

[Disney2002]

I don't know which ghetto university you attended, but in the land of higher-education they teach us that weight distribution plays a tremendous role in situations like these.

 

[Disneynutcase]

Dear Disney 2002. Once again I say to you, read the posts. Some cars aren't spinning. People are complaining because their bodies ache from being violently slammed around. And by design, if this is a tilt a whirl, then the cars should be giving a little and they are not.

Stop insulting those of us who experienced this ride in such a dissappointing fashion. Because plain and simply, you're right about the weight distribution--as in, "Duh!"--but the wild mouse track layout should also play a huge factor. We were slammed around and the car never gave an inch, totally locked into place for the whole ride.

Again, if you read other posts on this thread, you'll see that this is what's randomly happening to a number of people.

Regarding your professorial know it all attitude, get over yourself. You don't really know what you're even commenting on because this strange ride phenomenon didn't happen to you.

 

[Mr. Toad]

Well not only did our car spin but as I watched the ride I noticed most of the cars spinning (this would be the left track as you face the ride). The ride was shut down when we were there 2 days prior so maybe they were fixing something.

 

[Nala59]

... haven't been on it yet... looking forward to it in July... but I am a rollercoaster LOVER! Is it anything like a rollercoaster, or is it just a glorified carnival ride?

... I'll have to remember to put big ol' fat me opposite my thin/ svelte/ beautiful daughter... < for a better ride... :dazzle:

 

[agdbeanie]

Originally posted by Disney2002
I don't know which ghetto university you attended, but in the land of higher-education they teach us that weight distribution plays a tremendous role in situations like these.

Um, that kind of rude behavior is not needed in these forums. If you have a problem with what people are writing or if you think they are wrong, there are other ways of expressing that rather than being rude and insulting about their school. Thank you.

BTW---I never saw a class entilted Roller Coaster 101 in my "land of higher-education."

 

[ToTBellHop]

well...weight distribution would affect spinning...basically, if you have more weight on one side, that will counter the car's momentum and the centripetal velocity around half the turns, whereas it will aid it going around the other turns. This would cause, for example, you to spin more going around left turns and less on right turns. If, however, weight is evenly distributed, you tend to neither help nor counter the spinning effect, so you won't ever spin as fast as people in a car of uneven weight distribution. By the way, the spinning actually makes portions of this ride less painful. Toward the end of the coaster, naturally, you are at higher speeds than the top, therefore making the turns more painful in a traditional, stationary train. But, when the car spins, you weight is sent in all directions--->less pain. As for the non-spinning cars, this would not be as easy to fix as you may think. They cannot pick up the cars and move them every time they can't find someone who wants to be in a stationary car. They have to fill the cars or the ride stops (or people complain about sending empty cars out of the station). So they fill all the cars. The only way they could ask you what you want would be to install a computer in every car that would allow it to switch between spinning and not spinning. Indeed, this was in the original plans for this attraction...remember..."rider-controlled spinning"...sadly, that idea was cut...it woulda been nice. Perhaps as this attraction gains popularity, they can open a third line for people that want to ride in the non-spinning cars...kinda like Test Track's Stag Line.

 

[Pioneer Hall]

Some cars are meant to be stationary and some are free spinning. It isn't a guarantee as to which one you get (though you should be able to choose)

 

[pax_65]

Some Of You Don't Understand

With all respect, those who say you need to "lean" to get the cars spinning do not understand the experience some of us had on this ride.

When the car hits the turns at speed, the car turns with the track. Everyone in the car is thrown (rather violently) into the turn. The car does not spin. Not even a little bit. As someone else said, it feels like the car is welded fast.

Imagine running fast and throwing yourself against a brick wall. The wall does not move. That's similar to what it felt like on this ride.

Something is wrong with the ride. Hopefully they fix it soon...

Jon

 

[degunter]

Empty Cars

If weight distribution had anything to do with it, then why are the empty cars spinning like crazy. I have been there twice and have seen completely empty cars on the track spinning and some empty cars not. I guess it is just bad luck they let us ride a second time, put us into one of the next cars and that one did not spin either.

When the cars are suppose to start spinning, you can see the little lever or switch on the track that "unlocks" or activates the spinning.

I just think they need to let people know you may not spin and on top of that, let people know how much more rough it is.

I rode Mulloholland Madness at Disney's California Adventure and that was not nearly as rough, and I believe I remember hearing they closed that ride sometime after I rode it to "soften it up" because people were getting hurt.

I still like it and will try it next time too I'm sure....

 

[Invero]

I rode this ride about a month ago, during a soft opening...

For the first part of the ride... some folks were spinning... my car was not. When we went over the hairpin corners, the car stayed tight, as if it was locked down. No amount of weight distribution would have gotten that thing spinning. (By the way... it was myself, another adult on one side, and two lil girls on the other side... total un-evenness, so by what some are saying, I should have been spinning). I might add, my rib cage ached from getting slammed into the side of the ride vehicle.

Now... at first I thought I got one of the non-spinning cars. But then, on some turns, we started to spin, and I started to like the ride. Then it locked down again, and I started to get slammed, and my rib cage started to hurt again. That's when I vowed never to ride on it again.

This is my thoughts... Make all cars free-spinning vehicles. This way, when they hit the turns, we won't get slammed... For those guests who don't want to spin... sorry to be rude... but don't ride it then... the spinning is the whole point of the ride. Without the spinning... it's boring... and it HURTS.