Andrew25
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Yes, however a lot of those guests at the parks right now are Florida Residents with all of the discounts being offered.
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Price hike coming 10/9
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GhostHost1000
Premium Member
disney surveys a lot of people, but I've always found some of the questions or answers worded oddly, so my interpretation is they can make the survey results look however they need
What Disney is saying about it slowing down is that it's a "bulk-average" decline in attendance and revenue. Yes, there are busy days and slow days but when aggregated "together" over 1 month, 6 months or a year? The numbers falling. This is not just us on forums that say that. Disney has warned it's investors VERY clearly that it IS happening and it WILL affect their books negatively.
Is Disney lying about this? Well? maybe?...but I don't see why they would lie about it. It's embarrassing to them.
Remember, there is so much money involved that just a simple 10% decline translates to HUGE money for Disney. A 20% decline would be very worrisome. If 1 in 5 people disappeared? You might not notice that as a guest but that's a gigantic hit to the revenue.
I 100% agree with you. It's almost as though they don't want to find out what you "really" think? They would rather look away put their fingers in their ears and pretend you were super-duper happy?
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
They wouldn't bother to collect the data in the first place if they didn't want to glean anything from it.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
oh I'm sure they get something from it... bonuses for a job well done because the surveys are so positive!
Ayla
Well-Known Member
Correct. They spend a ton of money on making sure the questions are asked so they get the results they want.
LSLS
Well-Known Member
Everyone talked about it because the CEO said crowds were down. Lines do not indicate how crowded the parks are. For reference, at MK, Crowds are 6% higher than they were all the way back in 2006. Comparing to 2015, crowds are down 13.4%, but the wait time for a selection of rides (7 Dwarf, Pan, Jungle, Pooh, Pirates, and Mansion) are up 8%, with two lines down (Pooh at 18% and 7 Dwarfs at 4%), and the rest up (Mansion up 42%, Pirates 13%, Jungle 37.5%, and Pan 1%). So yes, crowds are down, price is up, and lines are worse.
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
The vast majority of the questions are framed using industry standards, which you can certainly disagree with methodologically (and many do), but a good 90% or more of any survey I’ve ever been sent from them is straightforward. That is not to say bias has not been or cannot be introduced, particularly by a leader who is held to a specific metric and has undue sway over someone in data and analytics for whatever reason, but that doesn’t seem to be the case with the frequency people here suggest.
Disney's corporate culture strongly,...very, VERY STYRONGLY encourages "positive" thinking. The last think anybody want's to do is go into a serious meeting and stand up to tell everybody there:
"Folks...sorry, I mean,..."friends"...we have a serious problem on our hands....."
You do that and everybody at the meeting table will gasp. Nobody want's to be "that" guy at Disney. You want to be the person that gets up and says "Everything is looking swell!"
It's a wild thing to say but not only does Disney have cult-like fans...they also have a cult-like INTERNAL company culture.
Everything is fine at Disney...and DONT YOU DARE SAY OTHERWIZE! ;-)
Chi84
Premium Member
Wait, we‘re in a cult?
No,..but can be "cult-like" ;-)
We are all fans of Disney....right?
The word "fan" comes from "fanatic":
fa·nat·ic
/fəˈnadik/
noun
A person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause.
"religious fanatics"
bmr1591
Well-Known Member
You don't have to pay to park at any hotel on property.
John park hopper
Well-Known Member
I'M ON BOARD
Chi84
Premium Member
It's snowballing! I'll be there in a couple of weeks so I can report on the effect!
Raineman
Well-Known Member
Any negativity towards Disney on here should be fairly tempered-after all, theme park vacations are not a necessity. It should be no more than a mild frustration, and, to me, that's all I feel. But when food prices, gas prices, cost of utilities, etc continue to skyrocket thanks to decisions made by the corporations that sell us these things, then I have every right to be very negative about it. I can always just stop going to WDW-I can't stop buying groceries and heating my home. Here in Canada, there is a large corporation that owns quite a few of the major grocery store chains, and I had an argument with a family member over their exponentially increasing prices in the last 4 years. He said that they are just trying to cover inflation and the money lost during COVID. I told him to look at the data, and see that their profits have increased every year since 2020, and at a much higher rate than inflation. This is the type of pure corporate greed that makes people angry-but this type of anger should never be reserved for Disney price hikes. People here definitely need some perspective.
For me?...It's not even about the price hikes. I'll pay a TON of money for almost anything...."IF"...I feel that it's worth it. For me?...Disney has lost sooooo much of what I loved about it my entire life. It's fallen so far that I just don't feel it's worth it any longer. Epcot was my home park, the one that I spent 5 days to 1 over any other park....and they completely destroyed it. It no longer has the "life" and "soul" that it used to.
If I could wave a magic wand and restore Epcot magically for one day back to 1999-2000 and bring all the bands (Off Kilter and MoRockin') and shows and Reflections of Earth, Fountain of Nations and all the buildings and cast members back?
If I could have that amazing Millennium celebration EPCOT Center "feel" back...for only ONE single day???
I ABSOLUTELY would pay $1,000 for a ticket that day. I'd pay $50 for parking. I'd buy soda's and food at DOUBLE today's costs.
I would pay a high price because THAT would feel "worth it" to me to have THAT kind of Disney quality return for one day.
These parks now just don't feel "special" or "premium" anymore. To me, they are just not "worth it" any more.
I say this as I leave for Tokyo Disney tomorrow morning with my entire WDW 2024 budget in my pocket ready to spend to all over there next week.
If I could wave a magic wand and restore Epcot magically for one day back to 1999-2000 and bring all the bands (Off Kilter and MoRockin') and shows and Reflections of Earth, Fountain of Nations and all the buildings and cast members back?
If I could have that amazing Millennium celebration EPCOT Center "feel" back...for only ONE single day???
I ABSOLUTELY would pay $1,000 for a ticket that day. I'd pay $50 for parking. I'd buy soda's and food at DOUBLE today's costs.
I would pay a high price because THAT would feel "worth it" to me to have THAT kind of Disney quality return for one day.
These parks now just don't feel "special" or "premium" anymore. To me, they are just not "worth it" any more.
I say this as I leave for Tokyo Disney tomorrow morning with my entire WDW 2024 budget in my pocket ready to spend to all over there next week.
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WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
...Guess I'll actually be a real adult and go do literally any other vacation destination BUT Disney lol. I believe once my annual pass expires in June, I'm done. That's it for me.
erasure fan1
Well-Known Member
Ding, ding, ding!!!
That's what I've been saying for years now. I'm fine with prices going up. I'm not fine with prices going up and quality going down. It's as simple as that
Chi84
Premium Member
Because people who still choose Disney are not "real adults?" Or do you think theme park vacations are more for kids?