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Price increase for lockers, wheelchair and ECV rentals
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EPCOT Explorer
New Member
More Nickel and Diming! Hoooray!:lookaroun
Figment632
New Member
Yea I heard that they are going to start charging by the pound for the scooters.
Runs quickly.
Runs quickly.
MissM
Well-Known Member
My guess is that they're taking advantage of two things by upping the price now: busy season of the holidays and the start of cooler weather in Florida. A lot of people - myself included sometimes - will rent a locker to stuff a sweater or light jacket of some sort for after sundown when it gets cooler. No one wants to carry it around all day so you put it in a locker. I'm guessing they figure now's the perfect time to start charging people more for the privilege of doing just that.
DisneyLeo18
Active Member
I never used a locker before, what was the previous price?
I'm actually shocked people use them still (besides water parks). I see a lot of people carrying bags around the park or using the stroller to carry items. For $9 I say boycott these things any way you can, doesn't seem worth it at all.
I'm actually shocked people use them still (besides water parks). I see a lot of people carrying bags around the park or using the stroller to carry items. For $9 I say boycott these things any way you can, doesn't seem worth it at all.
Mystic
Well-Known Member
I'm a perfectly healthy person who just happens to have stress fractures in her leg and therefore is stuck wearing a cast on her leg. Does that mean I should be stuck walking around on it?
dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
The one time I used one it was due to having the ToT 13k race that evening. I didn't want to carry my running stuff around the parks with me, in addition to my normal camera stuff. So I dumped it in a locker. Other than stuff like that there isn't much reason. Most purchases will be delivered to the front or your hotel for you, and leaving most other stuff in a locker defeats the point of bringing it. Unless you dump your picnic lunch in a locker.
I do not want to comment on the wheelchairs, but, in regard to the locker and the parking increases, a pretty basic rule of econ/tax policy applies. Subsidize behaviors you want to encourage, tax behaviors you want to discourage.
Disney runs buses, monorails, and boats to their parks. They would prefer customers use these expensive modes of transit rather than drive their cars. There is no reason for them to waste money on public and private transit infrastructure. They are not a municipality. Also, the high parking fee brings the price of staying off-site and on-site closer to equilibrium. Without seeing any numbers, it seems reasonable to intuit that a certain population on the margin will choose to move to staying on property. As long as the value of those who choose to stay on-site because of extra costs is greater than the value lost from people who are dissuaded, it is a good business decision. Plus, it jives with their environmental initiative.
On lockers, Disney likely faces very little overhead for the lockers. They are cheap to maintain/replace and generate large returns when used. Someone's joke about Windex, however, is not far off. What is not seen is the added cost of having lockers to things like security. If people need space to store their stuff they bring in the park, they are likely bringing too much stuff. Excess stuff slows down security checks and makes it easier for weapons, liquor, etc to slip through. In the very busiest times, even a two second delay for each person moving through security could cripple service flow for the entire day (see queing models).
While some see this as nickel and diming, I can see the business prospective. If people freak out about reductions in service (ie ripping out the lockers) then another approach is to price them out of a behavior. Have the customer ask if it is worth $9 to them to be able to bring extra coats, ubrellas, etc rather than the company take away the storage option. Some people will decide to pay because money is no object or they see the value while others will say let's risk it and if we get too cold I will run to the car or just buy a new sweatshirt.
You make these types of decisions all the time in the world. Whether you buy off brand poptarts or brand name catchup, you decided if a service was worth the price. Making these choices in the World are no different.... And if you are honest with yourself, the "losing the magic" arguement does not work here either, unless the lockers at DHS actually led to Narnia or Fraggle Rock or something.
Disney runs buses, monorails, and boats to their parks. They would prefer customers use these expensive modes of transit rather than drive their cars. There is no reason for them to waste money on public and private transit infrastructure. They are not a municipality. Also, the high parking fee brings the price of staying off-site and on-site closer to equilibrium. Without seeing any numbers, it seems reasonable to intuit that a certain population on the margin will choose to move to staying on property. As long as the value of those who choose to stay on-site because of extra costs is greater than the value lost from people who are dissuaded, it is a good business decision. Plus, it jives with their environmental initiative.
On lockers, Disney likely faces very little overhead for the lockers. They are cheap to maintain/replace and generate large returns when used. Someone's joke about Windex, however, is not far off. What is not seen is the added cost of having lockers to things like security. If people need space to store their stuff they bring in the park, they are likely bringing too much stuff. Excess stuff slows down security checks and makes it easier for weapons, liquor, etc to slip through. In the very busiest times, even a two second delay for each person moving through security could cripple service flow for the entire day (see queing models).
While some see this as nickel and diming, I can see the business prospective. If people freak out about reductions in service (ie ripping out the lockers) then another approach is to price them out of a behavior. Have the customer ask if it is worth $9 to them to be able to bring extra coats, ubrellas, etc rather than the company take away the storage option. Some people will decide to pay because money is no object or they see the value while others will say let's risk it and if we get too cold I will run to the car or just buy a new sweatshirt.
You make these types of decisions all the time in the world. Whether you buy off brand poptarts or brand name catchup, you decided if a service was worth the price. Making these choices in the World are no different.... And if you are honest with yourself, the "losing the magic" arguement does not work here either, unless the lockers at DHS actually led to Narnia or Fraggle Rock or something.
bugsbunny
Well-Known Member
:ROFLOL:
WDW could build one new E ticket ride a year if that happened! In all seriousness, I don't recall EVER seeing anyone that I could describe as a "healthy weight" that was driving a scooter. It's either people who hit age 50 and said "That's it, I'm not walking anymore" or people that are wider than they are tall and "have bad knees". :animwink:
Sure there are legitimate ailments that require someone to use a scooter. A friend of mine is going and his wife's back is so bad she is going on permanent disability. But it would seem 90% of the people in scooters are overweight. And I'm not talking a heavy, I mean obsese. It's a shame really.
CAPTAIN HOOK
Well-Known Member
Somebody run up to the ivory tower where WDW have their command centre - knock very loudly and inform them there's a worldwide recession going on.
Uncle Lupe
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archangel2790
Member
Where's the little popcorn guy when ya need him? LOL
Let's see just how many slams get in here about overweight people in ECV's before it gets closed...
:wave:
Let's see just how many slams get in here about overweight people in ECV's before it gets closed...
:wave:
mickeysaver
Well-Known Member
Yes, I am obese and to look at me, you would never know the reason why I use an ECV. I had a nasty infection in my left leg about 2 years ago that almost killed me. I have a slightly darkened are on that leg, but other than a usually only slightly larger than the right leg appearance, you would look at me on a scooter and tell yourself that "the fat chick should be walkin'!" Oh how I wish that I could.
I have a bunch of scar tissue in the leg that causes me major circulation problems when I am on my feet for too long. An hour on my feet at Walmart and I am miserable, so just imagine how bad I would feel just getting into a park from the busses.
Not every fat person is on a scooter because of their weight. Consider the fact that there are lots of people out there with hidden medical issues, like MS, Lupus, Fibromyalgia, and other illnesses that need those devices too.
And finally, if you are at WDW, you are there to have a good time. Quit being petty and just focus on your day. At least your view is going to be better than mine. I get quite tired of looking at butts all day.
I have a bunch of scar tissue in the leg that causes me major circulation problems when I am on my feet for too long. An hour on my feet at Walmart and I am miserable, so just imagine how bad I would feel just getting into a park from the busses.
Not every fat person is on a scooter because of their weight. Consider the fact that there are lots of people out there with hidden medical issues, like MS, Lupus, Fibromyalgia, and other illnesses that need those devices too.
And finally, if you are at WDW, you are there to have a good time. Quit being petty and just focus on your day. At least your view is going to be better than mine. I get quite tired of looking at butts all day.
OnWithTheShow
Member
Isnt this the 2nd increase this year?
Mystic
Well-Known Member
Yes it is the second increase this year. It was put up earlier in the year because it went up before I went in June and now it's going up before I go in December.